Timing belt tool

[motoman358]

Where can I get the timing belt tool for tensioning the idler pulley? If anyine has a link it would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[02BLUR]

I think they have it:
http://www.miller.spx.com/

 

[wibblersnatch]

If you can't find one theres a write up on how to make one with the battery hold down bolt. > http://vfaq.com/mods/timingbeltNOTE1.html

 

[jking29]

I bought mine off of ebay for like $15. It is a Miller.

Heres a link to another auction by the same guy:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MITS...ryZ43991QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[steve]

Where can I get the timing belt tool for tensioning the idler pulley? If anyine has a link it would be appreciated. Thanks.

Miller SPX sells both the threaded rod for compressing the auto-tensioner and the tool for rotating the tensioner pulley.

I assumed from what you asked that you were looking for the pulley tool.

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You can also buy it from 3SX http://www.3sxperformance.com/tools.asp but their shipping charges are high.

Steve

 

[motoman358]

The thing in the last picture is what i was looking for, I found one on ebay for 24 shipped.

 

[navyguy07]

Is the tool for rotating the tensioner pulley a must to do this job? I bought the compressing tool off of Ebay. The reason I am asking is I am about to brave this with a friend of mine on my '98 GSX here in a few weeks. I didn't see it mentioned in the VFAQ.

 

[oldman]

Is the tool for rotating the tensioner pulley a must to do this job? I bought the compressing tool off of Ebay. The reason I am asking is I am about to brave this with a friend of mine on my '98 GSX here in a few weeks. I didn't see it mentioned in the VFAQ.

Which article were you reading?

2G timing belt vfaq.

Step #35, special tool MD998767.

 

[navyguy07]

Thanks for clarification on that. I will order it this week. I thought that was in reference to the tensioner bolt. This is going to be my first attempt at this, but my friend has done belts on other cars before. I just want to get some expierence. Thanks once again.

 

[spawn7037]

Do you think it would be possible to get away with using a snap ring pliers? It looks like it might work but I was wondering if anyone had tried it.

 

[zatomz]

I tried and the first set I used broke off one of the ends. then I tried a thicker set but It was a lot harder for me than using just a regular needle nose pliers, which is what I ended up doing. Oh yea, I also bought 5 feet of the threaded rod needed because that was the least they would sell me (I'll never have to ask for the threaded rod again, I have plenty)

 

[Talon_BodyMan]

When I did my timing belt I used a pick with a 90 degree bend in it to rotate the tentionar pulley. Worked pretty well.

 

[BUCK]

Is the tool for rotating the tensioner pulley a must to do this job? I bought the compressing tool off of Ebay. The reason I am asking is I am about to brave this with a friend of mine on my '98 GSX here in a few weeks. I didn't see it mentioned in the VFAQ.

Do you think it would be possible to get away with using a snap ring pliers? It looks like it might work but I was wondering if anyone had tried it.

A long, strong SQUARE shanked Screwdriver leveraged off one of the Water Pump Fasteners is what I prefer to Tension the Idler Pulley - I'm SURE someone has tried to use Snap Ring Pliers but it is a HEFTY LOAD & I'm not so sure the Pliers will take it - The 8MM Allthread is NOT optional BTW.

 

[steve]

The 8MM Allthread is NOT optional BTW.

Sure it is. What do you need it for?

 

[Daveed]

I used the "thread" the battery hold down bolt method. Didn't work too well. It was pretty hard to turn cause the threads didn't match up very well. The bolt diameter simply isn't big enough and you get squared off threads which don't work that great.
The 8mmX1.25 threaded rod I bought from the fastener store threads in there perfectly with no effort. I should have gone and spent the $3 for the threaded rod to begin with.

EDIT: Steve, I'm gonna guess that Buck means that the 8mm allthread is what should be used for the job. Right Buck?

 

[Boost92awd]

Miller SPX sells both the threaded rod for compressing the auto-tensioner and the tool for rotating the tensioner pulley.

I assumed from what you asked that you were looking for the pulley tool.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You can also buy it from 3SX http://www.3sxperformance.com/tools.asp but their shipping charges are high.

Steve

Is this the only special tool I will need to do a timing belt on a 1G?? Any other tools I might need? Also how long did it take you to do your timing belt?

 

[Splitpi]

I bought my tools from chbuzz on ebay eBay My World - chbuzz. Fast shipping and combined shipping costs and refunded me the extra shipping.

He has the miller pulley tensioner tool, the threaded hydraulic tensioner compression rod and a Crank pulley hold down tool. If he doesn't have them listed, just PM him and he'll have it up within an hour for you to purchase.

 

[steve]

Is this the only special tool I will need to do a timing belt on a 1G??
Any other tools I might need?
Also how long did it take you to do your timing belt?

People have done the job without any of the special tools but they have to improvise their replacements. On my first TB replacement I made both the threaded rod to compress the auto-tensioner and the pulley tool and got the job done but I went out and picked up the pulley tool right afterward. I wasn't going to do another without it.
The threaded rod is unnecessary if your going to be replacing the auto-tensioner. You can unbolt the original without compressing it and the new one comes compressed with the retaining pin installed. If you mess up you can recompress in a vice or by applying more tension with the pulley tool to tighten up the clearance.

You need a reasonable tool kit and jacks to hold the engine up while the front mount is disconnected. The clearance between the engine and frame rails is tight and you may have to get creative to fine room to reach bolts.

First time most of a day. You'll get the belt on wrong a few times and then a few more trys getting the pre-load right on the tensioner.

 

[Boost92awd]

Alright thanks for the help steve. On average how long does it take to do a TB/water pump service? As this is my first time, but I will also have a certified mechanic helping me.

 

[steve]

The water pump adds about 30 mins to the job and that includes spending time cleaning the corrosion off the o-ring seal area of the water pipe and a few cigarette breaks while you mop up the water off the floor.
The longest part of doing the water pump when you are already doing the TB is scraping off the old gasket.

 

[Splitpi]

It took my slow arse with help the first time about 9 hours to do the 60k maintance.

The second time I did it in about 6 hours by myself for just the TB/Waterpump. But the second time i actually had the miller tools.... I think they were very benefitial.

 

[Boost92awd]

Alright thats what I was think about 5-6 hours. Hopefully maybe alittle shorter as I'l be doing this at a shop so I'l have all the tools and a lift.