The Official "What's this DSM worth?" Thread

[zipacna]

ask the guy if he swaped a rebuilt 6 bolt engine in there or did he just get it rebuilt as a 7 bolt, also ask if the crankshaft is new or did it get magnafluxed. get details about the rebuilt. check the wiring because you never know if the rebuild was done by a '' butcher ''

if your looking to get a 16b turbo, you will need to upgrade your injectors,fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator. your exhaust should be ok since its 3 inch...thats good enought!

but yeah i would mainly check the wiring and the timing belt...see if its loose on there...i would not think so since the engine has 40k. ask him if he also changed the balance shaft belt, or if he eliminated it.

Didn't the 92 Talon only come with the 6 bolt?

 

[ian_maham]

i drove it and it drove really good and felt nice and strong, it idles well and has no leaks.

I just got my 95 tsi awd about 2 months ago. It drove amazingly good..... now 2 months later my 1st gear syncro is out(not a too big of a deal), its been jumping and jerking like crazy(also has a bad idle) so now I'm in the middle of replacing the fuel filter(hope that does the trick).

As stated above those are the common things to look for, but even if it runs great don't get your hopes up. you may end up fixing constant little problems. BUT HEY!!! the first month was f****ing fun

 

[Flores45]

does the tsi motor have the crank walk issue? im not sure what motor the guy swapped into it.

 

[KaLo_o]

Didn't the 92 Talon only come with the 6 bolt?

1992 has some 7 bolt engines, it depends on what month it was built.

cars produced between March, 1989 and the third week of April, 1992 have 6-bolt motors; May, 1992 to the first week of May, 1994 have 7-bolt motors.

 

[KaLo_o]

crankwalk is a 95 and up issue

Crankwalk is a 7 bolt engine issue...not a 95 and up issue, get informed before stating anything.

your car can be a 1990 tsi with a swapped 7 bolt engine in it..and you can end up with crankwalk issues. however.. any engine can crankwalk but the 7 bolt engines are known to crankwalk a lot more often than the 6 bolt ones.

usually when dsm owners swap an engine, they get a 6 bolt one so they dont have to worry about crankwalk. you can also buy a brand new 7 bolt crankshaft, then you dont have to worry about crankwalk at all as long as you do your regular maintenance and treat it good. Crankwalk is also overrated..those 7 bolt cranks are pretty good if you take care of it....like dont drop the clutch and lunch the #### out of it everyday.

 

[Torch1]

Definitely get it.

 

[HIGHPSI4]

99% of crankwalk failures occur on the second gen 7 bolt. Get your facts right. The 1G block was machined differently than the 2G. It was that machining method and stuck open oil squirters that allowed the bulk of the failures. I have seen one 6 bolt turbo block that walked so it can happen to any engine.

 

[KaLo_o]

please post a link where or a site where i can find this information, i have never heard of that.

 

[boostedawd42]

I had a similar offer and turned it down. Personally I need time to make a car purchase and most sellers just want money and say goodbye. If thats the case I walk everytime

 

[KaLo_o]

i think a clean talon with 40k motor and new act clutch with 3 inch exhaust for 2500 is a good deal. People need money these days, you can flash 2 grand in his face. i woulnt be worried.

 

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

Crankwalk is a 7 bolt engine issue...not a 95 and up issue, get informed before stating anything.

your car can be a 1990 tsi with a swapped 7 bolt engine in it..and you can end up with crankwalk issues. however.. any engine can crankwalk but the 7 bolt engines are known to crankwalk a lot more often than the 6 bolt ones.

usually when dsm owners swap an engine, they get a 6 bolt one so they dont have to worry about crankwalk. you can also buy a brand new 7 bolt crankshaft, then you dont have to worry about crankwalk at all as long as you do your regular maintenance and treat it good. Crankwalk is also overrated..those 7 bolt cranks are pretty good if you take care of it....like dont drop the clutch and lunch the #### out of it everyday.

If it was 7-bolt issue then evo 8's(and other newer cars) would get crankwalk. ONLY 2g's are prone to getting but it can happen to any car(i personally helped swap a motor on a mustang that had it, and that car had only 2300 miles). Any real dsmer knows how bad crankwalk is OVERRATED. There are very little people that got it. If you have a 2g and are worried about crankwalk sell your car. There is no proof other than bad bearings. Rebuild your 7-bolt the RIGHT way and you will NEVER get it.

 

[swarm]

a rebuild would be a nice start

me? why?

 

[KaLo_o]

where are you going with your mustang and '' other newer cars'' we are on a dsm site here, and i am not talking about general 7 bolt engines. i am posting on a dsm site. i know 3 dsmers here that had crankwalk happen to them on a 1g 7 bolt. the rest of what you posted you jsut repeated some facts that i have posted. also crankwalk happened to me 3 years ago on my first dsm. it was a 1993. got my timing belt and balance shaft belt replaced, then i got a better clutch and crankwalk happened. i also stated taht crankwalk is overrated....read my thread again man

 

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

where are you going with your mustang and '' other newer cars'' we are on a dsm site here, and i am not talking about general 7 bolt engines. i am posting on a dsm site. i know 3 dsmers here that had crankwalk happen to them on a 1g 7 bolt. the rest of what you posted you jsut repeated some facts that i have posted. also crankwalk happened to me 3 years ago on my first dsm. it was a 1993. got my timing belt and balance shaft belt replaced, then i got a better clutch and crankwalk happened.

Thrust bearing failure happens to ANYTHING. Thrust bearing failure happen to me, and i know it was thrust bearing failure because i took out the the bearing out myself only to see the sidewalls where in the oil pan and the rest of the bearing was tore up. You said it can happen to 7-bolt's and any 4g63 after 92.5 is a 7-bolt. As for the dsmers you know they probably never knew what was wrong with their car and immediately blamed it on thrust bearing failure. If you got it again then you obviously didn't know what you were doing.

You say its overrated but then give many examples of people that got it, how does that go about. You say all 7-bolt's get it but its a newbie known fact that only 2g's are prone.

 

[KaLo_o]

if it was only the 2g engines that were prone...then tell me why people with 2g's want the 6 bolt engine insted of a 1g 7 bolt engine ( they are cheeper to get ). and tell me why 1g dsmers with a 7 bolt hunt for 6 bolt engines too...

also i would like a link that point out a fact that its only the 2g's that are prone to crankwalk. most people think its only the 2g's that have 7 bolt cranks...and that is why they think its the 2's that are prone to crankwalk.

post me some written data

crankwalk is overrated yes...but i am giving you examples that its not just the 2g's that are prone...its the 7 bolt engines that have more of a risk.

 

[MY1GDSM]

Jeez... like said above any motor can crankwalk...
the reason dsm have a name for it is that the 95-97 cranks where not machined corectly...
To the OP
40K on it? I say Buy it

Edit: wait your local, don't buy it I'm going to ...

 

[stuntboy43]

Check turbo for shaft play. 40k on motor ### about tranny? Does tranny grind under a heavy load? How hard did you run it test driving it. Most people get upset if you run the car hard while test driving it, but you have to drive it like your goin to. check out the guys other cars (at a glance) see how well he takes care of them. Anybody can clean a car up and change the oil to sell it, that doesnt mean it was taken care of.

 

[2gawdtsi]

Just make sure everything is in spec and looks good. If it does, go for it sounds nice to me.

 

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

if it was only the 2g engines that were prone...then tell me why people with 2g's want the 6 bolt engine insted of a 1g 7 bolt engine ( they are cheeper to get ). and tell me why 1g dsmers with a 7 bolt hunt for 6 bolt engines too...

also i would like a link that point out a fact that its only the 2g's that are prone to crankwalk. most people think its only the 2g's that have 7 bolt cranks...and that is why they think its the 2's that are prone to crankwalk.

post me some written data

Um, if a motor is cheap to find and can handle much more power, then why wouldnt you swap.

 

[Flores45]

Check turbo for shaft play. 40k on motor ### about tranny? Does tranny grind under a heavy load? How hard did you run it test driving it. Most people get upset if you run the car hard while test driving it, but you have to drive it like your goin to. check out the guys other cars (at a glance) see how well he takes care of them. Anybody can clean a car up and change the oil to sell it, that doesnt mean it was taken care of.

car drove really well when i drove it hard and handled sweet.

 

[MY1GDSM]

car drove really well when i drove it hard and handled sweet.

See post above

 

[1sloLASER]

1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T Turbo AT


you think its worth it?

 

[the_mork]

It seems like a good deal to me depending on what sort of work it needs. I would offer $1100 and see what happens.

Auto trannys are pretty simple to fix most of the time, if it is slipping or free revs when it is O/D then you need new end clutches, It costs about $100 for parts and takes about half an hour without the need to drop the transmission. Otherwise the other weak point is the valve body which is easily upgraded/replaced for about the same price but a bit more work.

Edit: BTW I love my automatic transmission, I have manual transmissions on my other vehicles and prefer it that way but for my Eclipse it is much nicer to never come out of boost and if you want to it allows you to run a larger turbo without worrying about lag. Never missing a shift and only worrying about getting on the gas when you want to go fast is nice too, and the auto trannys are stronger. If you are at all worried about not being as fast with an auto tranny then just turn the boost up a touch.

 

[1sloLASER]

thanks my fiance has always wanted a eclipse minus the auto trans and this one happens to be turbo!!!

 

[98gsxtuner]

To be honest i would Just offer 1000 and see what he says,start low and work your way up to see what he agrees on.