The Official "What's this DSM worth?" Thread

[colbyc]

i wouldnt adivise getting it

 

[kene04]

Mine's a 420a and I love it. Seriously, I've driven a couple of 4g63's and they drive the same. Main difference for me, there's a lot more aftermarket support out there for the 4g63. And, once I fixed the car after the girl I bought mine off of wrecked it, it's been really dependable. All I'm saying, I'd do it again.

 

[1slow97]

I would buy it....

 

[colbyc]

i mean if all your going for is show then by all means go for it cause you can make them engines look great , but if your planning on doin some racing , or for speed then thats not the best way to go

 

[kene04]

, the 420a is just as capable as the 4g63. If you do all of the same mods as the 4g63, it takes them just as well. Neither engine is exactly bulletproof, but built well they can be. I still don't know why everyone thinks the 4g63 is faster...

 

[colbyc]

because your not getting the same mods for a 420a , they are different , your capable of squeezing out 175 maybe 200 horses outta them

 

[kene04]

New here? Check out some of the 420a members with dynoslips...

 

[colbyc]

oh ok where do i go to too do that

 

[V8notENUF]

Speed or looks, yes you can make a 420a go fast, but the upgrades are more extensive and expensive then a 4g63. Though the 420a does have the advantage availability and pricing, and INSURANCE differences. Back when I was 18(2001), I was told it cost the same to insure my gs-t as for a porsche.

 

[1slow97]

because your not getting the same mods for a 420a , they are different , your capable of squeezing out 175 maybe 200 horses outta them

Yeah you need to read up on the 420a. you can make some good power with it...

 

[colbyc]

oh ok see i have a 4g63t and mines like fast as heck , but ive been told by many many ppl 420a's arent to good to own, cause i was fixin to get a 420a and everyone told me to do a 6 bolt swap on it, so i didnt even waste my time thats y i say this

 

[kene04]

Yes, but a gst is turbo, that puts it in another insurance class. If my insurance company knew I turboed my 420a, i'd have to pay more too. Sorry, just put in my 2 cents. I still say, if you plan on pushing big horsepower (outside of either's stock capability) to either car, you'll still have to do the same mods, which will cost about the same. I actually have gotten parts cheaper by asking for sebring parts...(Advance and Autozone)

 

[kene04]

Some recommend the 6bolt swap because the 4g63 is already more suitable for turbo. But if you're going to seriously build either one, they have similar capabilities

 

[blcknspo0ln]

You guys are all missing the point. This isn't another "should I buy an NA or turbo car" it's "should i buy THIS NA car". The car already needs body work, probably engine work, and probably a host of problems that have yet to be seen. Although $700 is a good price, you ultimately may pay several THOUSANDS just to get it to be a good looking, decently running DSM.

 

[bardabe]

You guys are all missing the point. This isn't another "should I buy an NA or turbo car" it's "should i buy THIS NA car". The car already needs body work, probably engine work, and probably a host of problems that have yet to be seen. Although $700 is a good price, you ultimately may pay several THOUSANDS just to get it to be a good looking, decently running DSM.

and you won;t make any money out of it but loose money waste of time money, and more money

 

[BoostedinSoFla]

Dude, honestly it's up to you. I'll tell you that going from your RSX to a 420A you'll definitely be disappointed with the power. I had a 95 GS (and auto at that) before my GST and the car was a true disappointment. $700 is a good price but a new motor, paint etc. could take into a couple thousand bucks and you probably wont make any money if you resell it.

 

[DreamDSM]

If you want looks then ya it sounds like a good idea. But if you`re into speed and fon then hold out for a true dsm. my buddy bought a `97 gs not knowing anything about it. He eventually sold it for $3500 and picked up a `95 gs-t for about $2000. And everyone I've ever known that had a 420a car wished that they had bought a 4g63 car. just my 2 cents.

+1

I went from a GS to a GSX and never looked back. If you're wanting to make a show car, why not start from scratch, and make it 100% yours?

 

[jed344]

yea ###### wont buy it, my rsx already has some mods 2 it and im building it for all motor drag car. i am in market around here looking for gsx i have friends with 2 gsx's and 1 with a gst and they are pritty fast i can beat one of the gsx and the gst the other gsx wastes me hes got lota stuff done ik when it was tuned he was making around 400whp thanks for the help

 

[dsm5150]

low down
91 gst.88k all original.timing belt done at 87k
rebuilt ecu
8 out of 10 on the interior
8 out of 10 on the exterior
evo mani/o2(both ported)
xero mile rebuilt/clipped/ported 14b
3" TBE from dejon
walboro 255
reverse gauges
single pod w/boost gauge
all new shifter bushings
ALL fluids changed
hatch struts are new
K&n
was going to ask 2k obo.sound fair

 

[nfernotalon]

That is very reasonable, if I could id buy it, I paid 1700 for mine with 176,xxx miles bone stock, id ask at least 3500

 

[silver bullit]

Well if the miles and condition check out and everything does not look hacked then i would say 2500-3300

 

[robbo185]

my friend wants to sell his 97 gsx with 93k miles.
It was hit on the pass side.....fixed up real well.....some frame damage from the accident. Hes not sure if its a salvage title or not. He has to check in the morning. Could you guys give a price estimate based on both scenarios have having a salvage title or not. Mods are:

EVO III Big 16g Turbo ported in and out w/ upgraded 34 mm wastegate flapper, 2500 Centerforce Dual-Friction Clutch, RRE Lightweight Flywheel, K&N Filter, Injen Intake Pipe, Greddy Type-S BOV, NGK BPR7ES Spark Plugs, NGK Spark Plugs, Custom 3inch Exhaust, High Flow Cat, HKS Turbo Timer Type-1, Walbro 190lph Fuel Pump, Boost Gauge, Auto Meter Air/Fuel Gauge, ADFX FMIC w/ custom piping, SBR J-Pipe, Apexi SAFC 2 w/ center vent bezel, RC Engineering 550 Injectors, Blitz Dual SBC Boost Controller, Aeromotive FPR w/ external fp gauge, Ported SBR Cast Manifold, Ported Intake Manifold and Elbow, 1g Throttle Body, MSD DIS-2 Ignition Module

 

[blkwidow]

Thinking about selling my DSM......for another DSM! Im throwing this idea in my head to sell my spyder for a GSX. I wanted to convert my spyder to AWD, but I don't have the time or space. So now I'm thinking about selling for a GSX. I want to know what you guys think I should try and sell for. Mods are in my profile.

Ok here are the things wrong with my car.
-The top leaks
-Passenger quarter window is off track
-Front bumper isn't painted
-Radiator support is bent which is throwing the front-end off
-Headlights are rigged
-Missing antenna
-Carpet isn't in the good of condition
-Has a salvaged title
I know there are alot of things wrong, but hey I only bought it for 500bucks.

Now on to some good things.
-Black interior
-Low mileage 6bolt longblock
-I've only put on 1500 miles on it (including a 1300 mile trip that I just took)
-New clutch
-Registration is paid up to date (600bucks!!!)
So what do you guys think? Don't be afraid to tell me the truth.

 

[intheb0x]

Hello All,
someone locally is selling a 95 eagle talon tsi awd.
he says that it runs but does not idle. this is what i was told from him
"The turbo kit needs to be re-installed in order for the car to run properly. It needs a new innercooler or the right pipeing for the front mont that I have. It is somewhat of a project car, that is very fun to drive when running properly. I have an extra set of aftermarket rims for the car, and in winter the car gets great traction. The car still runs, but doesnt idle. I have lots of extra's that I am selling with the carIf you are still interested in the car email me back to set up a time to meet.""The Talon doesnt have any oil leaks, and the turbo is in good condition, I have several turbos for the car, and I curently and tring to get the innercooler kit to seal up and run properly.""For sale 1995 Eagle Talon TSI. Aproximately 120,000 miles with AWD. 5 speed manual with short throw shifter. Clean title. Turbo upgrade to BIG 16G turbo (spare parts included). Front mount intercooler. Asking $2,500.00. Needs some tune up work. Looks good."

from what i gather is that it has a HUGE boost leak and it wont idle.
am i correct?
is it worth it for this price? im looking for a car to basically be a fast fun car thats doing to run for me. but i dont want a problematic car. ive never had a turboed car before but i have been in them, ive always been a N/A guy. what do i have to look out for with this car? what are things that could be wrong with this car?
thanks alot for the help and the warm welcome here.
i hope all is well with it and i can become a new TSI owner!

 

[Matt4g63]

It sounds like it has a horrible boost leak, well obviously if he cant keep an idle and he doesn't have the right piping.... do you have any pics or anything, im about 45 minutes away from you, i might have seen the car before or know some history behind it.