The Official "What Should I Spend Money On?" Thread [Merged 10-6]

[girlieracr4g63]

Yes I have a stock bottom end, and no I am not spraying. That is an old pic.


Wendy

 

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Oh I do hope you arent running a 6 puck with a stock flywheel. If so a new flywheel might be what you are buying in the future.


I honesty dont think that the 8k is going to help you on top end with a 16g. Just my .02

Tell your Dad I said he can pay for all the power adders he wants. However ask him is he going to pay for the repairs to the engine when you run lean and granade it?

Trust me I grew up in a V8 world. These motors can not be compared.

Wendy

ha i know these things, try telling him that . i hit fuel cut and he thinks i blew it up .

well on my launches it seems to pull till 7500 no problem, and i barely shift into 4th at the end of the track , i think if i could just rev a little higher i could go without shifting and maybe get a better time.

stock flywheel my father and i ported the head out quite a bit , and it definatly pulls at the higher rpms, im not saying it will pull to 8k but 7500 seems to cut off all the fun

 

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Yes I have a stock bottom end, and no I am not spraying. That is an old pic.


Wendy

blah i want to find someone who has a stock bottom end and is spraying , and see what they are spraying, and see what problems they have had, the 1st time at the track i had a leaky bov , stock intercooler, stock fuel pump, next time im going to have dodgegaragemodded bov (have it allready) srt-4 fmic, and evo8 fuel pump, and my own water/alky injection with a boost controlled switch set at 19psi and run 24-26psi , how do you think this sounds?

 

[girlieracr4g63]

You arent going to get any benefit from RPMs that high with that turbo, but its up to you.


Wendy

 

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You arent going to get any benefit from RPMs that high with that turbo, but its up to you.


Wendy

so by shifing into 4th a little before the finish isnt slowing me down any?

 

[girlieracr4g63]

I suggest you read some of the threads on here about your turbo, and its max potential. It would help you understand alot.


Wendy

 

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evo 3 16g = 42lbs/min i understand that, but by shifting into 4th gear near the finish line not only takes time to shift but then i have to re-spool

i understand your trying to help , and trust me you are. but im thickheaded and stubborn and i guess im going with chipped eprom and 50 shot wet kit, ill post a time slip on here when i hit it =)

 

[PieEyedPiper]

I've got it all planned out for you.

1. install your fmic.
2. install your water injection.
3. $300 of dyno time and tuning!!!

At your stage tunning your 16g with water will be your greatest benefit for the cash you ahve to spend.

Good luck with whatever you choose!

 

[girlieracr4g63]

evo 3 16g = 42lbs/min i understand that, but by shifting into 4th gear near the finish line not only takes time to shift but then i have to re-spool

i understand your trying to help , and trust me you are. but im thickheaded and stubborn and i guess im going with chipped eprom and 50 shot wet kit, ill post a time slip on here when i hit it =)

Please do post that slip..


Wendy

 

[airmail96]

I've got it all planned out for you.

1. install your fmic.
2. install your water injection.
3. $300 of dyno time and tuning!!!

At your stage tunning your 16g with water will be your greatest benefit for the cash you ahve to spend.

Good luck with whatever you choose!

I completely agree with this comment here. Dyno tuning can make a world of difference. Hell my friend with a built honda put down 406hp after a dyno tuning session when he was barely getting 320 before. And thats without water injection or nitrous. So have your dad sign you up for a dyno tuning session i think that will be the best way to get you some extra power, and it would also be cool to say you had your car tuned by such and such.

 

[Slippi84]

evo 3 16g = 42lbs/min i understand that, but by shifting into 4th gear near the finish line not only takes time to shift but then i have to re-spool

i understand your trying to help , and trust me you are. but im thickheaded and stubborn and i guess im going with chipped eprom and 50 shot wet kit, ill post a time slip on here when i hit it =)

I would love to know where your gonna get a nitrous kit and a socketed eprom with a stage 3 chip for 300 bucs....Crackbay

 

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I would love to know where your gonna get a nitrous kit and a socketed eprom with a stage 3 chip for 300 bucs....Crackbay

well, i have a 94 non turbo eprom, my 90 turbo ecu, another 90 turbo ecu , and more , jeff oberholtzer has agreed a trade in deal, plus i save on shipping he lives an hour from me, and my dad will get me nitrous no problem , he has been wanting me to get nitrous for a while now, now if i get a wet kit , will water injection be benificial? or do i need to spray less?

 

[Slippi84]

well, i have a 94 non turbo eprom, my 90 turbo ecu, another 90 turbo ecu , and more , jeff oberholtzer has agreed a trade in deal, plus i save on shipping he lives an hour from me, and my dad will get me nitrous no problem , he has been wanting me to get nitrous for a while now, now if i get a wet kit , will water injection be benificial? or do i need to spray less?

Hmm that's interesting you don't hear many people spraying and using water injection. Nitrous will have a better cooling effect than water injection by far but ofcourse you wouldn't spray 24/7 like you can with water injection.honestly I would do one or the other but that's up to you. To let you know people are wrong and somewhat right about nitrous on stock motor. It won't hurt your internals but with stock head gasket and stock head bolts you may run into trouble when trying to boost hard and spray. I would atleast get a MLS hg and arp head studs before spraying that way you have atleast a little more security.

 

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Hmm that's interesting you don't hear many people spraying and using water injection. Nitrous will have a better cooling effect than water injection by far but ofcourse you wouldn't spray 24/7 like you can with water injection.honestly I would do one or the other but that's up to you. To let you know people are wrong and somewhat right about nitrous on stock motor. It won't hurt your internals but with stock head gasket and stock head bolts you may run into trouble when trying to boost hard and spray. I would atleast get a MLS hg and arp head studs before spraying that way you have atleast a little more security.

i have a cometic mls and arp headstuds

 

[Slippi84]

i have a cometic mls and arp headstuds

oh well in that case spray the bi*** . Don't listen to your dad he'll have you sprayin like a 150 shot like "My good old camaro could take it and your cars newer come on son spray away"

I personaly wouldn't touch anything over 50shot wet but I know there is a guy on tuners sprayin 75 wet with like a t28 and hasn't blown anything yet he's a 2g gst too. It's up to you but DEF not more than a 75 shot.

 

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oh well in that case spray the bi*** . Don't listen to your dad he'll have you sprayin like a 150 shot like "My good old camaro could take it and your cars newer come on son spray away"

I personaly wouldn't touch anything over 50shot wet but I know there is a guy on tuners sprayin 75 wet with like a t28 and hasn't blown anything yet he's a 2g gst too. It's up to you but DEF not more than a 75 shot.

no more like comet , he blew it up with his blower pushing like 15 psi or something haha, rub it in his face that my car can push 30psi and his blew up at like 15 , hes got a new toy now, a fox body mustang with a chevy with like a 483?(i think thats right) hes going to spray 200-250 on it and says he is going to run 7's , claiming he will take it on the show pinks ..

i am going to spray about 50 shot, i think it should be ok, spray out of the hole and all the way down the track think i can hit 11's?

 

[ozgvr4]

Personally, i'd install the stuff you already have, then get either steel shift forks or a flywheel.

That way you can learn to get more consistent. THEN worry about getting more power.

I haven't missed a gear since installing the steel shift forks and i can change gears without loosing any noticable boost at all and getting into 4th doesn't loose me any time at all. Still the standard VR-4 flywheel though.

Mind you, i don't know how much steel shift forks are for you yanks.

 

[92lzerNA]

There is a local kid that just sold his car that ran 12.3's at 115mph on pump.
Mods:
3" turbo back
Ported manifold
FMIC-GM maf
Fuel pump- 680's
Safc
Evo3 16g- 24psi on Pump
Some weith reduction.
That time was done with a very crappy 60'. I dont know if he had a eprom ecu, but i do know that the motor was stock.

 

[Slippi84]

There is a local kid that just sold his car that ran 12.3's at 125mph on pump.
Mods:
3" turbo back
Ported manifold
FMIC-GM maf
Fuel pump- 680's
Safc
Evo3 16g- 24psi on Pump
Some weith reduction.
That time was done with a very crappy 60'. I dont know if he had a eprom ecu, but i do know that the motor was stock.

not quite sure what your implying as the poster is lookin for 11's not 12's

 

[classik]

my car is daily driven i do not wish to blow up my car, unless there is a safe linit or spray i can use, maybe a 50 shot wet?

..................Lol

 

[jking29]

Yes, but it was 12.3 @ 123 mph!!!! 123 mph easily equates to an 11 sec 1/4 with any kind of traction. My .02.

 

[92lzerNA]

not quite sure what your implying as the poster is lookin for 11's not 12's

I ment to say 12.3@115(not 125 )
If you read i said he did that with a crappy 60' and simmiliar mods to the originall poster.
So what I was trying to say is with some tunning he sould be in the 115ishmph range, and with a mph like that it should be easy to hit 11's. Look at girlieracr4g63 she is going 11.8's@113mph.

 

[turbodsm87]

my situation is that i have $1000 for my rebuild. i could buy wiesco pistons with 8.3:1 comp ration or buy 17'' tires for my car. which one would be better??? also how much hp do you get by using the higher comp ratio pistons? and are the factory pistons foreged?? thanks for all the help!!

 

[exiletalon]

my situation is that i have $1000 for my rebuild. i could buy wiesco pistons with 8.3:1 comp ration or buy 17'' tires for my car. which one would be better??? also how much hp do you get by using the higher comp ratio pistons? and are the factory pistons foreged?? thanks for all the help!!

First- Is your vehicle a 1G-2G? Also, $1000, for a rebuild is useless, you need forged rods to fit forged pistons, ( something about a floating pinion or something) also labor costs would not be in your favor, unless you are doing it yourself.
If its a 1G, then the higher compression will give you a slight gain. if its 2G you may loose some.
Personally, if its a 1G, I would just find some stock 2G pistons, they have a 8.5:1 comp. ( higher) and can be fitted onto your stock 1G rods ( with a little machining) and the gain would similiar maybe greater. It would also be cheaper, and easier. Besides, you don't really need forged internals unless your going far above 400whp. Factory pistons are not forged the way.

 

[turbodsm87]

the car is a 1g. i will be doing all of the work my self with my father who is a mechanic. the problem im runnig into on used 2g pistons is to get the rods machined will be $160 plus the cost of pistons. which is about 1/2 of new pistons