Sweetest exhuast I've ever seen!

[jott5555]

with the weight he list from a exhaust system he probally will gain it not haveing short route ic pipeing. not to mention its going to place a hot exhaust pipe right next to a ic pipe.

i think the setup is very pretty and if you pull it on a street for more than 10 seconds the po-po will probally be on you like stink on shit.. but. to each his own.. after my engine break in i will probally do soemthin simular buy out the drivers side.

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

with the weight he list from a exhaust system he probally will gain it not haveing short route ic pipeing. not to mention its going to place a hot exhaust pipe right next to a ic pipe.

i think the setup is very pretty and if you pull it on a street for more than 10 seconds the po-po will probally be on you like stink on shit.. but. to each his own.. after my engine break in i will probally do soemthin simular buy out the drivers side.

I haven't been pulled over once for my exhaust.. 1600 street driven miles.. but it has a lot to do with the area you live in and how you drive. I baby mine around, and push the clutch in rolling through intersections and the such

 

[leakyfaucet]

I'll jump on the bandwagon and say the first engine bay looks horrid. I'd love to hear how this magical turbine muffler actually makes more power than an open downpipe on a turbo car.

Actually, I'd rather see a reputable shop test it against an open downpipe. But I don't think a reputable shop would really deal with things like that. :laugh:

 

[defrag010]

Most of us have done quite well with dynomax mufflers. Vary far from ricey..Of course switching anything exhaust wise from stock is a improvement.

well that still doesn't mean the AeroTurbine is crap.

www.aero-turbine.com

 

[leakyfaucet]

well that still doesn't mean the AeroTurbine is crap.

www.aero-turbine.com

I think the "Tornado" just found its soulmate.

I looked on the site, and found a very very very fake dyno graph of a corvette that gained over 50 hp and ft lbs of torque from the mufflers. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[defrag010]

oh wait a second... are you forming an opinion on something you know nothing about?

lewroe, wkd4g63(AT dealer), and I have seen plenty of these installed on cars, and belive me, they are not gimick crap. They're not cheap either.

 

[leakyfaucet]

oh wait a second... are you forming an opinion on something you know nothing about?

Nope. I read everything on the website. Are you honestly telling me that it can make 50+ horsepower from an otherwise stock corvette? I wonder why no automotive corporate giant thought of this miraculous invention. Over 100 years and billions of dollars of research only to be surpassed by a 5 year old company. Oh well, the car companies will steal the secret soon enough. I predict every new car will have this by 2006!

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[2GturboTALON]

i have to admit it sounds mean on that corvette

 

[leakyfaucet]

i have to admit it sounds mean on that corvette

Really? I thought it sounded like ass. Did you notice the ticking? How about the fact that it supposedly dyno'd 206 hp stock? Probably running on 6 cylinders, wouldn't ya say?

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[defrag010]

Nope. I read everything on the website. Are you honestly telling me that it can make 50+ horsepower from an otherwise stock corvette? I wonder why no automotive corporate giant thought of this miraculous invention. Over 100 years and billions of dollars of research only to be surpassed by a 5 year old company. Oh well, the car companies will steal the secret soon enough. I predict every new car will have this by 2006!

:laugh: :laugh:

Just reading about something on a webpage doesn't make you familiar with it, nor does it give you experience with dealing with it.
I've seen the mufflers in person and on more than a few vehicles. I can base an opinion because I've had Personal First Hand experience with the mufflers, yet you haven't.

 

[anconover]

seeing the muffler on more than a few cars, and seeing it in person doesnt make you correct in saying its a great performing muffler either tho. Ive seen products, on alot of cars, that are total crap. The muffler IMO does look like a joke to me as well. Why not use a straight through muffler?

 

[leakyfaucet]

I can base an opinion because I've had Personal First Hand experience with the mufflers, yet you haven't.

I haven't seen you spit out any opinion other than your opinion of my opinion. When you have something to say about the muffler, I'll read it.

 

[40oz]

those faked dyno charts on the website are hilarious. i wonder if they had their art guy just randomly draw lines? anyway, any company that puts clearly fake dyno charts on their site to lie about performance improvements is pretty lame in my book.

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

Are you serious? Granted it might be a good design for a muffler, but you're telling me it's going to add 50whp and 50ft/lbs torque to an LS1? Pulease.

The other two dyno's COULD be realistic, I suppose if it was a very restrictive muffler, it might add those gains on there that it shows, but it's by no means God's gift to the exhaust. My open downpipe (or any for that matter) will dominate over *.muffler any day of the week, any dyno, any altitude, period.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

Did your car trap 131 mph ?.

pump gas no, race gas maybe

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

That 12.1 pass was shifting (or attempting to) at 9k on a bone stock tranny. I missed second miserably on that pass, 8.1 @ 94mph 1/8 mile, 12.1 @ 131mph 1/4. It had mid 130's in it atleast on that boost setting/tune if it would shift and hook.. I was on 4 kuhmo ecsta's blowing them off through the first two gears.. pulled a 1.8 sixty open diff. For anyone in the area, the pass was at Mountain Park/Clay City.. I don't need to go into how their track is.

Next year the drivetrain is getting built. Baby steps...

ya im not really knocking your setup man yours was done right and the exhaust exits the righ way not all looped around and shit. cant wait till next year when your car is built wiht some good drivetrain parts. good luck

 

[anconover]

pump gas no, race gas maybe

if you can gain 15+mph from just adding racegas, please give me your secret =P

 

[lewroe59]

The heat problem can be handled through modern technology........there are coatings available that can take 2500' F on the inside and only be about 150'F on the outside !!!!! I'm getting the heat shields laser cut and I'm gonna coat the underside with Thermo Tec adhesive-backed barrier. I also think my oil temps will be low by not having the pipe right up against the oil pan. Pipe has been rotated 1.5" more away from the radiator giving me like a 3.5" gap. I see most people didnt even read my post. I clearly stated the fans were gonna be pusher style spal fans that I got yesterday . Other than that it's funny people raggin on these aero-turbine mufflers. If you understand thermo-dynamics and physics, its easy to understand how they work. They have been dyno tested on the shop dyno and do increase hp, but you can argue that all you want. Oh, and people who are dissin the manifold, cant argue with 627hp out of the same design. Later haters!

 

[Hal]

The bootom line is that the first system pictured is poorly thought out.

We'll leave the quality of the components out of the discussion.

1) The 180 degree bend adds an uneeded restriction, but that's fairly minor point in comparison to the other issues
2) The routing of the pipe is too close to the radiator. In this location, a large amount of radiant heat will be transferred from the pipe to the radiator. This will reduce the efficiency of the cooling system
3) The location of the muffler is too close to the radiator hoses. The radiant heat will soften and weaken the hoses, leading to failure.
4) No amount of heat shielding or coatings is going to over come the effects of the high heat levels generated. An exhaust tip gets hot enough to melt the rear bumper cover and that's 10' from the manifold. Imagine the havoc that this setup is going to cause under the hood.

Hal

 

[lewroe59]

The bootom line is that the first system pictured is poorly thought out.

We'll leave the quality of the components out of the discussion.

1) The 180 degree bend adds an uneeded restriction, but that's fairly minor point in comparison to the other issues
2) The routing of the pipe is too close to the radiator. In this location, a large amount of radiant heat will be transferred from the pipe to the radiator. This will reduce the efficiency of the cooling system
3) The location of the muffler is too close to the radiator hoses. The radiant heat will soften and weaken the hoses, leading to failure.
4) No amount of heat shielding or coatings is going to over come the effects of the high heat levels generated. An exhaust tip gets hot enough to melt the rear bumper cover and that's 10' from the manifold. Imagine the havoc that this setup is going to cause under the hood.

Hal

1. uh, yeah. very minor restriction.
2. with shields and coatings do you really think its worse than a tubular (ex: full race) header?
3. hoses are stainless pipe with flex couplers and also wrapped and coated(all getting done for free!).
4. I have a vented hood if necessary, but I dont think it will be.

 

[pboglio]

A few of us DO understand thermodynamics and physics, otherwise they would never have let us graduate from Engineering School.

I was going to mention the 180* bend but I got beat to it You've got the opposite of a cold air intake, like some kind of reheat device on a turbine engine. I'd believe the horsepower claims if they were tied to some sort of scaveging or wave tuning effect, that is a proven way. Changing the internal shape of that muffler to increase/decrease the pressure, velocity, or decrease the temperature does NOTHING. Your more likely to cause IRREVERSABLE flow losses due to all the bullshit decelerating and swirling that muffler supposedly does. Also, that bullshit inverted cone screen baffle looks like a nice flow restricting device too. IF it affects the pulse tuning somehow than I can believe some gains, but still. That log manifold sucks and you'd gain spool by going to a stock DSM manifold or even a nice tubular manifold with independant runners. If your going to be different at least pick designs that are fundamentally sound and proven. The only good thing I see is a big diameter pipe that's short, thats about it. Your design picked almost every bad design feature there is: high intake temps, high exhaust manifold back pressure, and looks like higher muffler pressure drop than a straight thru design. I forgot, people that don't crack into the 11's know nothing. If you listened to some of these guys suggestions you'd have a more efficient, powerful, and reliable setup while still being able to have a different look.

 

[Hal]

Of course it's worse than a tubular header.

The total surface area that will radiate heat, combined with the proximity to the cooling system is just asking for trouble.

The exhaust will get red hot during a 1/4 mile pass, and that heat has to go some place.

Stainless steel coolant piping won't help. It won't melt, but it will make a great thermal conductor for putting that heat into the cooling system.

Hal

 

[lewroe59]

I dont know what you guys are looking at, but there is no baffle in the muffler. it is a straight-thru design. I give up, stick to your dynomax mufflers, and shun innovation. And I would have hoped an engineer would understand how the system works, but when your seeing "baffles" I guess its apparent why it didnt make sense to you.

good lord! do you not read? The point obviously wasnt that the hose was stainless, it was that the hose is THERMALLY SHIELDED(and re-routed far from the pipe). wtf, is up with you guys?

 

[92redman]

If you are sticking your radiator fan on the other side of the radiator, are you going to have problems with fitting an intercooler? I have never seen a set up with the push through fans, just wondering how that works.

 

[lewroe59]

If you are sticking your radiator fan on the other side of the radiator, are you going to have problems with fitting an intercooler? I have never seen a set up with the push through fans, just wondering how that works.

The fans fit fine. I dont have a/c (removes a/c cond. or rad. whatever it is) so that creates some room, and the SPAL fans are pretty thin, and push alot of air! I'm not exactly sure the technical differences b/w the pushers and pullers other than the obvious but they are different part #'s, not just wired backwards.