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LOL are you kidding me? You think that exhaust is a good idea? for what reason, is that a great idea for the power he will be making? To me it looks like someone was bored, and wanted to be real cool and pretend they have a drag car. That manifold is a big POS (i dont care if polk made it, log manifolds r shit) and that exhaust is ridiculous. Unless he was going to push the limits of a 3" exhaust wich i HIGHLY doubt, something like that is 100% unecessary and just for show purposes. And besides, with that junk muffler its not going to help. I guess routing the exhaust through the engine bay, and right up against the radiator so you cant run a fan, is the cool in thing to do. I guess im just not hip to this new badass style. :rolleyes:
 
Mirage2LTurbo said:
My car with a stock thermostat barely breaks 90*c, usually runs between 80 and 85 unless I'm banging through the gears with the exhaust I posted above, what's yours run at?

I've had mine on all season, and know of another local who's had a similar exhaust for over 3 years, his paint is still perfect.

You get the :thumbdown for the dumbest post in this thread.

Your's doesn't go up and over like his. ;)
 
Why not exit out the driver side bumper? That is how another local is doing his. Just like mine, but spin the turbo 180*, and exit the exhaust under the alternator and out the bumper.
 
haha... so many haters.. someone does something different and everyone goes crazy...

Lewis, You know I like it. We just gotta get your car running first. Coulda done that on friday if your battery wasnt dead.

If an AeroTurbine muffler is a piece of junk, then what IS a good muffler?




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Mirage2LTurbo said:
Why not exit out the driver side bumper? That is how another local is doing his. Just like mine, but spin the turbo 180*, and exit the exhaust under the alternator and out the bumper.

Maybe the alternator would get too hot and break every other week?
 
Every motor needs backpressure. Turbo motors don't really need to worry about it though, because we get our backpressure from the motor. SC and N/A cars, on the other hand, don't have a turbine there to create the backpressure, so they need a properly sized exhaust and good header design.

We can just slap a big mofugin pipe after the turbo and call it a day. Ah, how great we have it :thumb:
 
defrag010 said:
haha... so many haters.. someone does something different and everyone goes crazy...

There is "different" smart and "different" stupid.

Hal
 
Hal said:
There is "different" smart and "different" stupid.

Hal

Just what I was thinking HAL :laugh: Bottom line here is IT ISNT A DRAG CAR OR ENGINE!!! So why have it :confused: Might run better with a regular 3" normal mandrel exhaust. Sorry doent get my vote for the vehicle its being in and being street driven. Not a hatter just a bad Idea for a street car let alone the money it took to build it.
 
suicidal2af said:
Every motor needs backpressure. Turbo motors don't really need to worry about it though, because we get our backpressure from the motor. SC and N/A cars, on the other hand, don't have a turbine there to create the backpressure, so they need a properly sized exhaust and good header design.

We can just slap a big mofugin pipe after the turbo and call it a day. Ah, how great we have it :thumb:
No no no! Backpressure is bad, exhaust velocity is good. Also, supercharged cars while under boost also do best with very open exhausts.
 
You all need to NOT talk if you DONT have experience with things. That's what I love about this board.. 100 people with tons of theory ancy to give advice, and not enough people with experience that actually knows what's going on.


finally someone agrees with me. :dsm: although i dont totally agree with lewroe's setup its totally badass looking and a sweet drag only setup. mirage i think yours will produce less heat under the hood than his setup would. i give you guys a :thumb:
 
suicidal2af said:
Every motor needs backpressure. Turbo motors don't really need to worry about it though, because we get our backpressure from the motor. SC and N/A cars, on the other hand, don't have a turbine there to create the backpressure, so they need a properly sized exhaust and good header design.

We can just slap a big mofugin pipe after the turbo and call it a day. Ah, how great we have it :thumb:

I think you are confusing backpressure with scavenging. Backpressure is not good for any engine's power, scavenging is good for an n/a engine because it is drawing air in rather than forcing it. What the exhaust does do though, is tune the powerband. Increase the size, you shift the powerband up.

I would suggest searching for backpressure. I believe one of the wisemen posted a good write-up quite some time ago.

As for the original poster, I don't know if this is good idea or not. Everbody should stop hating on the guy until he field tests the thing. Who knows, this might work really well and catch-on. Just keep us upgraded when you find out how well(or how terrible) this setup is.

edit: I went ahead and did some searching just so everybody can be more informed before making a post.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128296&highlight=exhaust+scavenging
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59394&highlight=exhaust+scavenging
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21197&highlight=exhaust+scavenging
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14852&highlight=exhaust+scavenging
 
why do you guys say the muffler is CRAP? I am an AEROTURBINE dealer here in AR. and i have to say it has the best " deep tone" ive ever heard on a 4 or 6 cyl engine! Also it is one of the only mufflers (alone) that actually makes a NOTICEABLE difference in hp along with hp numbers..... all this from a DIE HARD THERMAL REASEARCH NUT ( also carry these too)....... i guess because you havent used it , it HAS to be "ricey" huh?

JP
 
I hate how so many people just try to put peoples ideas down without any experience. Personally I think that is pretty cool and with that peaking out the bumper cover that will look sick. If you wrap all the exhaust piping with thermal wrap their should not be much of a difference in underhood temps. Cool :thumb:
 
wkd4g63 said:
why do you guys say the muffler is CRAP? I am an AEROTURBINE dealer here in AR. and i have to say it has the best " deep tone" ive ever heard on a 4 or 6 cyl engine! Also it is one of the only mufflers (alone) that actually makes a NOTICEABLE difference in hp along with hp numbers..... all this from a DIE HARD THERMAL REASEARCH NUT ( also carry these too)....... i guess because you havent used it , it HAS to be "ricey" huh?

JP

Most of us have done quite well with dynomax mufflers. Vary far from ricey..Of course switching anything exhaust wise from stock is a improvement.
 
did you notice how all the people that like it say 'i think its pretty cool' and 'it looks sick'. And all the people that are bashing it are giving reasons for doing so? Because its a bad idea. Not only will you probly melt the radiator hose, and blow up your freakin radiator, but its going to make no more power than a 3" turboback would because you probly wont exceed the limit of a 3" system. The weight.... big deal you saved a few lbs to kill you paint on the hood, radiator etc. Where does the radiator fan and intake pipe go? Run on open turbo and youll be sure to suck in lots of hot air. Some people can think 'that shits sick son' but its just not practical, or smart in anyway.
 
Well, that sure is one interesting exhaust system :D . But like a few have said, I would not want a log manifold, thats a major downgrade for several reasons. A good upgrade in spool up would be to switch over to a ported EVO or 2g exhaust manifold with the flow divider kept intact. It won't be different but it will work very very good in quickly spooling up your big turbo. That shortened exhaust system probably also shifted the resonance tuning way the hell up there in the rpm band too. You can't post something like that and not expect people with a basic knowledge of Automotive Engineering to pick it apart. I do admit it IS cool looking, just not practical.

I'd love to read the technical paper on that muffler though, I'm open minded :thumb: .
 
yes that is good that you two have tride that type of exhaust setup, but in the long run its not needed, i mean i noticed one of you are only running 12.1. i beat that on pump gas with 2 resonaters in my exhaust system :thumb:. it would have been a better idea to just run 3'' straight pipes all the way back. if you guys could maybe post some dynos or track results with this setup compared to a normal exhaust setup on your car that would be great then you could actully shut us up and have your point proven but intil then, there wil be alot of dsmer's bashing on you guys :cool:
 
eclipsegsx9797 said:
yes that is good that you two have tride that type of exhaust setup, but in the long run its not needed, i mean i noticed one of you are only running 12.1. i beat that on pump gas with 2 resonaters in my exhaust system :thumb:. it would have been a better idea to just run 3'' straight pipes all the way back. if you guys could maybe post some dynos or track results with this setup compared to a normal exhaust setup on your car that would be great then you could actully shut us up and have your point proven but intil then, there wil be alot of dsmer's bashing on you guys :cool:

Did your car trap 131 mph ?.
 
mirageturbo2liters is done how it should be, and yes his car is basically a drag car in training. it is not driven everyday.

the exhaust is nearly 100% straight and short.. also the extra benefit of not having rear exhaust saved a few pounds..


now the other one?? I must agree it is horrible.. with that he may as well of ran it under the motor and come out behing the front wheel. or do the A/C relocate and shoot it out that way..

my next car will be downpipe only more than likely, they are quiet enough with no exhaust may as well save on the price of fancy exhaust for more important things
 
That 12.1 pass was shifting (or attempting to) at 9k on a bone stock tranny. I missed second miserably on that pass, 8.1 @ 94mph 1/8 mile, 12.1 @ 131mph 1/4. It had mid 130's in it atleast on that boost setting/tune if it would shift and hook.. I was on 4 kuhmo ecsta's blowing them off through the first two gears.. pulled a 1.8 sixty open diff. For anyone in the area, the pass was at Mountain Park/Clay City.. I don't need to go into how their track is.

Next year the drivetrain is getting built. Baby steps... :D
 
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