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Stuttering, not building boost, help identifying a part.

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JCHemenway

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Jan 25, 2012
Marcellus, Michigan
Hello i have a 1998 eagle talon tsi FWD with a 6bolt swap and stock 14b turbo. some stuff on her is rigged a little but shes a work in progress and i bought her that way, only owned her for about 3 days now. When i bought the car i was told it was running at 15psi ( maxed the stock boost gauge out No problem) however when i hooked up a autometer gauge it was only reading at about 9psi max. When i drove her home she boosted fine and was very audible. Day 2 i got on her a little and on about the 4th pull i grabbed 1st then 2nd and on 3rd she fell on her nose and sputtered and wouldnt rev past 4k with boost. If i eased her and didnt build boost it was fine ( also only did this under a load and in neutral she was fine). Got home and was freaking out LOL. Checked all the normal stuff, Shaft play, wastegate actuator was working, when i checked vacuum lines i found a line running from the Intake manifold to the back of the intake to a small sensor with a little nipple on it, looks like it should be bolted somewhere or onto something ( not with a hose just dangling on it) however since they were in the same area together and that hose wasnt hooked up i put it on the sensor. To my suprise i was able to boost to max and seemed to run fine until i gave her WOT, Then she sputtered and wouldnt go past whatever RPM it was at when it started sputtering. I am now not building boost as much or as fast. only around 6psi. What happened? Also might add that now i hear what sounds like air fluttering back out of the breather, The BOV is doing its job to some extent because thats still pretty audible. I am thinking maybe Boost leak? The only other thing i feel i should add is that i hooked up my A/F and says im running lean, never anything else just lean. I hooked it up correctly i think LOL. I ran the wires to pin 76 on the ecu which is what the tutorial said. Im going to post some pictures and please if you see anything wrong say what you want about it LOL not my any of my handy work. i just want my car to run right.
 
Not quite sure what to do about this boost leak i got at the TB. Its leaking right in the middle of the TB base gasket. I bought a new gasket and even put some Sealant on there and its still leaking. Is it possible my TB is warped or the base of the intake is warped? Its causing me some big issues, i cant pressurise the system for more than 10secs to 15psi with this leak.

Did you use a 1G or 2G TB gasket? You have a 2G TB mated to a 1G IM. 2G TB's have a smaller bore than a 1G so you have a slight mismatch between the TB and IM. Other things could be causing the leak but this is something to check out. Swapping your 2G TB for a 1G will simplify the gasket issue and increase performance a bit to boot.


Also, I would recommend using a NGK "BR" plug, not the "BPR" plug ("P"=projected tip vs non-projected tip). For your boost level I would recommend NGK BR6ES (no "P").


EDIT: Is your TB leaking along the bottom edge about midway between the two lower bolts (intake manifold side)? If so then you probably used a 1G TB gasket. Try a 2G gasket.
 
Its leaking right in the middle. Directly where the TPS is. I also did use a 2g TB gasket so i shouldnt have issues there.I have yet to take it off and check to see if its warped i will get to it probably tomorrow when im outt work.
 
Its leaking right in the middle. Directly where the TPS is. I also did use a 2g TB gasket so i shouldnt have issues there.I have yet to take it off and check to see if its warped i will get to it probably tomorrow when im outt work.

You may have a leak at the shaft seal as solson1041 mentioned. Do another boost leak test. While the system is pressurized rotate the throttle linkage by hand and listen for a change in pitch of the air escaping. If it changes as you open/close the plate then it's a leaking shaft seal.
 
Looks like i got this situation taken care of. Seem my boost leak is caused by my TB being warped a little, Im just going to use some gasket material thats thicker than the tb gasket i got from autozone and it should seal it up. I mentioned it was starting extremely hard and found that was due to the Coolant temp sensor, when i had my intercooler piping off to fix leaks i must have ripped that wire right of the sensor, all i did was splice back into it and it runs like champ. Thnx for all the help guys i got lots of useful information and im sure ill have more questions later when i get link and start tuning.
 
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