Springs For The Tein Flex Damper

[djXternal]

Alright I'm Looking At Getting The Tein Type Flex Dampers w/ EDFC Now, but wtill want that 1.5"-2" Drop So... What Are Some Good Springs To Go With These Shocks???

 

[Spidey]

Maybe you should do a liiiiiittle more research before dropping $1300 on something you know nothing about, i.e. - they come WITH springs, and they are height adjustable.

 

[djXternal]

How much adjustment in height... all i got from their site so far was .3"

 

[QCV8eater]

tein flex coilovers are height adjustable. Unadjusted, they will drop your car 1.9" front and 1.5" rear. you can set it ranging from 0.9" to 2.9" front and 0.6 to 2.5" at the rear.

Only reason why i would think of changing the springs would be to change the spring rates, since they are fairly low as they are now ( 560 front / 340 rear), to stiffer ones (around 600/400)

I would suggest you to sit a bit and think of what you're going to do with that suspension. You sound like you want more drop than handling, then maybe springs would be a better idea (much cheaper too) because Tein Flex is overkill if you are mainly looking for a drop. Other idea would be springs and shocks combined... but IMO they are in the end at least as expensive, because if you want to get pillowball upper mounts and a good adjustment, you'll end up spending your 1300-1400 $$ anyway...

So in the end, are you show or go? start from there...

Phil

 

[djXternal]

I'm actually going for both show and handling/power... soon im gonna start work on the engine, but in the mean time id like to have the car lowered for looks as well as handling... i have passengers alot of times, and that is why id like the electronic adjustment of the tein's i can make em stiff for excellent handling by myself, but still have a smooth ride for my passenger

 

[jim97gst]

The difference in ride comfort between the firmest setting and the softest setting is not that dramatic. It's not like you're riding in a Cadillac, then you push a button and you're in an F1 car. I doubt your average passenger could even tell that much of a difference.

The stock spring rates that come with the flex of 10 kg/mm front and 6 kg/mm are relatively stiff for a street car. Your average non-enthusiast will probably tell you your car is uncomfortable to ride in. Especially when you hit an expansion joint on the highway going 75 mph.

If you do decide to up the spring rate from Tein's default rates, you can only go +/- 2 kg/mm without getting the shock revalved (about $100/corner). If you go +2, and don't get the shocks revalved, you will probably need to run the damper toward the stiff end of adjustment to be able to control the spring, taking away your adjustment for passengers thing.

 

[QCV8eater]

I am 95% sure the EDFC WILL NOT fit on a 2G DSM. The hood is too close to the strut, making it impossible, or extreeeeemmly tight, to add the motors on top of your struts.

As Jim said, the difference between stiff and soft is not that striking, ppl will feel the difference, but most of them will still think it's stiff... simply warn them you dont have a lincoln town car, but a SPORTS car.

Most ppl I know who use these coilovers simply set them once at a good stiff/soft compromise to be versatile and dont switch the settings at all, or very rarely. EDFC would be either for bling bling or a hardcore racer. If you fit in any of those 2 categories and got the spare money, go for it Otherwise, it's another overkill.

If u ask me if I would do it, i'd answer yes if it was free
Ask yourself : how often do you play around with your other in-car electronics, like S-AFC, TT or boost controller?? Not so often... that's why in the end, EDFC is hella bling bling added to the car, but i agree that the lil box looks nice in the car

Phil

 

[djXternal]

alright well i probably hold off on the edfc for now then, but still am planning on the flex dampers... has neone actualy drove a car with these? handling good? whats your opinions on them?

 

[jim97gst]

has neone actualy drove a car with these?

Everyday. Actually not everyday. My wife doesn't like to ride in my car very much anymore, mostly because of the suspension. I spend most of my time riding with her in a Honda Accord The ride is not THAT bad, but it's pretty stiff. The shocks control the springs pretty well, so it's not bouncy at all. But when you hit a big bump going pretty fast, you'll definitely feel it. I'm no suspension expert, and this was my first spring/shock upgrade, but my times are getting better and better in autocross. But that's also a combination of more seat time, 245 wide tires, and sway bars. Are you planning on racing at all?

 

[djXternal]

possibly, but only 1/4 miles races really... i have to work on my engine ALOT before any of that though

 

[Jeff_Jeske]

I am about 24 hours away from purchasing the FLEX setup. I need to know how tolerable the suspension is on its softest setting.

Would you take a 1000mile road trip in your car with this suspension?

The reason I ask is this.....I just got the GSX....I previously had a Probe GT that was both my race and street car. RACE ACTION PHOTOS At first I had Eibach Pro Kit and Tokico Illumina 5 way struts with oversized RSB and RSTB....the ride and performance was perfectly balanced for the track and the street. Adjustments on the struts were very noticable and could go from stock like to much stiffer than stock.

Then I upgraded to Ground Control Coil Overs with the Illumina struts and though that was perfect for a full race vehicle on a nice smooth track....the ride on the street was punishing. It felt like the Illumina struts couldn't dampen the GC's enough and coming off of bridges where there may be a dip would be very hard on the back and neck. One time my woman was sleeping in the passenger seat without the belt....I hit a dip in the road and looked over....she was about a foot off the seat!!! She didn't care for the new suspension at all. I do not want suspension that is super stiff again.

So is the FLEX system neutral enough for a 1000 mile road trip without getting neck and back pain from being jolted around?

 

[jtmcinder]

First off, if you love her, put a seatbelt on her. Even if you don't, put a seatbelt on her.

Second, if you don't like the ride on Illuminas, then I can't see you being happy on Teins. You want more rebound without more compression and you'll only get that with double adjustables ($$$) or Konis.

For less money than new Flexes, get a set of Konis and have GC send you new rings for the perches (to fit Konis). Then get upper plates from RRE or, soon, ATI or SBR. Do not use the GC plates ... at least, don't use the bushings that come with them.

- Jtoby