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LosiRacerX

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May 30, 2004
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how fast do you guys shift wit ur 4g63 motors, because this is my first time driven a manual car, how much faster do you shift then driven a 82 f150(my friends), becuase ive only driven a manual 1 time
 
First off I wouldnt recommend slamming the gears in these cars. Especially a stock tranny. Its not a Honda!! Second the easiest way is to LISTEN to your car. It will tell you when to shift. As long as you know what to listen for. Also take it easy on that stock clutch. Hope that helps and made since. :thumb:
 
Shift with your wrist. Move the lever with your arm, but leave some slack so the synchros have a chance to do their work. Then slide into gear.

You aren't a racer. Don't try to break your car like one. You can take your time and still drive 'way too fast.
 
Defiant said:
Shift with your wrist. Move the lever with your arm, but leave some slack so the synchros have a chance to do their work. Then slide into gear.

You aren't a racer. Don't try to break your car like one. You can take your time and still drive 'way too fast.
:thumb:

Just shift like a normal motion.
Don't try to slam it. Your wanting to go into gear... not make your shifter hit the radio.
 
I have a question about how the shifter should act when put into gear. When I put it into any gear on the outside (1st,2nd,5th and Reverse) the shifter will come back in toward the center so it looks like it's halfway inbetween 1st and 3rd for example. Is this normal or do I need to adjust something?
 
This is a great thread. I just got my eclipse a few weeks ago and it was my first time driving manual.

Is having the clutch in alot bad for it? I don't know if thats "Riding the Clutch" or what?

And you guys say not to slam into gears, but don't you have to shift quickly if your going WOT?
 
there is a difference in shifting quickly and slamming into gear. Remember smooth is fast, dont force the shift, let it slide into place. Since your just learning how to drive a Man Tran. Learn what your doing first. Dont drive around beating the crap out of the car. You will learn the timing of your clutch from when it grabs and at what peddle Position it will grab. When you learn your clutch, then start working shifting quicker. Just remember your just sliding from one gear to the next, dont slam it into gear. Tranny will last much longer.
 
BlackNWhiteRS said:
This is a great thread. I just got my eclipse a few weeks ago and it was my first time driving manual.

Is having the clutch in alot bad for it? I don't know if thats "Riding the Clutch" or what?

And you guys say not to slam into gears, but don't you have to shift quickly if your going WOT?

Odd as it sounds there is a happy medium. Riding the clutch is sorta like hanging on to the clutch past the release point. Or just releasing to slow while giving it gas. You can hear when the clutch is being rode. At no time do you HAVE to shift fast. Shifting fast is something you will learn. The more you race the better it is because it helps save time. Also I say it again save your tranny and NEVER force a gear. If it grinds dont continue. Back off and try again. Plus I dont recommend dumping the clutch. Hope that helps.

ps. If you smell something aweful after you been driving its probably your clutch. Take it alittle easier next time. :thumb:
 
Aikouka said:
I have a question about how the shifter should act when put into gear. When I put it into any gear on the outside (1st,2nd,5th and Reverse) the shifter will come back in toward the center so it looks like it's halfway inbetween 1st and 3rd for example. Is this normal or do I need to adjust something?

They dont have a real far throw. If its not trying to pop out of gear its probably fine.
 
i have in some BG syncroshift, but it didnt seem to help and i dont think switching to syncromesh will change anything either, oh well.
 
BlackNWhiteRS said:
This is a great thread. I just got my eclipse a few weeks ago and it was my first time driving manual.

Is having the clutch in alot bad for it? I don't know if thats "Riding the Clutch" or what?

And you guys say not to slam into gears, but don't you have to shift quickly if your going WOT?


dont sit at stop lights with the clutch in, dont just hold the clutch in for no reason, it can eventually wear out your throw out bearing and put extra stress on your hydraulic system
 
girlieracr4g63 said:
They dont have a real far throw. If its not trying to pop out of gear its probably fine.

It seems to go into gears fine. Although I'm not great at driving it (I lost about 5mph when trying to shift :D), when my brother drove it, he had no problem shifting into different gears, and trust me, he was trying the gears out and wanted to go into 4th on a dirt road OMG. Reverse is still a chore to get into (which is probably the safety mechanism for it), but I'm getting used to it.
 
not to rob the question or anything but does the clutch need to be to the floor in order to it to catch, or will halfway down catch it. I just ask this because when i drive i have to slide the seat so damn far up my chin is touching the steering wheel. I don't wanna just try it and break somethin so i'd like to know before hand.
 
bluelightning92 said:
not to rob the question or anything but does the clutch need to be to the floor in order to it to catch, or will halfway down catch it. I just ask this because when i drive i have to slide the seat so damn far up my chin is touching the steering wheel. I don't wanna just try it and break somethin so i'd like to know before hand.

From my little experience (but enough to know where the catch point is for shifting) I've always found it very close to the floor. You seem to have the opposite problem as me ... my legs are long and I have to move the seat up so I don't have to stretch them out too far (you wouldn't think long legs would be a hassle :p.)
 
ALWAYS make sure the tranny is in gear before letting out the clutch. I let the clutch go a few times to early going into 2nd and i heard a grinding, well one time i did this and it wouldnt go into 1st or 2nd. Yea, that was a shift fork that broke, and you dont want to have to pay to replace a tranny.
 
When going into reverse do this.

While sitting completely still push the clutch in. Now put the car into first gear. Then shift into reverse. Reverse doesn't have the proper syncros to stop the rotating input shaft and align with the still output shaft. As you get more comfortable you will learn to just bump the synchro in first then shift to reverse. now let off the clutch and move :D

The catch point for you individual clutch is different than other cars. The more worn the disk the higher the catch point will be on the pedal (worn = further from floor). Also there is an adjustment that can be made to move the engagement point further up or down. If you have a 2600 it is probably always going to be near or at the floor.
 
NoRiceTSi said:
dont sit at stop lights with the clutch in, dont just hold the clutch in for no reason, it can eventually wear out your throw out bearing and put extra stress on your hydraulic system

But if i put it in nuetral and let the clutch out, then when the light turns green, i haft to hurry up because the people behind me are freaking out, so i push in the clutch, put it in first and GGGRRRIIINNNDDD...i think my trany is bad. :(
 
Sounds like maybe your not pushing in the clutch enough. If your going to the floor, maybe want to adjust your clutch. I had the grinding problem going into reverse, and sometimes a hardtime getting into 1st (with the occasional grind). After adjusting it, no problems at all.. and A LOT smoother. Besides it being annoying pushing the pedal to the ground to shift, I read some posts (after doing a search) saying that its another "possible crankwalk causing theory". Not sure how true it is. Right now I barely have to press in the pedal to shift. But im actually about to go out and adjust it a bit more to try to get it more in the middle. Maybe if someone can shed some light on if it really is bad to have to press the pedal to the ground?

Check out: Clutch Adjustment (takes 5min... maybe 15/20min first time)
 
MyEclipse5 said:
But if i put it in nuetral and let the clutch out, then when the light turns green, i haft to hurry up because the people behind me are freaking out, so i push in the clutch, put it in first and GGGRRRIIINNNDDD...i think my trany is bad. :(

#### the people at the light. Don't let their impatence cost you a tranny.
 
MyEclipse5 said:
But if i put it in nuetral and let the clutch out, then when the light turns green, i haft to hurry up because the people behind me are freaking out, so i push in the clutch, put it in first and GGGRRRIIINNNDDD...i think my trany is bad. :(

If you ever feel resistance where it doesn't want you to go into gear, blip the throttle a little. That will help you out a lot... especially into first.
 
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