S2000 ap2 2006 cluster on Mitsubishi Eclipse almost done!

[Eagle_Phoenix]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/att...r-mitsubishi-eclipse-almost-done-cluster1.jpg

S2000 ap2 2006 cluster on Mitsubishi Eclipse almost done!

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMMAGE THAT THIS PROJECT CAN MAKE INTO YOUR CAR REGARDING IMPROPER USE OR WRONG CIRCUIT COMPONENTS MOUNTED ON MY FINAL CONCLUSION CIRCUIT ON PDF.

I DONT HAVE ANY WISH TO BRAKE US COPYRIGHTS AND DISRESPECT ANY KIND OF LAW, THE MEMBER ASSUME TOTAL RESPONSABILITY AFTER USING THE INFORMATION HERE BELLOW AND MAKE THE AUTHOR (ME) BE OUT OF ANY RESPONSABILITY LEGAL OR REGARDING ANY DAMMAGE IT MAY CAUSE TO YOUR CAR AND CIRCUITS.

BUT IT WILL NOT CAUSE ANY DAMMAGE AND IF YOU FOLLOW STEP BY STEP ON MY FINAL CONCLUSION PROJECT, IT WILL FOR SURE NOT DAMMAGE ANYTHING, AS I'VE TESTED ON MY OWN CAR AND MY PURPOSE FOR THIS IS TO MAKE FUNCTIONAL THE CLUSTER THAT WAS SOLD FOR ME AND HONDA ENGINEERS REFUSE TO GIVE ANY INFORMATION ON "TECH" NOTES FOR THIS PROJECT.

THUS IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT ONCE I GET A CLUSTER THAT WAS SOLD FOR ME AND PAID THE PRICE FOR THIS PART, IT GIVES ME THE RIGHT TO MAKE IT FULLY FUNCTIONAL ON MY CAR, IT IS REALLY FAIR FOR ME TO HAVE THIS PART WORKING ON MY CAR ONCE I'VE PAID FOR IT AND I WAS A VICTIM OF A NON WORKING CLUSTER THAT WORKS IN A CODED SYSTEM FOR THE NEW AGE TECHNOLOGY ON CAR COMMICATION SYSTEMS. (CAN BUS NETWORK).

TAKE THIS FORUM AS IS, DONATIONS ARE WELCOME AS I AM A POOR PERSON THAT FIGHTS AND DREAM FOR LIFE WITH TECHNOLOGY MAKING SMART SOLUTIONS.

Eagle R. G

Here I am, after some sad moments, I got the light that everyman can develop anything when is determined with mind and spirit to it.

I opened here this forum, as now I will finish my 3 years mitsubishi eclipse (eagle talon) project and I will share the information with all the community of dsmtunners.

I got a cluster from s2000 - 2007 with wire and sockets, I've made some researches and could not find any information to this cluster, also no one in this entire world decided to create and build every module with their own knowledge for this conversion, there is not anything that may adjust this cluster to my eagle, then I decided to create myself everything into a "ECU".

Modfry Guys told me it is on canbus network and obd2 network, but refused to give me any further information in regards this project or they may not know nothing else for this project.

I will do this and as a good Christian, I will share with all people that be interested, e-mail me for the "PDF" conclusion in regards this study.

But testing step by step using my own diagnostics, I could make this cluster almost fully functional, except the temp gauge.

almost all lights, speedo, rpm.... (everything worked wonderfully right and functional)

One step to success, it is the temp gauge, here in this video is the cluster turn on almost fully functional, this video was recorded by me and is my own accent and voice in it, please! english is not my first language so, I try to do my best.

I speak Italian, English and Portuguese.

YouTube - s2000 video.MPG

I am creating a pdf with my own illustration with simple methods, without using the material of anyone as this cluster no one could give me information how it works.

As I've said everything works great, except the temp gauge that I will need to create a circuit to emulate the canbus or obd2 data.

Everything is on final step and the information I need is regarding the coolant "id code and can bus iso number for this s2000 2007 interface.

This is everything I need to finish the circuit layout that I am going to install in a box similar to an ecu with the full conversion from Mitsubishi Eclipse signals for S2000 ap2 2007 cluster.

This smal box will convert the signal and voltages to proper millivoltage for fuel gauge be fully working, it will receive the signal from "DSM ECU ENGINE MODULE" and convert it to can line straight to cluster, without the "ECT" converter (that does not work at all and without the "Speedohealer" as it will be an ECT converter, speedohealer and (obd2 or canbus converter) into one circuit programmed in as much "pic" microchips it needs, it will be a single circuit that will emulate everything delivering the signals on wires to the cluster in another side of socket box, making the full job without spending money to this ect converter, speedohealer and equipment to make the fuel gauge be working.

It is based in a circuit programmed in pic language that will also do the speedo healing fix to correct the car speed for this change and also to adjust the speed when someone change the diameter of wheels and tires using with a gps to catch the real speed, then adjusting + or - based on speedo from gps speed.

I will include everything into one single box and now in order for me to finish this project, I need to know:

1#CAN BUS LINE ISO NUMBER FOR S2000 AP2 2007 SYSTEM???

2#"ID CODE AND INPUT FREQUENCY VARIATION TO MAKE COOLANT TEMP BAR-GRAPH CURVE?

3#WHAT ARE THE PIN-IN TO IT?

4#"ID CODE FOR EXTERNAL TEMPERATURE AND ID CODE FOR "OIL LIFE PERCENTAGE".

Once I finish to the happyness of this community and all good christians and non christian hearts, I will share the full project with anyone that need this.

"THAT ALL THE GLORY BE TO FATHER GOD! AND THE MESSIAH JESUS CHRIST".

THEIR GLORY ARE THE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM.

I am not a "FAQ".

Somebody told me that the secret of success is to hide the sources, but I understand this as mental masturbation not sharing information with other people.

I see how greatful an enthusiast of this car could be and many other enthusiast if they had everything needed into a pdf without spending money with that ect converter and speedohealer and hours and hours of researches like I did for nothing and many of this enthusiasts ordered this ect converter and it were "USELESS".

This "pdf" will press people to be more humble and share their ideas.

THIS "PDF" WILL HAPPEN AS SOON I FINISH MY PROJECT.

I want to be rated for this if you like my project and as soon I finish this project, I will put videos like I did in this thread.

This video is myself speaking with my cluster on own hands, as I mentioned I am English is not my first language.

ALL I WANT IS RESPECT! FOR SOME PEOPLE IT IS MORE IMPORTANT!

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=108981&stc=1&d=1272406374

Ok, experts here I go with new information in this cluster, not so happy but as I mentioned, I will find a solution for all the enthusiasts that wants a cluster wonderful like this in their cars 90`s and 95+`.

I downloaded from internet a software capable to generate signals on square, triangle and sine or many other customs signals in order to test one by one.

The square wave only moved the speedometer, I could make the speedometer works at a frequency of 2.830khz for 100km\h as here in this country the milleage is km\h instead mp\h, then all my diagnoses will be based in km\ph. then we can realize that it is 28.3 pulses per km\h this cluster works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odju5vwvK54


As much I was making the frequency higher, the speedometer was going up, I could see 300km\ph in this cluster, (IT IS A NEGATIVE PULSE OF AMPLITUDE 5VOLTS AND 28.3 PULSE PER KM\PH ON SQUARE WAVE, BUT SINE WAVE ALSO WORKED, HOWEVER SQUARE IS RECOMENDED).

The tachometer (rpm gauge) does not worked on osciloscope, however if I tremble the contact on positve 12 volts, it shows me 1.000 rpm on cluster when I shake the rpm tacho wire on positive wire from cluster quickly, then I realize it is a 12 volts POSITIVE SQUARE pulse and my notebook sound card only is able to generate 5 voltz with precision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69rJYPlRloI

(THEN WE REALIZE THAT THE SPEEDOMETER GAUGE ON HONDA S2000 2006+ IS A SQUARE "NEGATIVE" SIGNAL OF AMPLITUDE OF 5 VOLTS.

S2000 TACHOMETER (RPM) SIGNAL IS 12 VOLTS "POSITVE" OF SQUARE WAVE, IT DOES NOT MATTER THE TH AND TL).

TH AND TL ARE THE DUTY CYCLE THAT THE PULSE WILL REMAIN UP AND DOWN.

The fuel gauge is a variation of "2.000 millivolts" signal of 50-100 milliampers as much low this voltage, it will show less bars light up on fuel cluster.

The wires I've checked almost all of them, almost all are normal wires with differences of some of them are positives and others negative, I will mention this wire per wire and step by step on my pdf manual once this study is finished.

NOTHING MADE THE COOLANT TEMPERATURE GAUGE MOVES UP AND DOWN, NONE SIGNAL SQUARE, SINE, TRIAGLE AND I BELIEVE ALSO THE PWM WILL NOT DO NOTHING AS WELL.

Then we conclude that definetely this coolant temp gauge works on "CANBUS OR OBD2 INTERFACE".

ONLY THE COOLANT TEMPERATURE WORKS IN THIS INTERFACE ALL THE OTHER SIGNALS ARE EASY TO CONVERT.

It is resting now the PWM SIGNAL to finish this idea, if PWM does not work at all, I will develop a "modchip" that will be installed inside the cluster like mod chip for consoles ... and then this will make the led bars up and down jumping the original "CANBUS OR OBD2" made from Japanese Engineers!!!!

I must admit Japanese People is very smart!!!!!

"DO YOU WANT A SCREW FOR THE CAR I SOLD YOU? COME TO ME!!!!!!!".

Now, lets go to next step, I will not have peace of mind until this cluster is not functional.

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

Please, any support how regarding the wires to temp gauge, i know already it is obd2 and canbus, where to begin?

I believe some good soul here will know this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M07K7hmq1Ww&feature=related

Where to get the ecu and cluster "WIRE DIAGRAM" information for this honda s2000 2007 cluster??? Any one has documents for this car????? WHAT KIND OF CAN ISO THIS S2000 2007 CLUSTER HAS?????

HONDA S2000 MODEL 2007 "CLUSTER AND ECU WIRING GUIDE DIAGRAM".

I NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT WIRES ARE THE K-LINES IN ORDER TO GO AHEAD WITH CONVERTION.

I must study them!!!! In order to make our plug and play ecu for dsm conversion.

OBD2 HAS A K-LINE, IS IT A SINGLE WIRE?

NOW CAN BUS NETWORK HAS TWO LINES WHERE IT COMMUNICATES, K-HIGH AND K-LOW.

IS THAT A PLACE WHERE I COULD FIND THE HONDA S2000 2007 WIRING GUIDE, SPECIALLY THE ONES THAT COMES FROM ECU TO CLUSTER ON HONDA S2000 2007 MODEL.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST STEP INTO K-BUS SIGNAL DECODER.

PLEASE, PLEASE AND PLEASE THE TIME IS TICKING!!!!! NO PROGRESS AT ALL ON COOLANT GAUGE TEMP!!!

LETS COLABORATE PLEASE!!!!!!

I AM SURE MANY PEOPLE WANTS THIS CLUSTER FUNCTIONAL ON THEIR DSM!!!!

I WILL DO A FULL CONVERTER PLUG AND PLAY AND MAKE THE LIFE OF PEOPLE EASIER WHEN WISHING TO INSTALL THIS S2000 AP2 2006+ CLUSTER, NO NEED TO KICK KNIFES, I AM KICKING ALL OF THEM!

Girardi knife kicker!!!

YouTube - Do You REALLY Know What LIN Is?

wOOOOOWWWW such a future technology, I think this PLUG AND PLAY ECM CONVERTER will be most hardest job I ever did into my entire life!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XPSGQCQBWs&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmfoB8tKp6M&feature=related

PLEASE, PEOPLE WATCH THIS VIDEOS EXPLAINING HOW THE DATA IS TRANSMITTED INTO THE COOLANT TEMP GAUGE IN THIS S2000 CLUSTER, ALSO THIS CLUSTER HAS AN SPECIAL OPTION CALLED OIL LIFE AND EXTERNAL TEMPERATURE INFORMATION.

(WHAT IS THE "ID CODE" FOR EXTERNAL TEMPERATURE IN THIS S2000 2007 CLUSTER?).

OIL LIFE IS A FUNCTION THAT WILL MONITOR ALL THE TEMPERATURE THAT HAPPENED TO ENGINE AND THE WORKED OURS DONE ALREADY AND IT WILL GIVE A PERCENTAGE %%%%%%% IN CLUSTER DISPLAY SHOWING THE OIL LIFE ACCUSING WHEN YOU NEED TO REPLACE YOUR S2000 OIL.

(WHAT ARE THE "ID CODE" AND FREQUENCY FOR OIL LIFE?)

The system works as this, it has a master chip that sends the information, this chip is located on s2000 ap2 engine "ECU", this microchip convert the analog signal input from the coolant temp sensor on s2000 engine into a pwm signal with "id" to open the port on cluster and then inject the frequency inside it.

Then once the cluster receives the imput "id" code, it open the ports for the pwm frequency and decodes it to the led-bar graph.

The s2000 ap2 2007 cluster has two wires white and black strip that I believe are the two k-lin for the 2 pieces of puzzle that is missing in this project (external temperature as the picture in this thread) and the temp gauge bar-graph.

Both wires are connected from wire into the master chip located on s2000 ecu that I dont have with me, it will send the "id" code and freq into this slave placed on cluster.

The cluster does not send information, it only receives information straight from the "ECU", and this information all has the "id code" and freq, in order to open the proper logic port.

IMPORTANT!!!!! THIS S2000 AP2 CLUSTER HAS ONLY THE COOLANT TEMP GAUGE AND EXTERNAL TEMPERATURE DISPLAY ON CAN-NETWORK.

Here we got an exemple how the cluster work, but make sure you understand that this s2000 2007 cluster works only the coolant temp gauge and external teperature information into this system.

YouTube - CAN-Bus-Test 1

Here we got a can bus analizer demonstration with the "id code sent to open the port".

YouTube - Microchip CAN BUS Analyzer Demonstration

ALL I NEED NOW:

FIRST OF ALL PLEASE, CONFIRM THE K-LINES WIRES FOR THIS CLUSTER!

1#ID CODE AND FREQUENCY FOR "TEMP GAUGE"
2#ID CODE AND FREQUENCY FOR "EXTERNAL TEMPERATURE"
3#ID CODE AND FREQUENCY FOR "OIL LIFE"

Once I got those information, then I will decide if it will be better on pic or eprom this project and I will build an eprom or pic interface for it.

THIS WILL BE USEFUL FOR MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORD, THEY WILL KNOW WHO IS EAGLE GIRARDI.

I am sure many people will be inspired by me, when this happen, please remeber to cheers me up!

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

it looks like all cars sold in united states must be ISO 15765-4 after 2008, but this cluster is 2007, any one has any idea about this?

OBD-II Diagnostic connector

ConnectorThe OBD-II specification provides for a standardized hardware interface—the female 16-pin (2x8) J1962 connector. Unlike the OBD-I connector, which was sometimes found under the hood of the vehicle, the OBD-II connector is required to be within 2 feet of the steering wheel (unless an exemption is applied for by the manufacturer, in which case it is still somewhere within reach of the driver). SAE J1962 defines the pinout of the connector as:

1.Manufacturer discretion. GM: J2411 GMLAN/SWC/Single-Wire CAN.
2.Bus positive Line of SAE-J1850 PWM and SAE-1850 VPW
3.Ford DCL(+) Argentina, Brazil (pre OBD-II) 1997-2000, Usa, Europe, etc.
4.Chassis ground
5.Signal ground
6.CAN high (ISO 15765-4 and SAE-J2284)
7.K line of ISO 9141-2 and ISO 14230-4
8.-
9.-
10.Bus negative Line of SAE-J1850 PWM only (not SAE-1850 VPW)
11.Ford DCL(-) Argentina, Brazil (pre OBD-II) 1997-2000, Usa, Europe, etc.
12.-
13.-
14.CAN low (ISO 15765-4 and SAE-J2284)
15.L line of ISO 9141-2 and ISO 14230-4
16.Battery voltage
The assignment of unspecified pins is left to the vehicle manufacturer's discretion.

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

Ok, here is the deal, somebody must to catch the signal sent to this cluster.

My idea is as following:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=109063&stc=1&d=1272579586

Somebody must check the resistance variation on this S2000 coolant sensor and install a potentiometer on place of this sensor and on cluster pwm can bus signal, connect an oscilloscope to sniff the signal variation and id to it, increasing and decreasing the potenciometer resistance to see what kind of signal it will be sniffed on can bus wires to cluster...

Then using this oscilloscope signal analizer on notebook sound card, it will be able to find out what signal comes to cluster.

PLEASE, IF YOU NEED TO FIND THE SOFTWARE TO MAKE YOUR NOTEBOOK AN OSCILLOSCOPE, PLEASE ASK ME!

Then with precision, we will be able to develop a pwm wave can bus signal with id code in order to make the temp gauge fully functional.

Now I will need the help of some enthusiast.

 

[turboawd420]

lookin good

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

What is the "iso can" and sae for honda s2000 2007 model cluster????

People, I am very sad now, as no people wants to collaborate with this project! I will stop putting messages and will close myself until finish this project, I developed everything already, and I am developing the software that will come inside this stuff.

It will be finished in a couple of weeks; this will take time, until I catch the "ID CODE" for temp Gauge on "BRUTE FORCE". As no one could help me with that simple information's.

Everything I need to know is:

WHAT IS THE "ID CODE" FOR THE INPUT LOGIC CAN RECEIVER???

I will give here the last post before stop this thread.

Resumed by me:

Can Bus Networks, work like mail boxes transmitters and mail box receivers, mail boxes transmitters, transmit all the car information on vehicle network on full can network of 1mbps, thus all receivers receive only the messages that they are programmed to receive, (ID CODE).

When the temp gauge receives the (ID CODE), it analyzes the error codes, (if it is on pre-determined range of data and then once the receiver checked this information it decides how many led-bars to turn on.

All this happens in a speed of 1mbps and very quickly, then any variation in this messages with id and information, it will light on bar-graph on cluster coolant temp, the oil life function and external temperature works pretty the same.

Except instead of lighting led-bars, it will receive the ready information from s2000 2006+ Engine ECU in regards what show on display functions on oil life% and external temperature.

I am really sad; all I got was a bump from a nice Fellow Christian Buddy.

God bless us all and never forget the Messiah Jesus Christ, please contact me on private if any info found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odju5vwvK54

 

[piroman]

Generate this signal for ECT: 30ms high and for example 600ms low square wave. Check any change of temperature gauge...

What's the software are you use for generate signals to test?

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

Generate this signal for ECT: 30ms high and for example 600ms low square wave. Check any change of temperature gauge...

What's the software are you use for generate signals to test?

The software is called Visual Analizer, and you can download it straight from their website here:

Download

I WILL TRY YOUR STUFF BUDDY!!!!!! THANKS VERY MUCH, CHEERS I LOVE YOU IN THE LAW OF CHRIST!!!!!!!

Generate this signal for ECT: 30ms high and for example 600ms low square wave. Check any change of temperature gauge...

What's the software are you use for generate signals to test?

Dude, I've tested it, but it does not work at all!!!!! like I mentioned, it wont work! unless we find out what is the "ID CODE" for the logic input!!!!

Here goes a link how to debug a can bus.

http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5989-5049EN.pdf

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

Here we got the structure of a inside canbus dataframe.


IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ANY KIND OF WAVE TO WORK IN THIS CLUSTER WITHOUT THE RETRICTION, "ID CODE" (HEADER) AND REST OF IT.

NOW DEFINETELY THE GREEDY COMPANIES GOT A WAY TO MAKE USELESS CAR-PARTS IF THEY DONT SHARE THE INFORMATION FOR US.

Please world, you that have money, do not buy honda cars on can bus network, if everyone refuse to buy it, the factories will stop with this greedy issues or they will reveal those information for us.


Greddy, greedy, greedy!!!!!!

http://www.semiconductors.bosch.de/pdf/can2spec.pdf

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

Finally we understand ... They want to force you to not use anything out a car, they want to complicate your life and they want to make you enthuiast to buy expensive stupid and useless equipment to spend months of stressfull work, because they dont want you to progress, resuming they want you to drive a beatle.

Boycott boycott boycott boycott boycott boycott honda cars and any company that uses this kind of shit.

Boycott boycott honda cars in this can bus network system

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

Good news Brave Heart people of this forum!

After days and days of reseraches and hundreds of virus, softwares that does not work at all and many wrong information, I got the solution for that, it is the first step into deconding and finding exactly what we are looking for, remember?

We need:

#1 Coolant temperature "id code" and data for coolant temperature gauge
#2 External display temperature "id code" and data
#3 Oil life display "id code" and data.

With this video, it shows that it is possible to decode the messages sent on can bus network, from can bus signal.

Now the next step will be to find out the "id codes" to can bus logic input and the "databytes variation" that in this case will be necessary to light up the coolant temperature on bar-graph, oil life and external temperature display.

I found this software, but I believe it will have some free software in order for we decode the can bus signal in a honda s2000 2006+ can bus interface system.

YouTube - Serial Decoding in PicoScope

Also, once based in this software I will be able to create a software that will do the exactly job we need using only our "notebook soundcard" or if it needs a high definition "sound card" then we can order a "pcmcia" high performance sound card and scan, decode the signals one by one.

I am sure it was a long road of knifes, I am still bleeding my feets, now lets move ahead next step.

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

I found with precision that the white black strip, "b8" is the can bus network wire!!!!

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

This forum is being forwarded to honda-tech forum as I got "ZZZZZZZEEEEEERRRRRRRROOOOOO" relevant information in this thread.

s2000 ap2 coolant gauge k-lin converter - Honda-Tech

Then I will not post NOTHING AT ALL INTO THIS THREAD ANYMORE! I AM TIRED TO POST DOUBLE INFO AND NO RELEVANT INFORMATION AT ALL, REGARDING THIS PROJECT, I GOT MORE ANSWERS ON HONDA-TECH FORUMS.

 

[Rocketman1000R]

Man this is good stuff. how long does it take to install?

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

Man this is good stuff. how long does it take to install?

sorry dude, I will not answer anymore this thread!!! I got ZERO ANSWER, so I am forwarding this pjoject into the link of honda-tech.

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

Good Job what you are doing and investing all this time. I for one don't understand a lot of this, therefor I cannot offer any help.
Much help was not offered here and sorry for that, perhaps a lot of people or not really interested in doing this swap?
Honda-tech has not been much help either.
Good Luck with your research.

 

[Guzman08]

ok. good luck bro

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

Good Job what you are doing and investing all this time. I for one don't understand a lot of this, therefor I cannot offer any help.
Much help was not offered here and sorry for that, perhaps a lot of people or not really interested in doing this swap?
Honda-tech has not been much help either.
Good Luck with your research.

I am recovering some problems then I am investing this time to make this project!

http://www.honda-tech.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127469&stc=1&d=1273030598

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

What is the s2000 ap2 year 2007 can-bus ect coolant data frame value?

Man this is good stuff. how long does it take to install?

As the more perceptive you realized, you can see here, there is no answer! it looks like nobody knows how a can bus data frame works internally and have no information at all for we finish this project, then all I must to do is to re-fresh my mind waiting relevant information, I am tired to try hundreds of things that does not work at all, all I need is the data-frame "ID CODE" for me to finish my stuff, I open hand from oil life ... if I just get what kind of sort code the "coolant temp data frame" works in this can-bus network project, then I will be very happy to finish this project.

Also, the external temperature does not work on canbus like I was thinking, after some strong test diagnoses, I found that it has a thermistor (temp sensor on s2000 2006+ front bumper) this thermistor catch the signal and send to two wires from this cluster that I am still patiently waiting to snatch this white soul.

It is good to inform here that I've ordered the full manual from honda s2000 from year 2000 to 2008 "PAYING THE PRICE" and the wires on cluster is confused and does not mention nothing at all in regards what kind of data frame it needs to operate the cluster.

I see here a very "hidden" technology, hidden resources in this car projects that information should be free, only some "mafia" engineers are choosed to have those information, honda refuse to give you any iformation and just ignore you on every call you make to them.

HOW CAN SOME ONE TEST THIS CLUSTER WITHOUT ALL THE NECESSARY INFORMATION FOR WE DIAGNOSE A PROBLEM? HONDA CHOOSE WHAT INFO THEY WILL REVEAL FOR TECHNICIANS IN ORDER TO FORCE THE CUSTOMERS TO PAY A VERY HIGH PRICE IN THEIR WORKSHOP!!!

THIS IS THE TRUTH!

 

[96gstdsm]

Nice work. Many of us with S2000's want to get rid of the digital tach for an analog and those with analog want the digital one haha.
Hate not having a needle sweeping up when accelerating. Especially for video's showing acceleration. Never looks fast with the digital tach unfortunately.

 

[Gamble97]

So this is going nowhere then?

 

[ramsack]

Honda did nothing wrong. This cluster was made to work with the s2000, not a DSM. I doubt you will get any info from them, and if you do, it will be in Japanese talk. They have every right to make it closed source. They created it, they paid to R&D it. Just because something isn't open source doesn't mean it is evil. Would you expect to be able to call up Mitsubishi and ask them for the code on their ECU? Aside from the point that it's already been ripped and pretty figured out.

 

[skatershawn]

^^ Very true... and to get mad and pissy with this forums because we no nothing about how a honda s2000's gauge cluster works is not needed! Its not our fault!
Im sorry you throw many hours of you time to try this and have falling short of completion but it was a good run!
Maybe someday you will find the info you need and you will finish this!
In till then, im sorry, but good work!!

 

[Eagle_Phoenix]

I want to infomr that another complete forum is being used for this project, however, honda is so greedy that day does not even inform what wire lines are responsible for interface communication betwen this cluster and the ecu.

However, I am almost to the point to open my cluster and with a multimiter, find out what voltage makes the bargraph to move up and down and then cut tracks and make mod with a smal electric wire.

Then take pictures and help people here in this forum, I am sure that there is many people trying to make this cluster fully funcional and never will have money to waste in a s2000 ap2 honda on canbus bod2 technology that when a bulb is burnt, the car must be sent to greedy honda.



s2000 ap2 coolant gauge k-lin converter - Page 5 - Honda-Tech

Can someone tell me how many pulses per km\h does a 2g mitsubishi eclipse (eagle talon) 4g63 engine 1995 has?

I mean, honda cluster works with 28 pulses per 1 km\h, then how many pulses does an eclipse needs to 1-km\h???

I've heard something about 4 pulses per 1km\h, but other people told me 8 and some other 16, can some one tell me with precision how many pulses?

 

[dalesmitsu]

Looks cool, reminds of the high dollar digital racepak cluster.