[RESOLVED] A/T 1g pilot bushing question <resolved>

[acidflux]

I cant tell either way if my car needs a pilot bushing or not from my searches in the forums. I'm pretty sure it does, so I've been searching for hours and I cant seem to find one anywhere online, with the exception of STM, but theirs is listed for the 2g.

Help??

This part is for you to laugh at:

I bought the car with a shortblock bolted to a tranny, rags stuffed into the cylinders, and everything else missing. Imagine building an engine/car off of ebay. You wouldnt believe how many trips to the hardware store ive had to make in frustration at not having any bolts for anything. There needs to be more bolt kits out there so poor suckers like me arent stuck trying to figure out each and every bolt by trial and error.

At any rate, I'm hoping I can unbolt the crossmember under the tranny and undo all the other bs attatched to it and just slide it out far enough to slip the bushing in, if one is supposed to go in there. It seemed like an awful lot of clearance to me.

This is a 7-bolt btw (yes i rebuilt it before i slapped parts onto it).

I think I would have noticed a bushing had I reused the original crank, but it was chewed up from too much thrust-play so I got a new one and the engine shop tossed the old one, which probably had the bushing in it.

If you have no part to install, how do you know if you need one or not? The car is together and almost ready to run... and now I probably have to rip half of it apart again.

Any input? I could use some love, this talon is going to break my spirit.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

I'm not sure about the seven bolt crank, but when I installed my six bolt engine, I had to remove a somewhat large adapter ring from the back of the crank before I could put my manual flywheel onto it. It looked so much like it was part of the crank, that when I went to install my flywheel, I thought I built the wrong engine.

I was so upset I felt like I was going to die. I looked a little closer, grabbed a slide hammer, and was elated when this big ring that sandwiches between the crank and flexplate poped off of there.

If I were you, I would go to a Mitsu dealer and look at the exploded view. If the seven bolt takes that part too, it probably won't cost you that much.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

Here's a drawing of the seven bolt crank:

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If you don't have that ridge that centers the flexplate, then you are missing the adapter plate. Your flexplate bolts would appear to be exessively long too.

 

[acidflux]

I noticed that drawing was for a 2g. Is that stuff compatible with a 1g? I have a 1994 talon with the 1g-7bolt combo. Stupid franken-motor.

I hope someone else can offer some insight into this, or more importantly, where to get one of those bushing/spacers/adapters/whatevers. Cant find one anywhere, which leads me to pray that MAYBE I dont need one. I wish I knew for sure though.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

My 1g 6 bolt had one, and the 7 bolt 2g in the diagram has one, and your stuff doesn't look like it lines up correctly right? I'll leave you to draw your own conclusion.

Ps. Keep in mind, I built my whole engine, had the crank balanced, and installed a new rear main seal, but never noticed this piece on the back of the crank until I tried to install my manual flywheel. It's steel, and looks like part of the crank. I wouldn't be at all suprized if you tossed it with you old crank.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/278478-flexplate-spacer.html?highlight=flexplate+spacer

 

[acidflux]

Good find, thanks!! I do have the spacer that goes around the outside of the crank, my flexplate is tight. I just figured the stub on the end of the torque converter was piloted into the crank via a bushing, instead of just sitting there loose.

I think i'll call it good to go then.

 

[badas93tsi]

There is supposed to be a bushing in the crank. JNZ, or AMS can get them for you.

 

[acidflux]

*sigh* I suspected that could be the case. Thanks for having an informative answer and a correct answer.

 

[acidflux]

MD756767 is the part number for the bushing.

AMS has them here
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