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[Moonlight GSX]

A nice replacement for something most, if not all, of us have removed.

 

[miliman13]

It rained over night

silly me…

My sun roof is leaking

I get to gut the interior now ………
Yaiiiiiiiiiiiii


She has been garaged for years so it makes sense why I never saw water until recent - now that she is mobile.

 

[jesse12345]

Maybe the drain tubes are clogged? Mine were really bad I had to blow them out with air. I hate messing with the sunroof. I can't even open mine without it giving me fits.

 

[Justin DuBois]

Maybe the drain tubes are clogged? Mine were really bad I had to blow them out with air. I hate messing with the sunroof. I can't even open mine without it giving me fits.

yeah - its a mechanical death trap. x2 on tubes. The seal on the glass to the hole in the roof is supposed to prevent this, and the tubes should drain when the seal fails.

 

[miliman13]

Yeah I can see the seal fails along the front corners…

Started to peal it off to inspect and it’s ugly lots of water has made its way in, on the inside of the seal…… making the lip of the glass look terrible : In some spots.

215$ dollars with import fees Is what a new OEM seal cost just me, ordered it from Japan

Glad I caught this when I did, time would have destroyed the car like this…

 

[miliman13]

Removed all the rust/ pitting from the floors and tried to match the color some

Still working on the concept of having a removable trunk, need to get more latches and try to close the gap on one corner.

Also cutting up the center brace to remove the rusted metal so I can weld it back.

I don’t plan on putting a spare tire in here, but I would like to put the windshield wiper tank back in its place and also eliminate all the road noise from having an open hole .

I also like the idea of using this open space to place a small modest subwoofer

 

[Justin DuBois]

A removable trunk floor is a first for me. I’ve seen removed floors to accommodate racing fuel cells. Never seen this idea.

 

[miliman13]

The sunroof seal arrived, but before changing it out I wanted to sit in the car with the bare interior to conduct a rain test, using a garden hose.

The results were not as expected.

I was not able to find any rust or water stains running from the roof, it was not until I was in car and realized the car is leaking from several locations.

Roof does leak I could feel water and debris running across my fingers when I place then into the pan, and one corner was clogged but just moving my fingers around the drain in the pan unclogged it.

Water is getting into the trunk from the rear taillight assembly, and the body panels directly above that.

Water is getting into both sides by the corner windows

And In thru the windshield

This sucks but I’m glad I was able to identify all the issues, I’ll have to add some black RTV or window weld on the outer top region of windshield and the in/out of the corners, maybe the rear assembly too.

A long time ago when painting car I ripped the outer edge of the glass trim, I currently have this in its place, so it will be easy to address the windshield.

This car would have been dead and rusted out in those 8 yrs of sitting if not for being garaged.

 

[Moonlight GSX]

Poor thing, but she is getting the love now.

 

[jesse12345]

Man I need that sunroof shade!

 

[miliman13]

So I replaced the sun roof seal
Haven’t tested it against water yet.

I used RTV along the perimeter of the glass to fill in the air gap in the seal and to prevent water from leaking past again.

I have also been grinding/ sand blasting and repairing the rust on the corner of the trunk due to bad tail light seals.

I also went bought some supplies to remove the two quarter glass

Got it off, only to find the surprise

Yaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

 

[jesse12345]

Bro tell me how you got those rear quarters out?!? Mines half way out but I can't seem to get the back side out. I have everything to get them out. Its been fighting me so i gave up for awhile. I'm sorry to see all that rust, I never thought I'd see that on a Florida car. That will definitely leave water in the car.

 

[miliman13]

Bro tell me how you got those rear quarters out?!? Mines half way out but I can't seem to get the back side out. I have everything to get them out. Its been fighting me so i gave up for awhile. I'm sorry to see all that rust, I never thought I'd see that on a Florida car. That will definitely leave water in the car.

So I used an oscillating tool, with windshield removal blades and scrapers

Don’t use them from the inside of car, this will damage the seal. I caught this before I could do more damage.

And the real tool is a paint opener or metal scraper/ spatula along with a rubber mallet to force it between the body and glass, this is what seperates it.

I was able to remove the glass without any real damage to it or the seal.

 

[miliman13]

Can anyone confirm if they know the gauge of metal the body panels use ?!

I know it’s not 16 that was for structural, like the seat mount brackets.

 

[1cleangsx]

Hey man I see your from Florida! I’m a native Floridiot myself , born in Jacksonville I grew up in Orange Park, been in Wyoming since 2005 and I love it here, low humidity , I’m sorry about the rust, you’ve got a good lookin 2g there, in regards to your leaky sunroof that’s the #1 reason I’m thankful my 1g doesn’t have one , anyways man good luck with your project! These cars are definitely a LOVE/HATE relationship but I think they’re timeless, you really never see them on the road anymore, I wish you the best with yours and keep wrenchin’

 

[jesse12345]

Can anyone confirm if they know the gauge of metal the body panels use ?!

I know it’s not 16 that was for structural, like the seat mount brackets.

I can confirm tonight for you if you haven't already figured it out. I just used a caliper to measure but I can't seem to remember what it was at the moment.

I was going to say also with how rusty the sunroof frame is I used por15 on mine before putting the new seal on. It was just an added extra to keep the rust at a minimum. Just thought I'd throw that out there for you. Your giving my rusty rs a run for its money at the moment. I hate rust so if there's anything a guy needs just let me know.

 

[miliman13]

Hey man I see your from Florida! I’m a native Floridiot myself , born in Jacksonville I grew up in Orange Park, been in Wyoming since 2005 and I love it here, low humidity , I’m sorry about the rust, you’ve got a good lookin 2g there, in regards to your leaky sunroof that’s the #1 reason I’m thankful my 1g doesn’t have one , anyways man good luck with your project! These cars are definitely a LOVE/HATE relationship but I think they’re timeless, you really never see them on the road anymore, I wish you the best with yours and keep wrenchin’

Thank you kindly

I can confirm tonight for you if you haven't already figured it out. I just used a caliper to measure but I can't seem to remember what it was at the moment.

Same it’s just a lill hard to check with so many layers of sheet metal joined in tight lill corners , all of the stores have 16,22,26 and 30 gauge.

So it looks like it’s gonna have to be 22……

Was hoping for 20, but no one has.

And thank you !!!

 

[Moonlight GSX]

Try online at Metals Depot, they are good enough for aircraft stuff.

 

[miliman13]

So I’m playing hide and seek with rust
It’s so much fun ……..

Cut/welded/grinded 22 gauge patch to match existing metal.

I keep finding small isolated spots were rust/ pitting occurs, obviously from the leaks.

Under hatch had to peel metal back to get to all the rust. Sand blaster is a life safer for those hard to reach spots

Also I noticed the right quarter panel looks slightly separated from the body so I pulled back the edges to clear out any rust and re- seal.

I suspect a previous accident, one side seems to have aftermarket seam sealer too. All fixed


i also got a new windshield for free from insurance no deductible due to the state FL
(Had a crack and possibly leaked)

So because I’m doing so much patch work that requires damaging the terrible paint job I did 12 yrs ago.

I’ve decided to do a semi restore
Gonna shoot the jams , inside , outside and under belly. - Yai

So I invested in 4x large heavy duty jack stands, these were the only way to use jack stands at this min height and still maintain good stability.

I bought these for 2 reasons:

1) I need this to lower lift so I can move the arms out of the way since I need to access the rust under the side skirts.

2) Even tho the lift is supposed to be enough to hold car up, I have trust issues.
And I’m not willing to take the risk. In fact all these years I’ve had the lift I refuse to really get under neath comfortably because I have internet access and I’ve seen the videos !!!

I can see the small surface rust clearly Now.

I really don’t want to do any of this at all, but here we are.

@jesse12345
Tell/show me more about the por15
I was considering this

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due to some negatives I’ve heard about the finish on some of these under belly solutions but I’m also concerned about trapping in moisture with the rubberized stuff.

 

[jesse12345]

Man your really dialed in. I need to invest in a sandblaster asap holy that looks good. Those mega Jack's also look like something I need. Your giving me some great ideas to make my project easier.

As for the por15, I painted all under my gsx with that stuff and it stops the rust. You just brush it on any surface rust that you want covered. It's super messy and dries out fast so make sure to clean the lid otherwise it becomes one with the can. Also make sure you clean the surface from any grease or oil because if you don't the por15 will straight up peal off like a sheet of plastic.

 

[miliman13]

Man your really dialed in. I need to invest in a sandblaster asap holy that looks good. Those mega Jack's also look like something I need. Your giving me some great ideas to make my project easier.

As for the por15, I painted all under my gsx with that stuff and it stops the rust. You just brush it on any surface rust that you want covered. It's super messy and dries out fast so make sure to clean the lid otherwise it becomes one with the can. Also make sure you clean the surface from any grease or oil because if you don't the por15 will straight up peal off like a sheet of plastic.

Thanks

But I’m very much against leaving any rust anywhere so a product ment to go over it is……….. idk is it waxy?

And I’m happy to hear your considering picking up some of the things I’m using

The blaster is a cheap one with the lill tank on top I use a hose to feed the top which I bored to allow more sand in

And yeah those jacks apparently are for 18 wheelers.

 

[jesse12345]

It's pretty much paint. You brush it on and it dries really hard. I wire wheeled all the rust off my car and then just slapped that on. I'm with you I can't leave rust anywhere but if you want that's really what it's mean for, to stop rust.

After seeing you use one on your car it'll make my life way easier. I was just going to wire wheel and use a sander but it gets tiring and takes forever.

I appreciate the ideas. This stuff will help me alot.

 

[miliman13]

started tapping and poking around with a screwdriver on the rockers which didn’t have any holes in them

And this was the result, looks like a small amount of rust…….

The driver side

Passenger side

Once you start cutting you realize everything is a lie…….

Driver side looks ok, cut until all the rust is gone

But the passenger side ………

Unlike the driver side I could tell by looking in the cavity that rust had spread more

Which required a bit more cutting, fortunately the rust is on the surface of the 16 gauge structural frame rails. So far it’s just replacing the layers of 20-22 gauge.

I’ve been using this puller to pull down dents on the rockers and in the underbody rails that no will ever see.

Next is more sandblasting (got a new gun with extensions to work comfortably under car)

Primer/ paint and penetrating oil to reach all the secret cavities.

 

[jesse12345]

Dang it just keeps growing. Keep up the awesome work. It's crazy to think a Florida car could end up like that, I thought only northern cars did that.
I'm currently in the middle of cutting my car in half and welding up the other one. I'm over rust and damage. Might as well just chop it instead of trying to puzzle piece it all together, lots of puzzle pieces too.

 

[miliman13]

Dang it just keeps growing. Keep up the awesome work. It's crazy to think a Florida car could end up like that, I thought only northern cars did that.
I'm currently in the middle of cutting my car in half and welding up the other one. I'm over rust and damage. Might as well just chop it instead of trying to puzzle piece it all together, lots of puzzle pieces too.

yeah I know the struggle, I very strongly suspect this could stem from the quarter glass, I can see the water stains that come from the quarter glass that pour down to the rockers I’m working on, the rust maybe isn’t ALL from the glass but it really looks that way.