Rear Sway bar and Rear Camber setup question

[James Bond]

Quick question.

Who makes the biggest rear sway bar for my 1G (1992 TSI)


Who makes a rear adjustable camber setup for my 1g? I figure since the rears are multilink that they use "crash bolts" or Slop bolts?

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by James Bond
Quick question.

Who makes the biggest rear sway bar for my 1G (1992 TSI)


Who makes a rear adjustable camber setup for my 1g? I figure since the rears are multilink that they use "crash bolts" or Slop bolts?

Ok I found the answer to my second question. For search purposes or if anyone else was also wondering here is the link

http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/38420.htm

 

[Ludachris]

Originally posted by James Bond
Quick question.

Who makes the biggest rear sway bar for my 1G (1992 TSI)


Who makes a rear adjustable camber setup for my 1g? I figure since the rears are multilink that they use "crash bolts" or Slop bolts?

I believe the RMDSM swaybar is the largest... but am not positive. I have one on my car.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/parts/product_info.php?cPath=2_148_46&products_id=93

As for the rear camber, there is also a kit from TabooSpeedShop which extends the upper rear control arms:
http://www.taboospeedshop.com

 

[James Bond]

Thanks much Ludachris

 

[jtmcinder]

The RM swaybar for a 1G is 15/16" while the SuspTech bar is 1". Might not sound like a lot, but given that stiffness is proportional to the fourth power of diameter, this is almost a 25% difference.

- Jtoby

 

[James Bond]

Can someone tell me how big my stock front bar is? Its probably way to big like most factory cars.

If you cant already tell Im trying to get my car to swing a bit more, the understeer is killing me.

Once I get my GC/KONI combo on this week (500rear/450front) Im sure it will feel a great deal better. Ill probably run -2.5' camber in the front to get it to bite.

Anyone just take off there front bar all together ? (we do this in our front drivers/hondas)

 

[GreenGSX]

Before you talk suspension, first thing to do is to tell us what you plan to do with the car. Looking at those spring rates I would say your building a track only road racer? For the purpose of discussion, I will assume you mean autocrossing or a mix of the two.

Here is a link to a really good 1G AWD set-up.

http://www.wincom.net/trog/autocross/1G_SM.html

Setting your car up like Mike at DSS does will result in a car that has excellent turn-in and oversteer. To get the most predicable oversteer you can your going to have to keep some things in mind. First, the 1G AWD cars are for the most part always set-up way to stiff in the back. In order for you to run -1 degree of negative camber in the back your going to have lower your spring rates, select a softer shock (Koni not AGX), and you're going to have to weld up the rear dynamic toe adjuster. You can get by without those considerations but you'll end up with a car that isn't predicable when the pavement gets ruff. What I've done is to add negative camber to the back to make my car more predicable but that has taken away some of the oversteer that we all like.

Don't hessitate to call any of the shops out there. I know Mike at DSS has done great things with 1G AWD cars and is fact a sponser of this site.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/partners/

 

[Ludachris]

Originally posted by jtmcinder
The RM swaybar for a 1G is 15/16" while the SuspTech bar is 1". Might not sound like a lot, but given that stiffness is proportional to the fourth power of diameter, this is almost a 25% difference.

- Jtoby

Ah yes, your are correct. I now remember why I went for the RM - I had heard a few cases in which the ST bar had fitment issues with the Thermal 3" exhaust, which is what I have.

 

[GreenGSX]

Originally posted by jtmcinder
The RM swaybar for a 1G is 15/16" while the SuspTech bar is 1". Might not sound like a lot, but given that stiffness is proportional to the fourth power of diameter, this is almost a 25% difference.

- Jtoby

That holds true only if the both the materials and tempering are the same.

 

[MNGSX]

It also depends on the length of the bar arms...

The ST front bar I have has three positons... The shorter the effective lenght of the bar arm the stiffer it behaves.

I don't know why they did'nt do it on the rear?

 

[jtmcinder]

Originally posted by MNGSX
It also depends on the length of the bar arms...

The ST front bar I have has three positons... The shorter the effective lenght of the bar arm the stiffer it behaves.

I don't know why they did'nt do it on the rear?

Because the rear links are too short.

- Jtoby

 

[MNGSX]

So use longer links....