Prosport EVO WB with DSMLink

[AK Maniak]

I've done quite a bit of searching and have only found a few results but they were all fairly old. I know everyone is going to suggest to get an LC-1 and I still might end up getting it. I just wanted to know if anyone has succesfully used the Prosport EVO WB with DSMLink.
From what I've read the LC-1 has a Bosch LSU 4.2 o2 Sensor and the Prosport has the Bosch LSU4.9 will that cause any issues?
Another issue that I saw was that the old Prosport WB gauges only had a 3.5v output but now the EVO's have a 0-5v output so that should negate that issue unless there is something I am missing.

The ricer in me really wants matching gauges and I've researched this topic to death. Any input is welcome. One last noob question: If I get an LC-1 will that work with any WB Guage?

 

[dsmcrzy]

I can't say about link but the prosport evo wb works flawlessly with my megasquirt.

 

[sincitydru]

I was about a month away from asking this same question. I'm changing all the amber lighting on the dash to red led and I like the EVO red digital gauges and how you can set how bright you want them to be.

 

[vingasoline]

I have my prosport WB set up as lc1 and it works fine. You might want to stay away from the evo gauges though. IMO they suck, you can't see them during the day.

 

[AK Maniak]

I have my prosport WB set up as lc1 and it works fine. You might want to stay away from the evo gauges though. IMO they suck, you can't see them during the day.

Just for clarification; you are running a prosport wideband and logging with link just fine?

 

[vingasoline]

Yes logging in link just fine. Number on gauge matches number in link

 

[GSLENK]

Im another running the prosport WB gauge (not evo version) off of the lc1 with link logging. works fine for me.

 

[AK Maniak]

I emailed Prosport and was told that the only gauge that will work with the LC1 is Digital Air Fuel Ratio Gauge
Does anyone have a picture of that gauge actually mounted in their car?

 

[Scoobystyl]

The best way to set up the prosport wideband with link is to select linear wideband, then mess with the voltage til it reads in link the exact same as the gauge i have mine set at 1.38 i believe

 

[91stocker]

I emailed Prosport and was told that the only gauge that will work with the LC1 is Digital Air Fuel Ratio Gauge
Does anyone have a picture of that gauge actually mounted in their car?

I just posted up my gauge install here a couple of days ago. Not sure what all your looking for as far as pics. I plan on putting up some daytime vs nighttime visibility shots soon. Maybe a video.

There wasnt much interest in the thread so i've been putting it off .

 

[AK Maniak]

I just posted up my gauge install here a couple of days ago. Not sure what all your looking for as far as pics. I plan on putting up some daytime vs nighttime visibility shots soon. Maybe a video.

There wasnt much interest in the thread so i've been putting it off .

I just wanted to see how it looks in action. I really like the look of the Evo's but I don't want to get the Evo wideband if it won't work well with link. I might end up just filling my three A pillar slots with the Evos and put my wideband on the steering column or something. Are there any other gauges that are full digital displays kind of like the Evo's that don't break the bank?

 

[AK Maniak]

For those that have the Evo WB, does the kit have an isolated sensor ground circuit for the 0-5v analog or does it simply have a single chassis ground?

 

[91stocker]

Here's the wiring diagram.

http://prosportgauges.com/instructions/evogw/EVO-RED-BLUE-WIDEBAND-INSTRUCTIONS.pdf

It appears it does? Has a separate ground on the analog harness. Then another for the controller harness.


If i can figure out my boost leak issue by this weekend, i will be comparing the numbers from the prosport to a lm-1 with a new sensor that was also checked against a F.A.S.T system from a local tuner that uses two sensors.

The lm-1 and the two sensors of the F.A.S.T system all were spot on accurate and matched each other. So it should give a real good idea on how accurate the prosport is.

But so far, the prosport display matches the logs perfectly.

 

[AK Maniak]

Here's the wiring diagram.

http://prosportgauges.com/instructions/evogw/EVO-RED-BLUE-WIDEBAND-INSTRUCTIONS.pdf

It appears it does? Has a separate ground on the analog harness. Then another for the controller harness.


If i can figure out my boost leak issue by this weekend, i will be comparing the numbers from the prosport to a lm-1 with a new sensor that was also checked against a F.A.S.T system from a local tuner that uses two sensors.

The lm-1 and the two sensors of the F.A.S.T system all were spot on accurate and matched each other. So it should give a real good idea on how accurate the prosport is.

But so far, the prosport display matches the logs perfectly.

I'll keep my fingers crossed haha. I really hope that the Evo WB is accurate because I can't suppress my inner ricer enough to get gauges that don't match. Please post your results or PM me as I am very interested.

So unless I misread it this Evo WB does have two analog outputs just like the LC-1?

 

[91stocker]

I'll keep my fingers crossed haha. I really hope that the Evo WB is accurate because I can't suppress my inner ricer enough to get gauges that don't match. Please post your results or PM me as I am very interested.

Yea same here haha, i had to have the matching set, even though everyone advised me to go with what works and get the lc-1.

I will post as much info i can get from the comparison. I suppose i could run the hand unit into the car temporarily and get some cruise info. I had planned on writing up a big review on this gauge with the comparison info and some pics, but i've been putting that off too .

So unless I misread it this Evo WB does have two analog outputs just like the LC-1?

It has two outputs, one is the 0-5v wideband and the other is the 0-1v narrowband output.

 

[Nekid]

The Evo WB gauge can be used with the LC1. I got the same 'no you can't use it' mumble-jumbo when I asked. The LC1 then can be programmed to make sure the gauge is reading correctly.

I believe I can still find my notes, but what I did was power on the wideband unit with an old computer power supply, then I probed the connections to ground. With that, I found out on the gauge what each pin is - ground, signal, power, dimmer, etc... I happened to have an appropriate harness from my old glowshift WB hanging around, so I cut that in half, hooked up the power wires, and wired in the LC1 0-5v signal to the signal pin.

It doesn't give you the same functionality as if you had the prosport controller hooked up to it (error codes, the warmup pacing, etc...) but as far as reading and displaying what the LC1 is seeing, flawless when adjusted correctly.

one thing to note, and this is how I burnt out my glowshift wideband, but the gauge wiring harness is a crossover cable...when you compare ends, the colours reverse. One end is, for example, 'red, brown, green, white, blue' the other end would be 'blue, white, green, brown, red' when looking at the exact same orientation. What I did was use the wrong end that I did my testing on and matched the colours to the wires. In short, black wasn't ground on the end I used, but was black on the end I did my testing on.

ps. the person answering the emails for Prosport doesn't know the technical workings of the products he is selling, or if he does, doesn't want you to know it. There is a post on NASIOC of a disgruntled former employee which was a hoot to read, but provided some insights. Not everything the employee said was "accurate" but paints a very interesting picture when you filter out the truths from the mis-truths.

edit: my only two bitches about the Evo series is: no adjustment for the boost gauge (elevation adjustment) and flat glass.

 

[AK Maniak]

The Evo WB gauge can be used with the LC1. I got the same 'no you can't use it' mumble-jumbo when I asked. The LC1 then can be programmed to make sure the gauge is reading correctly.

I believe I can still find my notes, but what I did was power on the wideband unit with an old computer power supply, then I probed the connections to ground. With that, I found out on the gauge what each pin is - ground, signal, power, dimmer, etc... I happened to have an appropriate harness from my old glowshift WB hanging around, so I cut that in half, hooked up the power wires, and wired in the LC1 0-5v signal to the signal pin.

It doesn't give you the same functionality as if you had the prosport controller hooked up to it (error codes, the warmup pacing, etc...) but as far as reading and displaying what the LC1 is seeing, flawless when adjusted correctly.

one thing to note, and this is how I burnt out my glowshift wideband, but the gauge wiring harness is a crossover cable...when you compare ends, the colours reverse. One end is, for example, 'red, brown, green, white, blue' the other end would be 'blue, white, green, brown, red' when looking at the exact same orientation. What I did was use the wrong end that I did my testing on and matched the colours to the wires. In short, black wasn't ground on the end I used, but was black on the end I did my testing on.

ps. the person answering the emails for Prosport doesn't know the technical workings of the products he is selling, or if he does, doesn't want you to know it. There is a post on NASIOC of a disgruntled former employee which was a hoot to read, but provided some insights. Not everything the employee said was "accurate" but paints a very interesting picture when you filter out the truths from the mis-truths.

edit: my only two bitches about the Evo series is: no adjustment for the boost gauge (elevation adjustment) and flat glass.

Thanks for the info. I am hoping the Evo WB because from what i've seen you can't buy the Evo AFR gauge by it self as the only way to get it is when purchasing the whole kit. If I could buy it separately I would just get that gauge and use the LC-1.

I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst. If the Evo WB doesn't work I suppose i'll just fork out another 180 for the LC-1; I just don't want to have to buy two widebands and waste nearly 200 dollars.

 

[Nekid]

I originally had a glowshift wideband in my car, but it didn't have an analog output to wire into the ECU for logging. I then bought a LC-1 for logging purposes and kept the glowshift gauge. Rewired my car and I grabbed the wrong end of the glowshift harness I cut and cooked the gague. Decided to go with the EVO because, as you said, they don't break the bank, look pretty, and they match with my interior lights (soft green glow).

I got fed the same line that only their controller works with the gauge, and didn't get a response when I asked what makes the signal from the controller to the gauge so different that it doesn't work, is it not simply a 0-5v signal? In essence, it is a bit more because there is a way it communicates with the gauge to display errors, the warm-up circle, etc... but as far as displaying the value from the LC-1, it works perfectly.

The Evo wideband controller has two outputs, as noted above, the 0-5v signal in the instructions, gives a table that correlates the AFR to the voltage. This is what you'll use in ECMLink to make sure you are logging accurate values. You can also use that table to get the LC-1 to feed the gauge the same values that the evo controller would give.

In short, I have the Evo wideband hooked up to an LC-1. LC-1 accuracy, logging, and programmable goodness in an Evo gauge prettiness. The unfortunate thing is I had to spend ~140 more than I needed to to get the gauge. I've been contemplating trying to sell the controller with the wideband, but figured I would sit on it just in case something ever happened to my LC-1.

 

[AK Maniak]

Here's the wiring diagram.

http://prosportgauges.com/instructions/evogw/EVO-RED-BLUE-WIDEBAND-INSTRUCTIONS.pdf

It appears it does? Has a separate ground on the analog harness. Then another for the controller harness.


If i can figure out my boost leak issue by this weekend, i will be comparing the numbers from the prosport to a lm-1 with a new sensor that was also checked against a F.A.S.T system from a local tuner that uses two sensors.

The lm-1 and the two sensors of the F.A.S.T system all were spot on accurate and matched each other. So it should give a real good idea on how accurate the prosport is.

But so far, the prosport display matches the logs perfectly.

Just checking to see if you ever for a chance to compare the two.

Nekid- Thanks a ton, you've been a huge help. I'm gonna order all my gauges and link this week so if I run into any problems expect some PM's haha.