please help, buying a new clutch

[johnboy1065]

Hey ya'll

Well, I just rebuilt my entire engine and it is ready to put into the car with one exception.

My clutch isnt in the greatest condition and I figured I might go ahead and buy one soon. I'd like to buy it before I put it all in the car but I'm not sure If I can afford it right now.

But anyway, the car has the basic mods. catback exhaust, dsmlink, hks 272 cams, and a 20G turbo. BUT I have a holset HX40 that I will put on it in the very near future. So I need a clutch that will hold the power/torque of the holset HX40

I was looking at this clutch, and maybe considering it in the 6 puck design.
http://www.maperformance.com/act-max...h-kit-dsm.html

what do you all think?

 

[lzertrbo]

well for one bad link and from my experience i would go with the 6 puck cause the stock clutch slipped on me when my car was stck

 

[Lofty]

Ive heard ACT2100s are great for street cars with power.
If you're gonna make a LOT of power, go the 2600

 

[92dsm1]

ACT 2600 is a good clutch, guys have put down some good numbers with one. I know where you can pick one up for a good deal also.

 

[johnboy1065]

ACT 2600 is a good clutch, guys have put down some good numbers with one. I know where you can pick one up for a good deal also.

where is that?

 

[Luckybob2485]

From personal experience, I have been through two act 2600 clutches, and they did not last long at all. The most recent one was with the street disk, and lasted less than 8k miles, and less than a year and a half. On that setup, i was only pushing 270 wheel horsepower. I had a fidanza 3.2 put in a couple months ago, and although it chatters quite a bit, im pleased. I havent been hard on it, because my fuel pump is taking a shit, and going way lean every time i give it gas. But i would look into fidanza's clutches, possibly the 4.3.

 

[92dsm1]

Most of the time when a clutch does not last it is the owner/operators fault. I have seen guys say a CF DF clutch is junk, I had one and drove the car very hard launched 50+ times on it and it never slipped and my buddy has it now and it is still going strong. If you had an ACT 2600 go out that early it is from slipping it to much getting it to hot. IMO. At only 270 HP you should have had no problem with the clutch ot maybe you got lucky and got two bad one, I do no know.

Johnboy1065 If you are interested in an ACT 2600 I have one for sale it came with a tranny and some other stuff I bought, PM me.

 

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

The ACT is the most proven pp/clutch out there, but if you really want a clutch to hold power then the act 2100 or even a 2600 is not the pp for you, especially not with a street disk. If your gonna really open up the hx40(not just run 18psi) you better look into the 2900(or another companies equivalent), or even a twin-disk.

This again this has been answered many times.

 

[92dsm1]

Aren't guys having problems with the dual disk clutches eating up the input shaft on their trannies? I would go with the 2900 if planning big power, you could even call Peter at South Bend clutch, he knows his stuff, he builds clutches for us Cummins guys that really handle some power and he will answer your questions and steer you in the right direction.

 

[Luckybob2485]

Most of the time when a clutch does not last it is the owner/operators fault. I have seen guys say a CF DF clutch is junk, I had one and drove the car very hard launched 50+ times on it and it never slipped and my buddy has it now and it is still going strong. If you had an ACT 2600 go out that early it is from slipping it to much getting it to hot. IMO. At only 270 HP you should have had no problem with the clutch ot maybe you got lucky and got two bad one, I do no know.

Johnboy1065 If you are interested in an ACT 2600 I have one for sale it came with a tranny and some other stuff I bought, PM me.

I do not disagree with this statement at all, the clutch in my car could have gone out due to installers error. However, I had a professional transmission/tuner shop install the clutch. I did the recommended break in, I actually went over the recommended break in mileage. To my knowledge, there was no error in installation or operation. And this is why I would not recommend ACT, but that is my opinion, other people have had great luck with their clutches.

 

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

I do not disagree with this statement at all, the clutch in my car could have gone out due to installers error. However, I had a professional transmission/tuner shop install the clutch. I did the recommended break in, I actually went over the recommended break in mileage. To my knowledge, there was no error in installation or operation. And this is why I would not recommend ACT, but that is my opinion, other people have had great luck with their clutches.

That does not mean anything, any other similar clutch would have been the same. You say you had a street disk so dont complain, and dont ever expect a clutch on modified car to last a 100,000 miles, or on the real side 15,000.

 

[Luckybob2485]

Im not complaining at all, im just giving my opinion on that particular clutch. You go ahead and have fun replacing your clutch every 10k miles, but im going to try to find a quality clutch that will last longer.

 

[92dsm1]

IMO it is not always the clutch, I am not saying you do not know how to drive so don't flame me but alot of times when a clutch goes out that early the driver slipped it to much on takeoffs. Example when doing a launch at the track the driver slipped the clutch to long, got it hot and it ate the clutch up.

 

[Rockbmx1]

I have a 2100 that has less then 3k on I for cheap. Pm me if you are interested.

 

[hondaslayer1]

Act 2600 all the way they are great

 

[johnboy1065]

I am leaning toward a 2900 with a 6 puck disc.


any input on that?


http://www.maperformance.com/act-maxx-xtreme-2900-clutch-kit-dsm.html

 

[johnboy1065]

Im not complaining at all, im just giving my opinion on that particular clutch. You go ahead and have fun replacing your clutch every 10k miles, but im going to try to find a quality clutch that will last longer.

when getting up in the HP numbers you really do have to replace it that often sometimes.

I have an EVO that uses a quartermaster twin, and that clutch probably only lasts 7-8K

 

[92dsm1]

when getting up in the HP numbers you really do have to replace it that often sometimes.

I have an EVO that uses a quartermaster twin, and that clutch probably only lasts 7-8K

Yes you are right you will with a high hp car, but the guy complaining about the ACT 2600 was only pushing 270 WHP. A clutch with a car only pushing that amount of power should last 50-60k plus miles IMO.

 

[johnboy1065]

Well,

I'm leaning toward an ACT 2900 but am unsure of what kind of disc to get.

Between a 6 and 4 puck which one is going to be able to hold more power? I'm assuming the 6 puck just because there is more surface area, but am unsure.

Also, is there any real difference in sprung and unsprung discs as far as how much power they will hold? I'm sure that the sprung is more streetable. But if there is no difference in the power they will hold I don't see why anyone would ever go with the unsprung disc.

 

[snowborder714]

ACT 2600 with Southbend kevlar disc. There's a member on here who has put 550+ ft.lbs. of torque down with that setup.

 

[hayourwifeleftu]

i bought an act 2600 4 years ago used. i ran it in my 92 awd talon for a year with a 16g setup. then i put it in my 91 talon with a pte 60-1 making around 400whp launching the thing like crazy and beating it. took it out when my motor lost all its oil and died still had a crap load of meet left on it. i then sold it and that person is very happy with it.

so i say go for an act 2600 with street disk for your 20g setup and if you plan on running that hx40 maybe a 6puck disk or the act 2900.

 

[jasonx9]

That was before act switch the things they make there disk's out of you look at the newer designs and the older designs and you will see a very big difference. Mainly in the quality of the disk itself I to am going to be looking for a good clutch with the same setup as this guy but I am sticking with a 20g because thats as big of a turbo I want to go with for now.