Picking A Turbo

[bryce]

With summer getting closer and closer, that means i need a new turbo. My plans for the summer are walbro 255, 650 or 750's, safc-2, boost controller, maft setup, sbr manifold, fmic and possbily a nx sprayer. So what i was wondering was what the best option for a turbo would be for me. I want something that will be able to run around 400 hp with the sprayer and maybe still have a little bit of room for more. I was thinking on somethin along the line of a evo 3 16g, but feedback would be greatly appreciated. Would that turbo do the trick or Is there something better with the same kinda style(spool,bolt-on kinda style). Any advice is appreciated.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

there have been plenty of people who asked this same question. For 400whp or more, you WILL have a very difficult time achieving this with an evo III 16G. You will need a 50 trim or higher to achieve your goal. If you'd like a recommendation, for 400whp and room to play, I would go with an FP green or 50 trim hybrid, also possibly a 60 trim turbo. Also, you have to do research on how an AFC works (not saying that you don't) but running 700+cc injectors will give you a hell of a time trying to tune your car. Goodluck with whatever you do.

 

[BrandonLF]

well i would also suggest 50 or higher trim turbo...check out hahn racecraft or ams's websites they have some turbos that i think will fit your needs. oh ya and i would definitely get the car PROPERLY TUNED. make sure the person knows what their doing.

 

[iboostdoyou]

yea I agree with Tom on this one. If you only want to go with an evo3: A. Your not going to need 750's, you can probably even get away with 550's. B. The SAFC simply cannot compensate for 750cc injectors, even if it could, you would probably pull massive timing. C. An evo3 will have a difficult time pulling 400whp, and almost impossible if tuning through a safc (possible, but not likely). Stay away from the nitrous IMO unless your going with a monster turbo that can't spool on its own and you track it often. A 50trim would suit your needs nicely... not to turn this into a classifieds, but BlacknSpo0ln actually should have his sbr g50 for sale if i'm not mistaken shoot him a pm if your interested. If you want easy tuning and dont want to spend the money on dsmlink/ems or equivalent, look at getting a chip burned for the car and the injectors you are going to run. Good luck

 

[dsmgrimreaper]

fp green and dsmlink safc's are a waste of time and money

 

[bryce]

What does everyone think of the 20g?

 

[titogs95]

What does everyone think of the 20g?

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[out there]

maybe you should consider an hx-35 or hx-40? lots of power on pump gas and they're fairly inexpensive.
are you sure you're ready for such a huge turbo? i don't see a shiny metal grin on your dsm

 

[blcknspo0ln]

yea I agree with Tom on this one. If you only want to go with an evo3: A. Your not going to need 750's, you can probably even get away with 550's. B. The SAFC simply cannot compensate for 750cc injectors, even if it could, you would probably pull massive timing. C. An evo3 will have a difficult time pulling 400whp, and almost impossible if tuning through a safc (possible, but not likely). Stay away from the nitrous IMO unless your going with a monster turbo that can't spool on its own and you track it often. A 50trim would suit your needs nicely... not to turn this into a classifieds, but BlacknSpo0ln actually should have his sbr g50 for sale if i'm not mistaken shoot him a pm if your interested. If you want easy tuning and dont want to spend the money on dsmlink/ems or equivalent, look at getting a chip burned for the car and the injectors you are going to run. Good luck

how dare you tell everyone I have my G50 for sale!?!?! haha j/k.

referring to what kyle just wrote, go to ww.dsmchips.com or search "keydiver" for all of your ECU compensation needs

 

[iboostdoyou]

I've heard varying information about the holset turbos. I havent had any real personal experience with the turbo, but from what i've heard generally isn't amazing reactions. Big power can be made from them if you can utilize every supporting mod possible. I did not have good reactions to my 20g at all, but then again it was a hahn super 20g which didnt exactly fit perfectly. Some argue the 20g is the best turbo they have ever owned. I'm sure if mine had fit exactly like it should have, I would agree.

 

[bryce]

maybe you should consider an hx-35 or hx-40? lots of power on pump gas and they're fairly inexpensive.
are you sure you're ready for such a huge turbo? i don't see a shiny metal grin on your dsm

i like that... the shiny metal grin is on the way. So what im really asking is some input on this setup.... fmic, maft, 3 inch exhaust, 255 pump, 550 or 650 now i guess, and whatever else i will need tuning wise. i have the money but i just dont know with what turbo to go with to push around 400 hp this summer

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

I would go with a 50 trim. A 60 is not needed. With good tuning device and proper supporting mods making 400whp on a 50 trim is easy. Most people on this board have overkill for what they need. I would suggest the SBR G50 turbo. Heard great things out it. Also if you haven't already done it along with your mods I would suggest a set of ARP's and a new headgasket. The stock one might hold for a good while but I just wouldn't trust it in the 400whp range.

 

[daren_p]

Like everyone has said a 50 trim should suite you nicely and a 20g will also get the job done but tend to be more expensive. If your looking for evoIII like spool you should check out the new BB versions that PTE and SBR are offering, these will help in the spool department. Don't go 550 injectors, you'll max those out no problem, 650's are the standard recommended injector for the evoIII. If you have the cash Id defently go with dsmlink over the safc, 650's are about the max with a piggyback system, because of the compensation you get to much timing advance (not to little like was mentioned above). If you want to run larger injectors and cant afford dsmlink, check to see if you have an eprom ecu as you can just get a chip that will compensate for the injectors and get you in the ballpark, then just use the safc for fine tunning.

 

[bryce]

would it be A good idea to go aem ems way

 

[MCDGexx]

Will a EvoIII hit 350 reliably? How hard is it to tune?

 

[iboostdoyou]

it will take a few more bolt ons to get an evo3 to 350whp. crank horsepower you can get to 350 fairly easily. I have an safcII now, but I really plan on going either ems or dsmlink soon. It's just so much easier to tune for power using a complete tuning system. Timing is all kinds of messed up when using an safc, plus you need an alternate logging system. Dsmlink/Ems does it all. However, with the dsmlink you still have to stick with that pos maf. Go with the ems if you can afford it. Complex system that is definitely not for newbies, but it is an amazing system.

 

[Eastern Brigade]

A 50 Trim is a great turbo. I had a few friends with that turbo. It's great on pump gas also. Just make sure you know how to tune your car. If not you may be putting some money into a new engine.

 

[Jslove1408]

What about an 18g? I always hear about people recomending 20g's and 50trims but why is it that it seems people never comment on an 18g shouldn't it be more streetable than the 20g and 50 trim but be able to push out more power than the evo 16g?

~Josh

 

[ericbev]

What about an 18g? I always hear about people recomending 20g's and 50trims but why is it that it seems people never comment on an 18g shouldn't it be more streetable than the 20g and 50 trim but be able to push out more power than the evo 16g?

~Josh

You dont hear people reccommend it because the minimal 50 more cfm you would gain isnt worth extra cash.