Oil Filter Spacer? [Merged 10-8] sandwich plate

[OverBoostinGST]

Im a little confusied on how this bolts on the the motor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OIL-...tegoryZ46100QQihZ015QQitemZ250039872169QQrdZ1, I bought an autometer mechanical oil pressure gauge with flexible copper tubing. Do I put the orignal sender in the threads too? It says stock oil sender, Im confusied can someone please clear this up for me?

 

[ROOKIE1]

Im a little confusied on how this bolts on the the motor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OIL-...tegoryZ46100QQihZ015QQitemZ250039872169QQrdZ1, I bought an autometer mechanical oil pressure gauge with flexible copper tubing. Do I put the orignal sender in the threads too? It says stock oil sender, Im confusied can someone please clear this up for me?

The way I read it , yes . You can leave your factory senders in . It has room for 4 senders . Seems like a good idea .

 

[92awddsm]

Seems like a good idea .

I have to disagree. With a 3" dp, filter room is already limited. Add another 1" spacer and it will put the filter right against the dp. Only way for it to work well is to use it on a 91^ style housing but the cooler will have to be removed for clearance reasons.

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

I have to disagree. With a 3" dp, filter room is already limited. Add another 1" spacer and it will put the filter right against the dp. Only way for it to work well is to use it on a 91^ style housing but the cooler will have to be removed for clearance reasons.

Exactly. My roommate bought one and it spaced it out too far and on top of that the threads weren't very clean and couldn't get the sender to go in. Also the plate wasn't machined very well and had to use RTV to get it to seal.

 

[OverBoostinGST]

I have to disagree. With a 3" dp, filter room is already limited. Add another 1" spacer and it will put the filter right against the dp. Only way for it to work well is to use it on a 91^ style housing but the cooler will have to be removed for clearance reasons.

Well i have a 2.5 inch inlet and 3 inch out downpipe you guys think ill still have problems? If so where can I tap for oil pressure, im so confusied about where to tap and ive seached already and even seen pictures, where exactly do I tap into with the fitting?

 

[92awddsm]

Well i have a 2.5 inch inlet and 3 inch out downpipe you guys think ill still have problems? If so where can I tap for oil pressure, im so confusied about where to tap and ive seached already and even seen pictures, where exactly do I tap into with the fitting?

You can tap either of the 2 plugs in the oil filter housing that is facing the radiator or you can use a tee at the factory sending unit port and add the additional sending unit.

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[OverBoostinGST]

So what you are saying I can take off that fake looking bolt and screw my bolt into there?

 

[DSMunknown]

So what you are saying I can take off that fake looking bolt and screw my bolt into there?

Yes, that is what he is saying.

Exactly. My roommate bought one and it spaced it out too far and on top of that the threads weren't very clean and couldn't get the sender to go in. Also the plate wasn't machined very well and had to use RTV to get it to seal.

The thread issue is exactly what I was worried about as soon as I saw the product. The consumer is assuming that the threads are to OEM spec and that the oil filter will attach without problems. The consumer is also assuming that the female threading is correctly spec-ed to allow for different AN male adapter fittings.

If so where can I tap for oil pressure, im so confusied about where to tap and ive seached already and even seen pictures, where exactly do I tap into with the fitting?

I will try to remember to post up a photo or two of how I teed off from the OEM electrical oil unit so my mechanical pressure gauge could revieve pressure.


EDIT: Here we go. Just so you know, this is for the 1G:

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[playitlouddsm]

What i did was just unbolted the stock oil pressure sending gauge, and put in a brass T fitting there. Then i screwed in the stock sending gage back into one side and on the other side ran the steel braided line to the aftermarket sending gauge. Hopefully that makes sense, if not pm me for pictures. Oh yeah the way i have my line ran you won't be able to run the AC belt.

 

[DSMunknown]

I remembered about the photos I said I would post up:

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[Defiant]

Although the brass T is a very common solution, some caution must be exercised in this choice: the brass isn't keen on work-hardening, and the sharp thread roots make a terrible stress riser. Having the sender levering off the end does on occasion cause the fitting to snap off at the oil filter housing.

 

[DSMunknown]

Although the brass T is a very common solution, some caution must be exercised in this choice: the brass isn't keen on work-hardening, and the sharp thread roots make a terrible stress riser. Having the sender levering off the end does on occasion cause the fitting to snap off at the oil filter housing.

As a remedy to this possible problem, and in keeping with the tee modification, what do you suggest? A different quality of T, perhaps? Like the one below?


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Or would you suggest not going with this solution to begin with? Or would you suggest that the sender be located to the middle fitting instead?

 

[Defiant]

My first choice would be to use one of the other ports, but if you're going with a T, a quality item from an automotive supplier like Earl's or Summit or Russel will be much better than brass junk fittings meant for ice makers.

 

[OverBoostinGST]

My first choice would be to use one of the other ports, but if you're going with a T, a quality item from an automotive supplier like Earl's or Summit or Russel will be much better than brass junk fittings meant for ice makers.

Thanks Defiant, I was going to say I wouldnt feel safe knowing im using a brass fitting made for plumbing/ice makers.

 

[Cnock]

I just got the prosport oil pressure gauge (electrical) and i got the adapter plate that sits between the oil filter and the housing and you screw the sender into the plate. The thing i dont understand is where you screw the sender into no oil flows through it only through the middle. How canit see any pressure if it just screws into a hollow space? Am i an idiot or just not getting it. I can get pictures later if itll help.

 

[Ajax]

I have theirs aswell. It only see's the pressure from the oil not the flow so just screw the pressure sensor into one of the 4 holes and make sure you plug the rest you are not using with the plugs that came with it. Here's a pic

 

[Cnock]

Yea i saw that but still where is the pressure coming from? Is it being transfered through the metal of the plate? I feel so dumb but i just dont get it. Ill just plug the three holes and screw in the sender and call it a day.

 

[Ajax]

Those holes go right thru to the oil or they should unless they screwed up on yours! Look at the reverse side of the probes in the pictures. If your does not go straight thru I would def sent it back. Post a picture so we can see if you got a faulty one.

 

[Cnock]

the holes do go straight through btu they go into a empty space and then theres the center passage the oil goes through ill try to post a pic in a sec.

 

[92awddsm]

Oil goes through the center passage and the outer ring. Remember, oil goes into the filter and then back out again. Unless yours only has the center hole drilled and not the outer ring. If so, dont use it. It will starve your engine of oil.

 

[Cnock]

hey i cant shrink the file enough to fit it on here could i email it to you?

 

[92awddsm]

hey i cant shrink the file enough to fit it on here could i email it to you?

Sure. [email protected]

 

[92awddsm]

I saw the pic and the sensor will be located in the outer ring which is the inlet side of the oil filter. The center hole is actually the outlet of the filter. Remember, in order to filter the oil, oil has to flow into and out of the filter. The center hole is not the only part of the plate that has oil flowing through it.

 

[Cnock]

I felt so stupid when i read what you said i forgot that oil also flows on the side and nut just the center. I WAS HAVING A MAJOR BRAINFART.

 

[crimsondragon]

Does something like that make it easier for it to come in contact with the downpipe?