Oil change from Hell

[psx]

This is a precautionary tale of the Fram.
The 15 min oil change turned to 5 hours of chiseling
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[mitecl96]

Dang, that kinda like my car something simple is never simple and always cost way more than it should.

 

[ktgurl87]

Good grief, what the hell happened? Did someone weld it onto the car? Sheesh.

 

[psx]

I have no clue, how it could be on there so tight, my dad was like screw it and knocked out the filter with sludge hammer.

 

[serviceguy]

Overtorqued? I am facing something like that with my Equinox, and I did torque mine down! It looks like it has been there for a while. I stay away from FRAM oil filters anyway, I remember from back in the dys reading about their assembling causing metal shavings in the system. I am sure they addressed the poblem (?) but it's cheap anyway to buy an OEM or better quality one that I can't see the point of buying one one.

 

[red_devil]

Remember to lube the seal of the new filter and hand tighten only.

 

[awzer2]

You gotta use yo strong hand!

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[Boomdeeze]

Had this happen once and hope it never does again, filter didn't look that bad when I got it off but was mangled.

 

[DSM1G90]

Good ol' strap wrenches are great to remove filters since the filter is in that horizontal position .... Usually, it's the heat that can "weld" them on to the housing.

What I usually do to measure the turn is: put a mark on the filter when the gasket just touches the housing. Then turn the filter by and to where the mark can just get past the 3/4 turn from where you put the mark on the filter..or just barely see it when it comes around.

 

[jeromea]

Wow, the last person to put that on there was either really strong, or really stupid. I'm gonna go with both.

 

[EclipticalGS]

I try to use WIX filters on all of my cars, they did however raise my cruise oil pressure by 5psi but your getting 90% or whatever they claim for filtering. They also butt rape you at $7 a filter.

Also usually tighten until it snugs up and then one hand to twist the last 1/4 turn. Never had a problem getting mine back off. Another suggestion instead of worrying about "did I put it on tight enough", snug it down, finish with a 1/4 turn and install an oil filter leash.

For us dsmers with poly mounts and lopy violent idle from 272s this easily made homeade leash can save a bottom end.

 

[josh1095]

i stated this in another thread, i ran cheap frams in a 98 n/t and sold it in excellent condition at 225k miles. i had good luck with them. then again, on my gst? no way im running frams
the guy must have used the oil wrench to TIGHTEN it , that shit sucks dude. glad its off and your OFH isnt screwed or anything bad

 

[psx]

Yea the filter was not bad looking at the seal, what ripped it was this oil removal tool. It just ripped the top of the filter. Yes i put in a WIX back in there, oh whats a oil leash??????

 

[ez_ed23]

No reason what so ever for a filter to be that tight.. I worked at a quick lube an we used to get ones in like that. But never tore the filter the whole way apart. It's kids thinking it's funny playing he-man. But you'd never have that problem witha K n N

 

[turbo98eclipse]

A sledge hammer? What the heck were you guys thinking? ?? Next time, stab the filter with a screwdriver, and use the handle of the screwdriver to spin the filter off. Sledge hammers are used to take down walls, not remove oil filters

 

[bcjjones]

Been there before man, maybe not to that extent, but was on tight enough to have to hammer a screwdriver through it and use that to twist it off.

 

[775TSI]

I have always used K & N premium filters in my car and have yet to have any issues. I would bet money to say the person who had this car before you tried to tighten a loose oil pump with the filter way over torquing it. I have seen more times then not those oil pumps wiggle lose after some serious abuse in a road rage manner. With age comes brittle!

 

[99gst214]

Thats why I bought one of these!

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[BoostedPhoenix]

Thats been my every experience with Frams, seems they arent much thicker than a pop can. Seen to many engines with a rod through the block sportin a Fram filter. A couple cars that had no oil pressure on a cold starup using a Fram filter, one of them the filter even exploded. Ive said it before and i'll say it again, GM had a service bulliten for the Ecotech where the Fram filters were falling apart and after the engine was trashed they found the filter media in the oil gallies of the head. Stay away from Fram forever and always.

 

[Doubleot]

I had a similar issue, but I got mine off in one piece .

I only use mitsu filters anymore.

 

[ricktb]

I hand tighten my filters, and only if they leak do I use a filter wrench. One time I did a change where the space was so tight and you could barely get a couple fingers on it, nevermind a filter wrench and the damn thing was so tight I ended up stabbing a screwdriver right through it to use as a lever. Even then most the metal ripped apart and I had to re-stab 2 more times and finally got it off. Oil everywhere, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Some filters have a hex part on the end so you can put a wrench, but I prefer the fram filters, they have a grip coating so you get some good hand torque on it.

 

[Abe'sGST]

Thats why I bought one of these!

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+2, they work great. Someone thought it wasn't tight enough so they used the band wrench to tighten it more. Hand tight only

 

[Doubleot]

I hand tighten my filters, and only if they leak do I use a filter wrench. One time I did a change where the space was so tight and you could barely get a couple fingers on it, nevermind a filter wrench and the damn thing was so tight I ended up stabbing a screwdriver right through it to use as a lever. Even then most the metal ripped apart and I had to re-stab 2 more times and finally got it off. Oil everywhere, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Some filters have a hex part on the end so you can put a wrench, but I prefer the fram filters, they have a grip coating so you get some good hand torque on it.

You need to read up on fram filters, They have been known to disintegrate from the inside leaving all the debris moving freely through your motor. I sleep a little better knowing I don't have filter shavings around my motor.


Mitsu filters don't have a grip coating and I don't have issues removing them, With a filter wrench

 

[talonawd1991]

Wow ive had one filter come off similar to that.
You can barely recognize its a filter!
Props to getting it off tho!

 

[andyvr2]

Wow, I work at a quick lube shop and have never run into that sort of thing. Usually its pretty tight and it is almost always the first oil change or a non-lubed filter that makes it difficult. I always hang tighten it unless its a chevy truck; which I will use a band filter strap to SLIGHTLY over tighten it. That sucks man, at least you got it off.