NEW MAFT Gen 2 - questions?

[Slippi84]

You got a deal let me know
Mike

sweet pay day isn't till next week but i'm def down.

 

[voodoodsm]

So yeah this basicly sound's awesome. Almost to good to be true.

 

[thekyguy11]

I feel like I just got the 1st gen and it already seems like a dinosaur compared to this.

 

[staticbrainwash]

Well, s**t. . . I wish i didn't need a whole new pipe to run blowthrough. But my big question is, can you still run it WITH an safc for even more adjustability? Or does it have pleanty of places to adjust on it's on to get everything running necessary.

 

[Mike Licht]

An AFC is not even close in adjustability to a Gen 2 MAFT. It would be a waste of time and money. I am not even sure you could hook it up and make it work correctly. The Gen 2 has 14 RPM bands, + or - 60% fuel tuning in 1/2% steps, and three load levels. The AFC is 40% tuning, 1% steps and two load levels
Mike

 

[staticbrainwash]

Wow, this is definitely where i'm going for piggyback fuel tuning then. I just wish i had a need for it right now, but running a 14b doesn't really necessitate major tuning. I also wish i wouldn't need a whole new uicp just to run blowthrough either.

Thanks for answering my questions. . . this might be in my near future regardless.

 

[Dream On]

This is awesome. I originally wanted the translator and a SAFC, so this is gonna replace both and work out to be much cheaper. Nice work on that thing, I'm excited to use it.

 

[TSIHero]

Just wondering but -

What exactly do you need to make this run completely?

The 3'' GM MAF
The GEN 2 Translator
The wideband o2 sensor?

How does it plug together? It looks like the front O2 sensor runs straight into the Gen 2 unit. What do you do with the plug where the stock O2 sensor runs into?

Do you still need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator? How would you go about adjusting the pressure on it if the unit itself is also going to adjust your fuel pressure for you to make sure you hold a certain A/F ratio?

I've never seen how an S-AFC is hooked up before or used an adjustable FPR so i'm new to those areas.

 

[Slippi84]

Just wondering but -

What exactly do you need to make this run completely?

The 3'' GM MAF
The GEN 2 Translator
The wideband o2 sensor?

How does it plug together? It looks like the front O2 sensor runs straight into the Gen 2 unit. What do you do with the plug where the stock O2 sensor runs into?

Do you still need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator? How would you go about adjusting the pressure on it if the unit itself is also going to adjust your fuel pressure for you to make sure you hold a certain A/F ratio?

I've never seen how an S-AFC is hooked up before or used an adjustable FPR so i'm new to those areas.

You don't need a wideband but without it that cool feature of just setting your a/f ratio at WOT and lettting the unit do the work for you isn't achievable. Idealy to have a dsmlink rivaling setup you need:

Eprom ecu
The keydriver chip with timing controll feature only available threw them
The Gen2 unit
3" GM sensor
wideband controller with sensor(gauge not needed but if you want you can have it )
A logger

With all that stuff I stated above you will be able to set your a/f ratio and WOT and adjust timing too and not have to worry about diffrent factors like outside air temp and other stuff like more boost. To just run this unit all you need is the unit and a 3" gm maf. The other stuff liek afpr and other fuel stuff you still need. This is not a bandaid for broken fuel parts but a advanced way to tune if you don't want to get dsmlink or ems

 

[DGajre777]

Just wondering but -

What exactly do you need to make this run completely?

The 3'' GM MAF
The GEN 2 Translator
The wideband o2 sensor?

This is all you need to make it work:
The 3'' GM MAF
The GEN 2 Translator
The wideband o2 sensor WITH A WIDEBAND CONTROLLER

Obviously, you should have a logger before you start playing with a piggyback fuel computer.

 

[Slippi84]

This is all you need to make it work:
The 3'' GM MAF
The GEN 2 Translator
The wideband o2 sensor WITH A WIDEBAND CONTROLLER

Obviously, you should have a logger before you start playing with a piggyback fuel computer.

This is not true I just stated that you don't NEED a wideband controller to make it work. The wideband just makes it so you can use the a/f ratio setting feature. Otherwise it works like a safc2 just with more adjustability. You have 14 tuning points and can adjust in 1/2% incriments.

 

[DGajre777]

This is not true I just stated that you don't NEED a wideband controller to make it work. The wideband just makes it so you can use the a/f ratio setting feature. Otherwise it works like a safc2 just with more adjustability. You have 14 tuning points and can adjust in 1/2% incriments.

If he/she wants to use the wideband tracking feature (which I think he/she does), then just a wideband sensor is not going to do anything. A wideband controller with a wideband sensor is needed.

If he/she doesn't want to use the wideband tracking feature, then yes, you are correct a wideband sensor and a wideband controller is not needed.

 

[alex99gst]

Has anyone ordered this yet and tried it out to give us some results/impressions/feedback?

 

[Slippi84]

You don't need a wideband but without it that cool feature of just setting your a/f ratio at WOT and lettting the unit do the work for you isn't achievable. Idealy to have a dsmlink rivaling setup you need:

Eprom ecu
The keydriver chip with timing controll feature only available threw them
The Gen2 unit
3" GM sensor
wideband controller with sensor(gauge not needed but if you want you can have it )
A logger

With all that stuff I stated above you will be able to set your a/f ratio and WOT and adjust timing too and not have to worry about diffrent factors like outside air temp and other stuff like more boost. To just run this unit all you need is the unit and a 3" gm maf. The other stuff liek afpr and other fuel stuff you still need. This is not a bandaid for broken fuel parts but a advanced way to tune if you don't want to get dsmlink or ems

Before you posted I had already stated that if they wanted to use the feature they needed a wideband controller and sensor as just a sensor will not work. So that's why your original post seems a little puzzling


We are on the same page and as long as everyone knows that to use the feature that makes this the great tuning tool it is you need the wideband controller the rest is symantics.

 

[DGajre777]

We are on the same page and as long as everyone knows that to use the feature that makes this the great tuning tool it is you need the wideband controller the rest is symantics.

Yeah, we are on the same page.

Here is the owner's manual for the MAFT Gen II:
http://www.fullthrottletech.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=246&d=1147805657

 

[micahmr2]

Can it compensate for 770's

 

[Mike Licht]

That is the outside edge of tuning without a chip in the ecm as far as I am concerned.
Mike

 

[micahmr2]

Just got mine in UPS today, looking over it. I have never used a Translator, and my quick question is do I use the mainscale to adjust for larger injectors? If so when going from stock 440 to got 680, what is the percentage I should use.

Thanks, very nice product so far.

 

[Mike Licht]

Move the mainscale until the hige trim stabolizes at cruise
Mike

 

[staticbrainwash]

Hey, i'm just wondering how this worked out for everyone. I've got money now and would like to run blowthru (if i can figure out how to cut up my dejon uicp).

Did the idle issues and small bugs get worked out from gen1? Basically, what are everyone's opinions on this bad boy?

 

[myblack98gst]

any updates from people who have this??

I am looking to sell the old MAFT and get this in place of an AFC..

If it is all it is cracked up to be it is one of the best tuning deals available

 

[clipise]

Well, my guess would be that it would still idle poorly with huge injectors but I don't know...That would definately be sweet though.

is this true? im going to be running 780cc injectors.

 

[Fmstrat]

OK, am I reading this right.. The Gen II can be used with a stock 2G MAS?

You use a MAF sensor adaptor plug under the hood if you want to upgrade the MAF sensor to one of the GM units (also Optional) or our new 4" MAF Sensor which will be out this summer. The stock MAF sensor will work with this unit if you prefer that

I was about to pick up an SAFCII, but it seems like this could be a better option. Can I use wideband tracking with the stock 2G MAS?

Can you save the wideband tracking settings? I.E. do a run with a wideband and have it save the data and keep those maps for WOT from there out?

I have a keydiver chip, how does the timing control work with the Gen II? I didn't realize my chip had this feature.

 

[Slippi84]

OK, am I reading this right.. The Gen II can be used with a stock 2G MAS?



I was about to pick up an SAFCII, but it seems like this could be a better option. Can I use wideband tracking with the stock 2G MAS?

Can you save the wideband tracking settings? I.E. do a run with a wideband and have it save the data and keep those maps for WOT from there out?

I have a keydiver chip, how does the timing control work with the Gen II? I didn't realize my chip had this feature.

It probably doesn't. It's an extra feature they have now (well have had since maft pro) where they put the code on the chip that will alow the unit to alter timing. As for the using the stock 2gmaf and using the unit yes but as per how you would wire that you'd have to check with the guys at full throttle or the forums but I know with a gm setup you just cut and use the IAT input wire.

 

[nc90awd]

I have a keydiver chip, how does the timing control work with the Gen II? I didn't realize my chip had this feature.

Keydiver will reflash your chip for $20


I have the Gen2 on my car. I have recently finished putting my car together, I have a bad gm mas so I am driving with the stock 1g mas till my new 3.5 inch mas comes in from extreme psi. My clutch is still breaking in so I havent opened it up all the way yet. I will keep every one updated.

Mike, I havent hooked my aem 6 in 1 ugeo wideband to the gen2 yet, on the settings, there is choices for AEM and 5v AEM. Which one do I pick?