Need advice and how to!

[dm7x09]

Im a newbie and I dont even have the car yet. I was suppose to get a 97 but it had heating problems and so no thanks. Anyway, new plan is to completely rebuild a 99 GSX to be the exact way I want it. However being new to this I have few tools and no garage but am doing it anyway, i'll figure something out. Only thing I need help with is exactly what has to be done. Simple things even like how exactly to remove the engine from the dang car, wires to disconnect, parts, etc I wont have trouble tearing the engine down but the problem is back together as in what parts I should be getting. I want to replace as much as I need to from the bottem end up. What parts should I be replacing? I ask from the bottem up cause my budget will limit me to go part by part, dont have a choice on that unfortunately. Im going to be working with the 99 GSX 4G63T engine and I want to eliminate the balance shaft and put in the 16g from the EVO. Anything special required for that? I was also thinking of putting in some EVO internals, since they are basically the same engine, would that work out? Im not trying to gain huge amounts of horsepower, just trying to make it best I can and reliable as it will be a daily driver. Ant advice would be greatly appreciated even its as small as i'll need a certain tool, anything you can offer.

 

[hypergenesis]

Go buy a Haynes or chiltons book/Manuel.

Get a full socket and wrench set
Vice grips
Breaker bar
tourque wrench
jackstands
Jack
Pb blaster
wd40

Use vfaq.com and the search button from this forum.

Also start with maintenance water pump, timing belt, pulleys, belts., tensioners, change all the fluids, seafoam the car before u change the oil.

Don't jump to upgrading a Turbo if u don't have anything to support it

Armin

 

[4Lurker4]

You can also grab the dealer manuals on the car (see link) which have EVERYTHING you'll ever need in terms of specs/parts/how to. Then read read and read some more both books and forums.

1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse/Eclipse Spyder Manual Vol.1 & 3 | eBay

 

[DaRKSiDeGSX]

Label every connection both sides (electrical, vacuum etc)
Bag and label bolts specifically to where they bolt.
Pay attention to bolt sizes (oil pan, oil filter housing, transmission have diff. sizes)
Get a new timing belt auto-tensioner

If you are reassembling yourself.
You will need things like plastigage to check for bearing clearances


I'd strongly recommend getting a decent mechanics tool set at a bare minimum.
Some specialty tools can be rented from Advanced Auto, others are pretty cheap and you may just want to purchase.

Before you yank the engine and get waist deep in a project. Assess the budget BEFORE the goals.
This will help keep you from pipe dream status.

The gaskets, bearings, pistons, rings, timing parts, etc. to bring it back to stock aren't cheap, let alone all the goodies we'd all like to have.


Once you have your budget I'd suggest gathering all the parts before you even yank the engine. This way as you get it to bare block status and ready to go to the machine shop your ready to build.

The moment it comes back to you, it's time to assemble.

Take your time be patient and if something seems wrong. Do a little research, gather opinions if need be. Go back at it with a fresh mind.

Expect delays, hang ups, and things you had no intention on replacing to halt the project.

Once it's installed, if it doesn't start...don't worry about it this is normal, it is a DSM after all. (that's a joke)

I wish you luck! Keep us posted.

 

[dm7x09]

Thanks for the advice so far. I have a Chilton and the "How To Build Max-Performance Mitsubishi 4G63T Engines" that ive read front to back and im on here looking for new things to read on all the time. Im definately not just gonna yank the engine out, i've doin a budget and figuring prices, not cheap but close as im gonna get. No, I wasnt planning on just slapping on the 16g, meant as a long term goal. Looks like im going to be getting the frankenstein package from DSM Graveyard that has the EVO 9 pistons with 7 bolt rods and camshaft and all in one package. I know theres a lot more but im still looking which is why im on here as well. Plus now I have some new things to look into. For example, whats a pb blaster and a plastigage? Thanks for all the advice so far, keep it coming.

 

[DaRKSiDeGSX]

Plastigage is a very thin tube of plastic (or plastic like material) it's torqued in the bearings to check for clearances.

That one I never heard of until I built my first engine either.

BUT PB Blaster your killin' me Smalls... (I love The Sandlot) It's a spray lubricant like wd-40.

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

I would say about half of us dont have a garage either amigo .. Me included. Welcome to the club

 

[dm7x09]

Alright, WD40 ive got plenty of, just havent heard of pb blaster, but ok. As far as a garage, you just do your work in the street or what?

 

[Anubis_4_99]

if i gotta do major work, mine sleeps in the in-laws garage, or my bosses shop. anything short of pulling the motor i do in my apartment parking lot.

if i were you i would snag this set Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more i bought that set when i went to build my civic motor, to this day unless its been a specialty tool, i haven't needed to make a trip to buy a tool. and that was 4 years ago.

another good thing to invest in if you plan on doing all your own wrenching is ratchet wrenches, i absolutely love them!

 

[925awdtalon]

What I did with my Evo3 setup was a walbro 255 fuel pump, 560cc injectors, DSM link, Evo 3 turbo, o2 housing and exhaust manifold, 3" turbo back exhaust.

 

[phunny]

I already know some of you are going to disagree but OP, do you really want to build a "performance motor?" There is a very good reason that these shops charge a decent amount of money. A lot of guys on here will tell you with a tool set and a manual you can build your motor and if you insist, just do me this favor first.

Just hold off a week and count the number of threads started about guys "building" their motors and what happens. Or the threads were they say "new motor and knocking sounds coming from the engine"....

 

[Boostinsideways]

Whenever I am working on an engine I was preveious un familar with. I cut a piece of cardboard and draw a diagram of the engine and then punch the bolts through in roughly the spot they go. That will help you no loose bolts, and remember where they got.

 

[1983gsp]

Find a fellow dsmmer in your area and pick his (or her) brain. Form a friendship and have them guide you to your goals.

 

[96talontso]

My only advice on the engine internals, is save up until you can do all of the engines internals at once, I personally dont think you should leave an engine exposed for pretty much any amount of time. Also, if you do choose to build the engine yourself, trust me, get a legit mechanic to look it over and inspect it, or even better, just have a shop build the engine for you and stick to upgrading turbo, exhaust, fmic etc. etc.

 

[doggietom]

VFAQ Site - Visual Frequently Answered Questions is gonna be your best friend

 

[dm7x09]

Thanks for the replies. Looks like this rebuild is gong to be around 2000 for just the block. if anyone knows how to do it cheaper please let me know. So since I know what im going to do, anyone have a cheap 99 GSX they wanna get rid of or know someone that would like to get rid of one? Ill go for either just the engine or a whole car, let me know.