n/t to turbo...internals needed?

[Erix]

I'm wanting to switch my n/t to turbo once i get teh cash but i don't know what i need to do it?...If soeone could let me knwo what internals i need before i buy the turbo so i don't mess the engine up let me know...Thanx

 

[iNdo]

try searchin next time guy but to answer ur question, which has been asked like 23423423432423 times... If ur serious about turboing its going to take quit a bit of money, time, learning, and dedication. The simple answer to ur question is, u could push about 5-7 psi on stock internals, and anything more would require upgrading internals. The better answer would be, start planning out all the other supporting mods and tuning that will be required for ur project. good luck

 

[mbenz910]

There are 2 main kits out there. Star and HRC. If you are really interested all the info you need is at www.2gnt.com Lots of people on there have kits. Search around there.

 

[Erix]

I know its gonna take money...but what internarls to i need to help my engine support a turbo so it dosn;t get messed up??

 

[Ralli///Art GS]

This topic has been posted a million times, there's even a forum for the NT to T conversion, so look around.

 

[VOTBLINDUB]

get ready for a SERIOUS dent in ur wallet, of like 20 grand or so. i already wrote out a hue list for one kid, do a search, you'll prolly find my post, its like a page and a half long listing most of what you'd need. you'll change your mind real fast. i hate to admit it but it will be easier to get a turbo car and upgrade that vs a n/a car. im not saying its not doable, im sayin its harder and much more expensive.

 

[Doug99RS]

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[timloomis]

dude,i live in ohio and ill help u out,.20 grand is bs by the way.u need turbo pistons from a 2g turbo dsm.u have a 93 which is 7 bolt and the wrist pin is the same as 2g pistons.some sort of fuel control,wether a s-afc or turbo ecu swap which is more work/money.also fuel pump,exhaust downpipe,turbo,exhaust manifold,intercooler of some sort,turbo oil pan,turbo injectors(rx7 turbo 2 injectors will work)upgraded clutch.thats pretty much it.easier to get a parts engine and build it up like i am.i have 200 bucks in my short block so far and 100 in my turbo,manifold,02 housing,and 35 in my bov.thats it.l8r.

 

[fivestardsm]

http://www.eagleautomotivewarehouse.com/Imports/Mitsubishi/4G63_Prices.htm Check these guys out. Its a good start!

Steve.

 

[Fez1085]

Yeah, i agree.. 20 grand is way too much of an estimate.. i'd guess it'd be around 5-6grand at MOST.. you could go two ways with this.. you could either buy a new 2.2L stroker kit from Howell Automotive (www.howellautomotive.com) or you could just buy new pistons and rods. I would rather buy new pistons and rods, b/c i've read that our stock 420a bottom ends are strong enough. anyways, pistons and rods will cost you about 1 grand.. and a turbo kit will be around 3ishy-grand. Its expensive as hell.. but probably well worth it all.
Since i'm a 2g, and you're a 1g, i think our engines are different... so i dont know about your bottom end. But i know with stock internals.. you could at most hit 7psi. But the other forums on 2gnt are really good information, so go check it out

 

[hkdl]

I'm sure 5 -7 psi would be a great jump to what speed hes getting now

 

[bones_420_99]

don't know exactly about the stock 1g's and there internals but i know on the 2g's that i have been told that you can go up to max of like 10 psi. whether or not this is true don't know but that is what i have been told and if strapped for cash buy a used turbo kit. hell some people sell them basically brand new cause it didn't give them what they wanted. look on www.2gnt.com for turbo kits. probable find some cheap there.

 

[hkdl]

10 sounds like a risk to me, it would probably work, it all depends how long you want the car to last.

 

[Fez1085]

10 sounds risky to me too.. i've read about a guy who had it set at 7psi.. then turned it up to 8, and his engine blew.. but ya know.. every engine is different... but 5-7 is whats generally recomended

 

[Damn 2nd Gear]

im no expert but most people take someone wanting to turbo a n/t as they want to get 400hp outta the sucker. waht about the people that want 5-7 psi and are happy with it? i know that it dont cost $5000 almost to turbo a nt. what if they just want to bolt up the manifold turbo, get the sidemount run the oil feed lines and various piping on the n/t clutch/tranny, with all the n/t parts? later on you could put in the turbo intake cam and if ya really want you can do the pistons and rods to a lower compression and go from there.

im planning on doing that. i know 2 person has worked with dsms and has turbo'd a few cars, and his roomate is a honda certified mechanic. sure i dont drive a honda, but dont all wrenches turn the same way? we got chilton, internet and a bit of knowledge right there. i bet you can be running 5-7 psi for about $1000.

 

[hkdl]

Originally posted by Damn 2nd Gear

i bet you can be running 5-7 psi for about $1000.

 

[dsmrunnah95]

Originally posted by Fez1085
Yeah, i agree.. 20 grand is way too much of an estimate.. i'd guess it'd be around 5-6grand at MOST.. you could go two ways with this.. you could either buy a new 2.2L stroker kit from Howell Automotive (www.howellautomotive.com) or you could just buy new pistons and rods. I would rather buy new pistons and rods, b/c i've read that our stock 420a bottom ends are strong enough. anyways, pistons and rods will cost you about 1 grand.. and a turbo kit will be around 3ishy-grand. Its expensive as hell.. but probably well worth it all.
Since i'm a 2g, and you're a 1g, i think our engines are different... so i dont know about your bottom end. But i know with stock internals.. you could at most hit 7psi. But the other forums on 2gnt are really good information, so go check it out

I'd say that more than 7psi is achievable with better fuel system. They have 9.0:1 c/r stock so the tuning window would be smaller but I'd say upwards of 10-12psi would be within reach.

 

[Fez1085]

well i mean, if you do get a turbo kit, granted you are going to wear down your engine faster.. and its a given you will increase that rate more by turning up the boost.. so you could run 10-12 psi.. but i mean, its just increasing the chance of killing your engine.

 

[GSGoinFast]

non intercooled 5-7 is safe, intercooled, i believe up to 10 is safe but its pushing it.

 

[Erix]

Yeah i found out recently that my car has a 1.8 4g37 engine in it so this sux really bad i think im just gonna sell it after i get it painted cuz theres nthing i can really do for it

 

[hkdl]

Engine Swap?

 

[Erix]

That would work if i could find a good enigine that has'nt been diven to its death. Could i buy a new one and how much would it coast?

 

[timloomis]

build a 4g63t like me,.cheaper than new