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bSQUAREd

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Oct 24, 2004
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Hey, I have a 98 GS right now and I have about $7k in the bank. I was saving up and going to get a GSX, but decided I didnt want to go broke over it, so I think I might put a little money into the GS. ($3kish)

I have now decided that I am going to get some new rims for my GS, and a short throw shifter. My question is if I were to get a cat-back exhaust and a CAI would I be able to actually feel any difference in the car when I drive it? If, this will give my GS some more pep, I am going to do these mods, but if it wont help out too much, I am going to use that money on a stereo system instead.

So, will a cat-back and a CAI affect my performance enough to make it worth the money? Also, if you have any other suggestions on what to do to my N/T please fire away. I'm not going to do nitrous, but I would maybe consider a turbo kit, depending on price and reliablitiy.

Thanks
 
IF you already have 7 grand in the bank PLUS what you could get for selling your car, you could get an AWESOME condition 2g gsx.

But if you want to keep the gs, you will notice a little gain from intake/exhaust. But like many people will tell you, there arent too many(if any) mods that will really make a huge difference besides turbo. With 7 grand to work with though(assuming you can spend it all), you could have a pretty reliable turbo'd GS monster.
 
Turbo ;)
 
It depends man on what your goal is, TURBO is AWESOME, but if speed isn't your whole goal and you want just a nice ride I say go for the cat-back and CAI.
The reason I say that is because with the turbo kit, your going to be spending some serious dough on it. Probably in the end with the gauges and all you'll be spending over your 3k limit especially if your buying rims and tires.

So its up to you, turbo is definately a worth while addition, but if your not serious about going a lil faster, and want to spend over your 3K limit then you might want to stick with the CAI/Exhaust/Headers route, and maybe get some light port polishing job on the head and intake manifold.

Also how much do u want that stereo system? And how are u sure you won't be buying another car anytime soon, consider that before dropping the cash on the turbo kit.

Don't get me wrong I love being turbo, and you would too, but its a serious investment into your car, and you better make it worth while.
 
Alright guys, thanks for all the feedback.

I have narrowed it down to 2 different options.

1 - Sell the GS and use all of my money to get a 97-99 GSX

2 - Keep the GS and get exhaust, CAI, short throw, rims, and some coilovers

I decided I would rather just buy a turbo car then turbo the GS. I don't know if I should buy a GSX or just do a little bit to my GS. If I got the GSX I would be completely broke, but I'm in high school, so I dont have to pay rent or anything like that. But I also dont know if its worth putting the money into the GS either.....decisions decisions
 
There is no reason to use all the money to buy a gsx though. I would still sell your non turbo and buy a gsx or tsi awd. You can get them for less then 10,000 so you'd still have some money left. Being in high school that money is going to be needed for other things pretty soon. Its a pretty good savings and I wouldn't waste all of it on a car at your age. (Im not much older so trust me I'm not bashing you for your age). I would say buy a low mileage or rebuilt engine 95-96 or a 1G, you should be able to have money left over. Make sure you shop around though, don't buy the first one you see, make sure it has been well taken care of first.
 
Thats going to be a tough descsion. if you do keep your GS don't think you can't go broke spending more money than you thought you would on it.
If you buy the sell the GS and add the money to your savings to buy a 2g GSX, you shouldn't be modded that car for a while in order to have money for other things.
 
Everyone on here says that you can find GSXs for under $10k, but up here in Minnesota, I never see them. Right now on carsoup there are three GSXs:

A 1997 with 63k miles for $10,500. It has a few bolt on mods, but its an automatic

A 1999 with 122k miles for $9,000. Its stock and automatic. Under $10k, but lots of miles and auto

A 1998 with 63k miles for $10,999. It has an evo III 16g, but thats the only mod (not even a boost gauge). Also its burgundy, and I dont like that color.

All of these have been on the website for awhile now, and there havent been any new ones added recently. I don't think I have ever seen one that is under $11,000 even that has good mileage, and is in good condition.

So, I don't know where you guys live where you find GSXs for under $10,000 all the time, but it just doesnt happen here in Minnesota
 
Sorry I didn't consider that you were in Minnesota, but keep looking on DSMtuners classifieds, dsmtrader, dsmtalk, autotrader, etc... Something might eventually pop up that will catch your eye. If you just want to have a little fun with your eclipse that you have right now, get a cheap intake off ebay and maybe a pacesetter short throw shifter or one of the less expensive ones. Just makes your ride a little more fun, I personally always end up doing a lil something to everyone of my vehicles, kinda makes it more personalized.
 
Look at it this way and make your decision.

GS Pros- You could turbo your GS and have a car that you made 3 seconds faster or more than stock. Nothing gives me more satisfication than having a 4g63 guy drool over my 420a. Very low insurance rates.

GS Cons- Turbo kit will blow your motor, how long is the question. Which means your going to rebuild.

GSX Pros - You'll be running 14's stock. You have AWD. For not much money you can be in the low 13's

GSX Cons- You have the weak as hell GSX Tranny (I've watch stock GSX's blow these to pieces) Insurance Rates.
 
in my opinion if you are to keep the GS and put a turbo on it, seems like even though you could put the turbo kit on for not much money, that you would have to keep doing repairs, so it would help if you had another car, so you can have time to work on the GS. If you were to purchase the GSX, then you would have problems like you would have with any new purchase of a car, just normal stuff that most people dont fix. But if you just want to have a car and have some fun, keep the GS do some bolt-ons, and have fun with it. then if down the road you want to upgrade it drastically, then either turbo the car you have or sell and buy new. personally i would just turbo wat i have but that is wat i like, some thing personal that you dont see too often.
 
I'm kicking myself for not having the cash available right now to buy the 1991 white on white TSi AWD 5spd with only 80k on it that's selling on Autotrader less than 20 miles away from me for only $4700. You just have to shop around.

Personally, I'm getting tired of working on cars all the damn time. I think I'm going to possibly call it quits with Daisy after she gets a decent makeover and use her for a semi-reliable, 35mpg in town with the AC on daily driver.

I know I'll be able to find a beater 1G turbo one of these days that I can fix up to beat on at the track or whatever and then can let it sit for months at a time if I'm not feeling like ####ing with it.

The first thing you need to do is establish your goals, kid. Are you dead set on drag racing and hauling ass? Or do you just want something nice that you can tinker with while you're in college? If you want to go as fast as you possibly can for the least amount of money, it's called 1G turbo. If you want something pretty looking and reliable, it's called 2GNT with bolt ons.
 
Well guys, I've finally made up my mind for sure. I'm going to just keep the GS and do a little modding to it. I am about to order my short throw shifter. I decided that I didn't want to spend all of my money on a car, so no GSX. Plus I know that my GS is in good condition and is reliable. If I bought a GSX it could end up being a lemon, and really put me into debt.

Here are the mods I plan on:
-Short Throw
-Rims and tires
-Cat-Back Exhaust
-Stereo System


I also kind of want to get some springs to lower the car too, but I don't know that its a good idea when I live in Minnesota (it snows everyonce and awhile).

Also if you guys could tell me what kind of exhaust you have on your car and some feedback on how you like it, that would be great, uhm k. I don't want my car sounding like a civic rice burner.

If you have any other suggestions, please tell me.

Thanks
 
I had a Ractive exhaust when I was N/T... loved the way it sounded. Nice and deep. I have a Tanabe now, but its 3". As far as springs go, get a Eibach Pro kit. The best ride I've ever experienced.
 
Alright, thanks for the quick response. The exhaust inst too ricey? and do you think I could get through the snow with the eibachs? Anyone in snowy areas have experience with a lowered eclipse?

Also, I am looking into the Apexi N1, I have seen a video of a green 99 GS with the turbo wing on it and carbon fiber taillights. I believe it has the N1 on it, if anyone knows what video I am talking about please tell me if it is the N1, because I really liked the sound of it. It didnt seem to ricey at all.
 
Exhaust, go with; greddy,HKS, Apexi N1, and Tusdo

If you want to drop your car with springs, dont' forget the shocks (illuminas/koni yellows do the best trick imo)

If you want to save money and are worried about snow, why don't u just get your rims and tires done first, and after a while see if you like the look of the car, and then see if its worth it to lower it.

Don't forget the other end of the air flow, Got to get some kind of intake in there if you dont' already have one. And headers aren't too expensive either and will add some low-mid range torque to the car.

Good luck
 
 
Alright thanks guys. Which intake and headers would you recommend? Also, I have never done any performance mods to a car. I've only done a little bit of electrical stuff with my GS. Can I install all of this by myself? Will I be able to install a cat-back exhaust by myself? What parts/tools would I need?
 
Most people will recommend the megan racing header off of ebay and just another ebay brand intake. You shouldnt have any sort of problem installing these as long as you have some simple mechanical knowledge. The only hard part you will come across is trying to get the stock parts off(exhaust, header) since the bolts/nuts over time get rusty and like to seize up. PB blaster and air tools will help quite a bit.
 
bSQUAREd said:
Everyone on here says that you can find GSXs for under $10k, but up here in Minnesota, I never see them. Right now on carsoup there are three GSXs:

A 1997 with 63k miles for $10,500. It has a few bolt on mods, but its an automatic

A 1999 with 122k miles for $9,000. Its stock and automatic. Under $10k, but lots of miles and auto

A 1998 with 63k miles for $10,999. It has an evo III 16g, but thats the only mod (not even a boost gauge). Also its burgundy, and I dont like that color.

All of these have been on the website for awhile now, and there havent been any new ones added recently. I don't think I have ever seen one that is under $11,000 even that has good mileage, and is in good condition.

So, I don't know where you guys live where you find GSXs for under $10,000 all the time, but it just doesnt happen here in Minnesota
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I agree with that. GSX's here in MN are hard as heck to find for a good price.
Thats one of the reasons i went with a N/T and will turbo charge it.
 
So if I get an Apexi N1 Cat-back its is completely bolt on?

Black Raptor, are you going to the All Mitsu Cookout in Rogers on the 21st?
 
I am thinking about going to the cookout.
Depends if i can sucker a friend into coming with. Don't feel like going there alone.

You going?
 
I have an Injen Cold Air Intake on my N/T. I love it and there was only minor fabbing to the bracket that secures your upper pipe to the valve cover. Has a good sound to it, it's cheaper than AEM (but equal in quality), and also increases your mpg :thumb:
:dsm:
 
I was thinking of going with the injen, because it is cheaper, good to hear you like it.

BlackRaptor, yes I will be at the cookout, you should go
 
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