My turbo setup for a 1G N/A

[casper_talon]

Hey everyone, I have plans to make my car turbo, only to run about 8psi, since the car has 9.0:1 pistons and I don't want to go for crazy power now. The car is a 1G 94' Talon ES, it has:
a good condition motor (180 psi on all cylinders),
new water pump, hyd. tensioner and belt,
balance shafts removed
good oil pump (has about 80-90 psi on start-up and 30 psi after warm-up)
blocked EGR valve
full 2.5" exhaust from downpipe to muffler, with no bends
magnaflow 2.5" muffler (twin tip, almost stock look)
turbo fuel pump, rewired (car has 45psi on idle, about 55-60 on WOT)
all 4 engine mounts are Red Polyurethane (not inserts, full mounts)
6 puck clutch with 2100 pressure plate

Okay, the turbo set-up I'm going to use is:
2G ported manifold (someone said it has a twin scroll thing)
Evo 8 MR FMIC
Evo 8 MR blow-off ( silver color)
Adjustable fuel pressure regulator (malpassi)
Garrett .60 AR compressor, .48 AR stage 3 turbine wheel, inlet and exhaust ported
External wastegate, think I'm going 38mm
all IC piping is metal, not rubber
Autometer Boost, Oil pressure, Air/Fuel, gauges

I still need the:
boost controller, (manual or electric?)
turbo timer
friend is going to give APEX SAFC II
datalogger
maybe bigger inyctors? ( 390cc or 450cc?)

I know it won't bolt up to the manifold, I'm getting a T3 flange for it. Also using an external wastegate. The oilpan has the tap for the return line, i still need the line from the turbo to it, and the one going to the turbo. It's not water cooled, so that saves me something.The reason I'm using that set-up is because I spent about $260 for almost everything, except the wastegate. I'm still going to rebuild the turbo so it can last longer and work better from a start. Any suggestions, comments, help is welcomed and really appreciated. Thanks!!

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Turbo

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Manifold

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Fuel Pressure Reg.

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Blow-off

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Intercooler

 

[1fastlaser]

Sounds like you got most of it covered. But acouple things to take into consideration. I would get a walbro 255 or a evo 8 fuel pump if you dont wanna spend to much (I got one for 30 bucks shipped if you want it ) I wouldnt really trust a stock turbo pump. I would definatly run the 450cc injectors atleast. Besides that, tune it on a wideband and a logger for little to no knock. Crank the boost up. You should be able to run 15-20 psi with no issue just stay on the tune!!! Its amazing what can be done when everything is singing together

 

[blcknspo0ln]

From the second picture, is that turbo missing a turbine wheel !?!?!

 

[mavisky]

If you're only wanting to run 8 psi pick up a 14b for $100 online somewhere. Bolts right on and will make more than enough power at 8psi without being overly laggy.

 

[casper_talon]

The pic that looks like it's missing a wheel is oil that was on that one, and the camera made it look like it's missing. I also reacted the same way with the picture when I saw it on computer, but it's complete .
I was going to stick with that turbo, because at about august and october I get about $1,500, so with that I was going to change the pistons so I can run more boost, and since I got the turbo for $50 it was a good deal. (Dude you won the march contest at the other dsm site, congrats!)
I would be really interestd in that fuel pump, but I live in Puerto Rico, and right now I ran into a problem, at school there's a lot of wind, and when I opened the door, it slammed onto the car next to mine, and the owner was inside the car, so I have to pay for the damage(sucks big time). It's about $150, but that was money for my car , so I have to hold up a bit for now. I also wanted to ask, I've seen pictures of intercoolers that are mounted kind of tilted, like at a 45 or 60 angle, is there a benefit to that? Should I try that, of is it better to cut part of the bumper bar and the bumper? Thanks for all your replies!

 

[casper_talon]

Also, from the picture of the manifold, what's the division on the exhaust hole, is that normal? Sorry for the question, is that I saw an evo 8 one, and it also had that. I want to know if that benefits or what part it plays in the manifold. Thanks!

 

[mavisky]

Well first off that turbo won't bolt to that exhaust manifold so that'll be your first bit of fun to figure out. Secondly I can verify that there is damage to one of the compressor blades. I'd seriously question why you got a turbo of that size (probably runs between $700-$1500 depending on exactly what it is) for only $50.

I'd seriously look into replicating a 1g stock tsi fwd as closely as possible as that will make the car the absolute most reliable it can be. There are alot of issues in going from a fwd nt to a fwd turbo that I've dealt with and the car was never more reliable than once I went to a full turbo ecu, wiring harness, transmission, and fuel system.

 

[casper_talon]

Yeah there's a chipped blade on the compressor wheel, but I already got a replacement wheel for it. I also found the T3 flange for it for $25, and a shop is going to weld the T3 flange to the manifold, and I'm attaching the wastegate to the top of the manifold in the center. And I had to drive a looong way to get the turbo, so with the gas cash and food money, it's about $75 for the turbo. I'm also getting a rebuild kit for the turbo, so that's about $75 more, so I estimate about $150 for the rebuilt turbo. Hope that's okay.