My stutterbox launching technique

[ceedawg]

I will try your tech to see if it works better because it does make sense but my only point would be the other way(flooring it) yoru cutting out the giving more gas step so that should be quicker but still great tip

And perhaps harder on the drivetrain.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

I figure since it's not giving you anymore gas, anymore spark, etc. when it's only at the point to where the stutterbox kicks in, there's really no point in having to hold it to the floor. If anything, it just makes it easier to accidently burn the clutch up, and if you're on a "street" or organic disc, it's really something you can afford to do unless you like changing out clutches a lot. If it's at 1/2 throttle, you can feel the engagement point a lot easier.

my only point would be the other way(flooring it) yoru cutting out the giving more gas step so that should be quicker

Are you trying to say flooring it should be better??? Or the way I'm doing it? Everyone has their own opinion. Just couldn't tell what you were trying to say so just thought I'd ask.

 

[Slippi84]

I figure since it's not giving you anymore gas, anymore spark, etc. when it's only at the point to where the stutterbox kicks in, there's really no point in having to hold it to the floor. If anything, it just makes it easier to accidently burn the clutch up, and if you're on a "street" or organic disc, it's really something you can afford to do unless you like changing out clutches a lot. If it's at 1/2 throttle, you can feel the engagement point a lot easier.



Are you trying to say flooring it should be better??? Or the way I'm doing it? Everyone has their own opinion. Just couldn't tell what you were trying to say so just thought I'd ask.

With driving tech there is no universal better or worse but I would think it would be EASIER to do it by just holding it down. As fast as you slip your clucth with the gas half way or 3/4 the way down however far it takes to get to 5k is the same speed and amount you slip it when it's floored if that makes sense just you cut out the giving it gas part.

Cedawg is right think it may be harder on your drivetrain but it's like NLTS you sacrafice longevity for performance. I actually do it your way myself just not on a 2step yet Im just playing devils advocate.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

I'm just trying to figure out how ya'll would think it'd be harder on the drivetrain, aside from having a better launch.

 

[Slippi84]

I'm just trying to figure out how ya'll would think it'd be harder on the drivetrain, aside from having a better launch.

Not your way the flooring it way would be harder on the trans

 

[Auto RS T]

I'm a believer in this method.

It's just like you say. It allows you to feel the engagment point and get your footwork right and in synch.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Not your way the flooring it way would be harder on the trans

Gotcha

 

[KYNgsx]

My fuel map is richened up in the WOT 6500 rpm area, so it dumps way too much fuel and makes my car bog if I'm sitting on the 2-step at WOT for too long. This technique is a good way to avoid that.

 

[soldave]

Interesting ideas there, and thanks for them. My current launching technique is different on the roads and the "circuit" here in Okinawa. On the road I let the clutch up to just below the biting point (so as to get the slack out of the drivetrain), engage the handbrake and then floor the throttle, building up boost. No bogging at launch but sometimes a tiny bit of spinning (I use Potenza RE-01 tyres and not drag radials). The drag strip we have here has a surface like a damn ice rink so my technique is different. There I do the same with the clutch and handbrake, but I only build up boost on the launch control up to about 0psi before launching.

Might try this technique though on the street. If it gives me good traction in 1st then it could help me when I hit 2nd too

 

[Slippi84]

Interesting ideas there, and thanks for them. My current launching technique is different on the roads and the "circuit" here in Okinawa. On the road I let the clutch up to just below the biting point (so as to get the slack out of the drivetrain), engage the handbrake and then floor the throttle, building up boost. No bogging at launch but sometimes a tiny bit of spinning (I use Potenza RE-01 tyres and not drag radials). The drag strip we have here has a surface like a damn ice rink so my technique is different. There I do the same with the clutch and handbrake, but I only build up boost on the launch control up to about 0psi before launching.

Might try this technique though on the street. If it gives me good traction in 1st then it could help me when I hit 2nd too

Wow I knew tuners was world wide but I didn't know that you guys on the other side of the river were on here great to see ppl all around chippin in . Anyway how do you manage to not burn up the clutch though while holding it at just before biting point and flooring it? Sounds like it would be good speed wise but idk if I would have the guts to do that.

 

[Killa_dsm]

Thats a very interesting concept. I use to use this same technique when I was still fwd on street tires. Since pressing the gas to the floor would just lead to spinning. And most of the time launching like that worked great.

But now that I'm awd holding the gas down to WOT and launching hasnt become a problem. For me slipping it slow and holding the clutch right when it grabs seems to work. But this is on a 6puck so it might be different with people running street disks, not sure tho.

And if I remember right preloading on a normal clutch isnt very healthy for it. Preloading works best on twin clutch setups.

To each his own. Everyone has a different technique and you just need to find whats right for you. This thread is great for people having launching problems and would be nice for people to try out!

 

[soldave]

Wow I knew tuners was world wide but I didn't know that you guys on the other side of the river were on here great to see ppl all around chippin in . Anyway how do you manage to not burn up the clutch though while holding it at just before biting point and flooring it? Sounds like it would be good speed wise but idk if I would have the guts to do that.

Well I don't go as far as preloading the clutch - as said in the post above that would put a lot of stress on a super single clutch. I am still getting used to finding this position on the clutch but am getting much better after a few launches. The way I found the point is like this. Start the car and take the handbrake off. Engage clutch and put the car into 1st. Now very slowly lift your foot off the clutch. Soon you will feel the car start to want to move forward as the clutch engages. Push the clutch back down a tiny amount so there is no perceivable force pushing it forward. That is the point I am launching from.

And there are a couple of people here in Okinawa, Japan, who have early Evos and so frequent the DSM forums for technical info

 

[Killa_dsm]

Start the car and take the handbrake off. Engage clutch and put the car into 1st. Now very slowly lift your foot off the clutch. Soon you will feel the car start to want to move forward as the clutch engages. Push the clutch back down a tiny amount so there is no perceivable force pushing it forward. That is the point I am launching from.

And there are a couple of people here in Okinawa, Japan, who have early Evos and so frequent the DSM forums for technical info

Yeah thats how I figure out where the clutch engages at too. I also teach people how to drive a stick without using the gas, like described to learn the feel of the clutch.

I'm in Japan as well but in Osaka. Just for the summer though since I come here every summer.

 

[soldave]

Yeah thats how I figure out where the clutch engages at too. I also teach people how to drive a stick without using the gas, like described to learn the feel of the clutch.

I'm in Japan as well but in Osaka. Just for the summer though since I come here every summer.

Cool. Very quick threadjack but whatcha up to in Osaka?

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Just wondering if anyone's tried it yet. Curious as to how other people like it compared to the old "wot" technique.

 

[1fastlaser]

Just wondering if anyone's tried it yet. Curious as to how other people like it compared to the old "wot" technique.

its definatly a good method, because you can kinda take your mind off of the clutch petal location. Im on a twin disk so i load of the drivetrain, but when you know your right at the engagement point, and have the gas petal right close on the 2 step, you less likely to dump the clutch, or not have control of the gas