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Manifold

Posted by Pat026, Dec 6, 2018

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  1. Pat026

    Pat026 Proven Member

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    can anyone identify this manifold currently have a pacesetter on my 1g I’m looking to trash I figured I’d go to this this till I could afford an fp manifold and if anyone knows what the flange is for do not have one on my current manifold. Thanks
     

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  2. motomattx

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    Looks similar to the FP manifold, the flange is for a external two bolt wastegate.
     

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  3. Pat026

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    It looks cast I can’t tell to be honest I have no idea what brand, I can close the flange right if I’m using an internal?
     

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  4. motomattx

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    Yeah, you can close it off.
     

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  5. JusMX141

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    Stock 2G manifold that someone welded an external gate flange to. I'd just sell this to someone looking for such a manifold and buy one that doesn't have the wastegate flange on it if you don't plan to use it.

    Depending what turbo you're using, I highly recommend skipping the FP Race manifold and keeping something stockish. The FP manifold costs more spool than it will give you in horsepower in the sub-500hp range unless you're trying to set records on a track-only small-turbo car.
     

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  6. Pat026

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    I may upgrade in the future but I have an 18g need to get rid of this crappy pacesetter
     

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  7. JusMX141

    JusMX141 Moderator

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    For an 18G you will never need more than what a ported 2G or Evo III manifold can do for you.
     

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  8. Pat026

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    I’ll take it to machining shop this weekend for porting thank you both for the help there was also a hole drilled on the manifold looks like it was tapped by cylinder 4, Thinkin maybe for a pyrometer.
     

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  9. Pat026

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    If I was to go external any suggestions?
     

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  10. dexterholland04

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    If you wanted to go external off of that manifold: You would need to weld the stock wastegate orifice shut in the turbine housing. That manifold is setup to run a TiAL F38 wastegate. You would need the wastegate, some metal gaskets, and a dump tube.

    Also, put a pipe plug in the hole that was put in cylinder 4.
     

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  11. fredom dsm

    fredom dsm Proven Member

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    How bout a 20g Justin? I dont mean to get off topic but I do feel a slight loss in spool up. I have a 20g that you built for me (thank you very much Sir:applause:) and its a td05. Its not horrible but not what you would expect, so im wondering if its because my FP manifold?
     

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  12. Pat026

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    Cool thanks got some work ahead me
     

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  13. JusMX141

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    It is. Switch to an Evo III manifold or a 2G manifold with the collector ported to 60mm and the lazy response shall cease.
     

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  14. Pat026

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    I can’t use a pipe plug the hole is too small I only found 3/8 it’s smaller maybe metric maybe a bolt? If so what grade I know the manifold gets hot
     

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  15. motomattx

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    In that case I would just weld it shut, a bolt could melt and fall into the turbine.
     

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  16. Pat026

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    Good point, flux cored ok or should it be tig welded
     

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  17. motomattx

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    If you heat it up red hot first then flux core should work good enough.
     

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  18. Pat026

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    So torch and mig welder is adequate? Cool or pipe plug if I could find one galvanized steel? No bolt thanks
     

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