manifold waste gate location?

[cody92talon]

ok so i know its better to have the waste gate port running off the collector but what is it hindering if it doesnt? Is it a must on my 600hp goal? The reason i ask is because i want a cast manifold and was going to get erl's manifold that comes of the collector but i found a turbonetics cast t3 manifold for $200 but the gate provision comes out of #1 runner. i would like to save the cash for other areas of the car if i can. but i wont if it needs to be off the collector. so my question is which one should i get for my goal? will the turbonetics one be good for me? thanks for the input

 

[JusMX141]

Drawing from the collector is a much better idea. Placing the gate on one of the runners does seem to work, but it doesn't offer optimal boost control in some cases, and you'll always be limited to a 38mm bolt-on gate instead of the more modern and slimmer MVS gates.

The Turbonetics-style manifolds were great 10 years ago, but they're definitely old tech by today's standards. Keep in mind that 10 years ago there were hardly any DSM's making 600whp.

The ERL unit is the cream of the crop as far as cast manifolds are concerned.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

This has been answered several times in the past...

What happens when it takes more exhaust gases ventilated to control boost than 1 combustion chamber can supply? Do you really want the exhaust gases to revert away from the turbine wheel, flip a 180*, and head UP your #1 runner?

Skip the turblownetics, and save up for the ERL or a properly gated manifold / turbine housing.

 

[turboglenn]

wow this can of worms again eh?> .. yea, it's old hat, but on the other hand i've ran my turbonetics t3 mani without a single issue along with it's t3/t4 turbo for almost 9 years and 100k+ miles without issue... ran for years at 17-19 psi, now have been running for 3 years at aconstant 27-30psi without a single issue (along with the nitrous when needed and still no issues on a single 38 gate)

but then agian i'm just a nobody and don't ahve the cash todays guys have to spend while keeping up with the joneses

go with what you can afford that isn't junk, it can be a great combo, hell people are still making killer HP on stock manifolds and holsets with BEP housings, so take it for what it is.. you can always block the runner gate hole and add the gate to the turbo's turbine housing for ultimate control, that's the real ticket IMO asa the gasses have merged and are denser thus more actual gas is getting out of the same area under more pressure

 

[cody92talon]

ok thanks for the help guys i was leaning toward the erl but was hoping to save a little $ but its alright id rather do it the best way and just take a little bit longer