Lifter/rocker arm delima

[zantrick]

I have the cams at the correct timming marks, but not all the valves are closed. I took out all the lifters and rocker arms and put them in a tub of oil, where they sat for 3 days or more. Now when I am looking at the lifters not all of them are sticking out the same amount. I did not put the lifters or the rocker arms back in their original position. Help, yes please

 

[gofer]

You need to drain the oil in the lifters (lash adjusters) before putting them back in the head. This write up is PERFECT, just an FYI though your lifters will make A LOT of noise at the initial start up of your motor. You just need to drive alittle bit to get the increase oil pressure and get oil in the head.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-engine-fuel/265060-how-replace-lash-adjusters-lifters.html

 

[zantrick]

What a job thats was.. I am soo glad the lady at the corner store gave me three clips Do you have to do that to the lifters everytime you take off the cams? Thanks for link btw. Do you have one on how to put it back in time and mount the head? I wouldn't have to mess with craigslist ASE sertified mechanics . Cheers

 

[knochgoon24]

vfaq.com has the timing tutorial.

I bleed my lifter every time I have the cams out. I'd rather not risk bending a valve.

Here's how loud they may be once you fire it up again.
YouTube - 4g63 - Bled lifters first start up

I had a few that kept ticking, even after 15 minutes of idling, until I took it out for a drive.

 

[liquidz28]

What a job thats was.. I am soo glad the lady at the corner store gave me three clips Do you have to do that to the lifters everytime you take off the cams? Thanks for link btw. Do you have one on how to put it back in time and mount the head? I wouldn't have to mess with craigslist ASE sertified mechanics . Cheers

mount the head on the studs, normal tightness from center out on the bolts in a criss cross pattern.

1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12


i would go 3,10,8,6,7,12,2,5,beer,9,4,11,1
then torque to spec same order.

timing is easy, put cyl 1 to TDC, install head, cams, gears, making sure all marks are alligned, also be quite defitate your balance shafts are aligned (if equiped) cam gears to have mark lined up perfectly, along with everything else on the belts run, like so...

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and if you end up with this......

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take the belt back off and rotate your rear balance shaft one full rev and put belt back on, the shaft is counter balanced, so has to be in there the right way ;p (again if equiped)

 

[knochgoon24]

I still have to recommend this for doing the timing:
Timing Belt VFAQ
MUCH more complete.


And here's another nifty article.
DOHC DSM camshaft & lifter install

 

[BogusSVO]

before you install the head
you may want to do this mod.... and if the head has been milled you should....

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/341028-4g63t-head-oil-port-mod.html

 

[zantrick]

Well got everything back together and now no spark >< When in the car sometimes when you turn the key it wont turn over and you hear a sound inside the car like behind the radio I think. Idk, for sure getting fuel and air. Any ideals? Thanks alot guys.

 

[Arrow_Runner]

That sound is the computer clicking, which is normal. Silly question, but did you hook up the spark plug wires in the right order?

 

[zantrick]

Yea, not getting spark through any ports on the ignition coil.

 

[gofer]

Well got everything back together and now no spark >< When in the car sometimes when you turn the key it wont turn over and you hear a sound inside the car like behind the radio I think. Idk, for sure getting fuel and air. Any ideals? Thanks alot guys.

When you turn the key to the "ON" position does the check engine light come on for 5 seconds and then go out? If the clicking happens when you turn the key to start the car the "clicking" your hearing is a starter relay behind the radio.

There are two relays behind your stereo, ones the multiport fuel injector (MFI) relay and the other is the fuel pump relay. Its the MFI relay you probably hear clicking when your trying to start the car if you know your getting fuel to the fuel rail.

 

[zantrick]

Yep getting fuel to the rail and the check engine light comes on for 5 sec and I hear clicking behind the dash after tring to start it.

 

[gofer]

Yep getting fuel to the rail and the check engine light comes on for 5 sec and I hear clicking behind the dash after tring to start it.

Look through these threads, thats whats clicking and thats what you need to replace.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/263224-mfi-mpi-relay.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/276071-mfi-fuel-pump-relay.html

 

[zantrick]

Ending up I had the AC and the CPS mixed up. Fires fine now ^^ Thanks for all the information guys. All the support here is exactualy why I love my DSM. Your not going to find the caliber of knowledge that you find here just anywhere.
Great site.

 

[big john 2 g]

i gust got a set of new Mitsubishi OEM Rocker Arm for my 95 dsm 2 g and the hole ware the lifter gos is a lot smaller than the old ones need help ### thank you

 

[gofer]

Take a picture of the hole diameter please...

 

[DGajre777]

i gust got a set of new Mitsubishi OEM Rocker Arm for my 95 dsm 2 g and the hole ware the lifter gos is a lot smaller than the old ones need help ### thank you

Please start a new thread.