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Originally posted by Redmachine
oooohhhhhh not like I race it. why would you want to dog out a nice car by racing it. I wasn't flaming as you are now. I was being sarcastic, if only you saw the humor in that instead of whatever you are feeling. Tell me how do you feel about your mother?? Thats not how I feel your mother:D PS i wasn't hating I know fast ass m3's and fast ass ls1's you both seen your own, get over it And it sounds like YOUR the one hating on n/t's


Your wack.....and you drive a slow car.....best of both worlds loser.

Take a look up at the top of the page.... that's right "The DSM Performance Enthusiast Resource." If you don't want to go fast, why are you here moron?

You dont race because you cant beat no-one, even a SOHC Civic pulls on your N/T :thumbdown

You don't race? then why do you have performance mods listed in your wishlist like a 50 shot of nitrious, what do you plan on doing with that? OWNED....

This is how I feel about your mother, :barf: she gives bad head....:thumb:


My DSM looks nice and goes fast, and I love to race my NICE car. Go sell your car and buy a real DSM :thumbdown


:laugh: Why the hell would I hate on a N/T ? I look better and go faster, I think its the other way around, don't you wish you had a Turbo.
 
Notice that the //M3 took off early? He didn't win that one. Just look at the starting lights. I'm pretty sure he red light. The green light never even lit up.

My cousin owns a 98 M3 & I walk all over that like a behatch on drugs. But a 03 would eat yo mama's cake for breakfast boy cause a stock eclipse is slow as funk. my 2 cents..reality check...common noobs.
 
Originally posted by Powers_Vang
Notice that the //M3 took off early? He didn't win that one. Just look at the starting lights. I'm pretty sure he red light. The green light never even lit up.

My cousin owns a 98 M3 & I walk all over that like a behatch on drugs. But a 03 would eat yo mama's cake for breakfast boy cause a stock eclipse is slow as funk. my 2 cents..reality check...common noobs.


Did you read the post at all ? I wrote and was arguing a 2003 M3 doesn't run 12.6 Bone Stock, show me where I said I can beat one? A stock DSM is by no means slow, unless you consider 14.7 BONE STOCK(Slips are in other posts) slow.


Who you calling a noob ? I have been on here longer than you and have double your posts. You just registered in March.



The M3 you provided in the video is doing a burnout, why the hell would you burn out on street tires ? he has slicks(heating them up), look at the trap speed , 106 MPH trap speed is what guys that run low 13s get, its obvious he had slicks.
 
this is from my personall experience, i ran with an m3, some rich kids parents bought him that for his 17th birthday, he just gotten the car the same day, i ran him twice, once on the highway and from a light, both times i pulled on him, and yes i do have a t25. never got to ask him what year it was, but from what happened during the race i have to assume that the car was around a 98, because there is no way in hell that i could pull on a 03 m3. 98GSTred just wanna tell you nice kill man.
 
been awhile since i have posted but i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. Ok my cousin owns a yellow 03 BMW M3 and he told me he is trying to run a 12.9 with a few mods and he doesnt have the money yet to run that kind of a time. So dont be giving BS times cause i dont believe an M3 can run 12.6 stock. CRAZY ass people..some of yall need to sell your DSM's NOW cause you dont know shit about cars. And the dude with the N/t..who are u to even talk when your car is a SLOW POS. Girls drive your n/t. I bet your car is so Ricey with 10 aluminum wings on the back yud think it gives u 100 horsepower..10 horsepower each. Your cars is probably so heavy with all your wanna be fast and the furious that your car has to be pushed up your drive way cause your little engine cant handle it. And i know this from experience and i will say it again..i use to own a 97 Eclipse RS and i spent alot of $ in mods and it was still a slow POS and i got easily beat by Lincoln Continentals, taxi cabs, buicks, and fricken heavy ass SUV's. Hell i even once lost to a 92 toyota previa. LoL it was even embarassing when a chick to the right of me wanted to talk to me at a traffic light and i had to reach over to roll down the window cause it didnt have power windows....LOL. LOL im still laughing about this..cause first i had to put the car in park, than take off my seatbelt, then reach over like a ###ot and roll down the window. And the chick just didnt even talk to me than cause she thought my car was whack. Anyways an M3 does not run 12.6. I mean i would love to have an 03 M3 but why give it so much credit that it doesnt even deserve cause its not quick enough stock to run mid 12's.

NUFF SAID..and i dont care if u disagree with my post..i certainly know more about cars than all the Brian Spilners on this board.
 
Boss I know the owner of the car personally. Lee has been racing since before I could drive and owned the fastest stock 5.0 mustang back in 1988. It took him over 2 years of racing to achieve this time in his M and beat his previous record of a 12.72. We were talking when we were at Tobyfest last weekend and he said he honestly doesn't think he could beat his 12.63 because that was as perfect as he could have driven the car. He did say he'd run 12.7's all day long. Launching at 5500rpm and power shifting which seasoned drivers know how to do without ruining their tranny's it is possible. As I said it took him over 2 years to achieve this with his car, time which car magazine testers don't have with any given car.

We are looking at renting Atco in the near future so anyone that wants to put their money where their mouth is and doesn't want to play Internet tough guy is welcome to come inspect Lee's car and see a 12.7 at least. He is looking forward to making some money. When we do rent Atco for the day I will post the info in this thread.
 
to respond to your post...I own a DSM..i could careless about an M3. But i still stay strong to my word..12.6?? Bull shi!t cough cough
 
Originally posted by fireredGST
Did you read the post at all ? I wrote and was arguing a 2003 M3 doesn't run 12.6 Bone Stock, show me where I said I can beat one? A stock DSM is by no means slow, unless you consider 14.7 BONE STOCK(Slips are in other posts) slow.


Who you calling a noob ? I have been on here longer than you and have double your posts. You just registered in March.



The M3 you provided in the video is doing a burnout, why the hell would you burn out on street tires ? he has slicks(heating them up), look at the trap speed , 106 MPH trap speed is what guys that run low 13s get, its obvious he had slicks.

I meant to reply to the main post. BUT ANYWAYS...
Just because you've been in here talkin about how fast a 14 sec eclipse stock is don't mean you know more. By the way 14s ain't sh|t, I run 14s with my spyder & I'm slow as funk & I ain't denying it.

That M3 can't run 12.6 stock. He jumped the light(red light) & he didn't even get a win light when the time came up. & some idiots do burnouts on stock tires. Give me a stock 03 M3 & I'll walk all over a stock Eclipse ANYDAY! Even if the M3 was an auto I'd still eat that stock GSX(lets say) up.

But yea I meant to argue with the guy who posted this BS up. No harm intended. Slow is Slow & Fast is Fast.
 
Originally posted by Powers_Vang
I meant to reply to the main post. BUT ANYWAYS...
Just because you've been in here talkin about how fast a 14 sec eclipse stock is don't mean you know more. By the way 14s ain't sh|t, I run 14s with my spyder & I'm slow as funk & I ain't denying it.

That M3 can't run 12.6 stock. He jumped the light(red light) & he didn't even get a win light when the time came up. & some idiots do burnouts on stock tires. Give me a stock 03 M3 & I'll walk all over a stock Eclipse ANYDAY! Even if the M3 was an auto I'd still eat that stock GSX(lets say) up.

But yea I meant to argue with the guy who posted this BS up. No harm intended. Slow is Slow & Fast is Fast.

Your slow as funk?? No i think what it is that your GA-Y. Sell your Eclipse NOW!!! And oh by the way..a STock GST will Eat a stock Spyder GST anyday..there slower. SELL YOUR CAR NOW..14 sec is too slow man..even previas can run low 13's stock...here www.autotrader.com

After that you go buy yurself a die cast metal 2003 BMW M3...There you go..you got yurself a fast M3 that will run 12.6 1/4 time and make sure it is an auto version of the die cast series so you can eat that GSX yur talking bout.


Stupid punk
 
I dont wanna call you a NOOB since i registered a month be4 u..but ill say..DAMN NOOB..You dont know jack shit about cars..and i bet u drive an automatic all pretending u got a manual..kid.
 
Originally posted by fireredGST




The M3 you provided in the video is doing a burnout, why the hell would you burn out on street tires ? he has slicks(heating them up), look at the trap speed , 106 MPH trap speed is what guys that run low 13s get, its obvious he had slicks.

What are you arguing about? I guess you forget ET's depend alot on your 60'. I have run a mid 13 and a high 12 at the same trap speed with only a difference in the launch (60 foot)! Let's not forget M3's come with very good rubber STOCK. His trap speed should tell you FOR A FACT that it was stock. I've read about that M3 before. It was on street tire and cut a very good 60' due to an impeccably prepped track. A RWD can launch just as hard as an AWD if it can hook which in this case it did due to the reason I gave. There's no arguing it was all on video...and it was bone stock. Please..:rolleyes:


I've seen "professional" drivers cut 2.0 (even 2.2) 60's on AWD vehicles. We know regular people who can cut 1.6-1.7 60's easily, so that point was well..pointless.:D
 
Originally posted by diambo4life
What are you arguing about? I guess you forget ET's depend alot on your 60'. I have run a mid 13 and a high 12 at the same trap speed with only a difference in the launch (60 foot)! Let's not forget M3's come with very good rubber STOCK. His trap speed should tell you FOR A FACT that it was stock. I've read about that M3 before. It was on street tire and cut a very good 60' due to an impeccably prepped track. A RWD can launch just as hard as an AWD if it can hook which in this case it did due to the reason I gave. There's no arguing it was all on video...and it was bone stock. Please..:rolleyes:


I've seen "professional" drivers cut 2.0 (even 2.2) 60's on AWD vehicles. We know regular people who can cut 1.6-1.7 60's easily, so that point was well..pointless.:D


And he hooked so well why ? he had slicks. 1.7 60FT is what a great driver in an AWD gets. This is not going to be done in an M3 no matter what street tires you have, unless they are slicks.

RWD can launch as hard as an AWD (I think you need to stop smoking from the crack pipe)? LOL maybe if the car has the engine in the rear like an MR2. You don't see any Vettes on street tires outlaunching any AWD anytime soon.

Stop talking shit :rolleyes:


Internet tough guy :laugh: Why cause I am calling his time BS ? I have my opinion, you don't like it ? ignore it.


When did I rant about how fast a 14sec car is ? holy shit where do you read this ? I simply said running 14s is not slow as shit like you claim.
 
I think I feel dumber now after reading about this argument.
 
awww did I hurt someone's ego.:laugh: Go buy this car, go buy that car...hahahaha...:thumb:
 
Originally posted by fireredGST
No M3 will run 12.5 stock, if he told you that you have been lied too.

M3's the new 333hp ones are good for low 13s at best.

True that.

An 04 Z06 stock with 405 bhp with its lower weight can run only manage to run on high/mid 12s with a pro driver behind the wheel and these pushrod beasts are torque monsters.

i would say M3s in stock form are 13.2-13.4 at best

A modded M3 (Dinan!) with SMG is a whole other story.
 
Originally posted by 97ClipseDSM
Sometimes i wonder the same thing about my car. How am i smoking the hell out of these cars when i should atleast lose by a few cars. I dk but sometimes i feel like my car is not stock..though when you look under the hood it proves it it is. Its freakin quick as hell and most people that have raced me have learned the hard way.

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and many more...and this is with all stock motor


All those cars you listed are slow................
 
Originally posted by Dream On
I think I feel dumber now after reading about this argument.

I feel the same way but there is way to much shit talking going on in this thread to ignore it. So here is my 2 cents.

Originally posted by fireredGST
"GOTTA LOVE THE NEWBIES"

Ill just borrow my cousin's 700hp Supra and not even floor it and pull 10-15 cars on your M3.

Ya I really do love you guys, you provide me with all the laughs I need in a day to not want to kill myself from reading your stupid ass shit you post. Everyone has a cousin who knows, someone who has a sister, who's boyfriends dogsitters, unle owns a 700 hp this or that. If I told you my friend made 550+whp in his gs-t on pump gas would you beleive me?? probably not but I was there and that's all that matters.

Originally posted by fireredGST

RWD can launch as hard as an AWD (I think you need to stop smoking from the crack pipe)? LOL maybe if the car has the engine in the rear like an MR2. You don't see any Vettes on street tires outlaunching any AWD anytime soon.

I think you need to stop smoking the crack. RWD will out launch awd any day of the week. Look at sheps 60' times and then look at any RWD dragger tell me who's are better. Your comment about z06s is rediculous because low end power is not want you want for launching on street tires, tell me becuase you have a FWD eclipse, where do you want your power band?? I will give you a hint because it is apperant you don't know to much about dsm's to know. You want the power to come on as delayed as possible. Why so that you can get moving before trying to put down power in a FWD car.

Here is a basic lesson in physics when launching cars. The weight of the vehical is moving backwards(read this many times becuase it is very important), alright I will say it again just incase you are having some trouble reading it, The weight of a car will move BACKWARDS when launching a car. There for, for obvious reasons, FWD is the ultimate handicap when drag raccing, Now lets think of this. We have car #1 which is rwd and car #2 which is awd. The weight of the car is still moving backwards onto the rear tires. Now tell me how is that going to effect grip of the rear tires, yup you guessed it, it is going to aid in traction. Now if that is happening awd doesn't help as much as it used to does it? So who now has the advantage, the tranny destroying, massive drivetrain loss awd. Or the Less drivetrain loss rwd car??

I think shep know's more than anything about these cars and even he says himself that rwd is superior for drag racing, drag racing an awd is like drag racing a fwd once you start making some serious power. Especially in our cars that are awd designed around a fwd configuration.

Originally posted by 97ClipseDSM
Your slow as funk?? No i think what it is that your GA-Y. Sell your Eclipse NOW!!! And oh by the way..a STock GST will Eat a stock Spyder GST anyday..there slower. SELL YOUR CAR NOW..14 sec is too slow man..

Damn that's alot of shit to talk man you must be running 10's with your injen intake! Hmmm..... a gst rated at a 15.1 and a spyder rated at probably a 15.2 is going to get eaten damn that .1 second difference must be ####ing crazy noticable... I have seen stock spyders take modded gsts why beacuse of driver.

The driver of the car is simply where it comes down to real times. Did you guys know that larryD of this site had the record(and I think still does) for fastest stock celica. OMG!!! are you telling me that he beat the magazine time!!?? Firedgst you said you ran a 14.7 bone stock I don't beleive you that is close to .5 seconds faster than what car and driver said they ran in their stock eclipse so you must be lying. They are the end all to what times you can run in a car right??

Before the two of you come on here talking all this shit about being slow and having n/t. and how m3's can never run this and that time, take your head out of your ass and realize that you don't know shit about these cars yet...Source has probably forgotten more about dsm's than you will ever know. And from the attitudes you guys ahve I would swear you have mod lists that are competing with the top ten fastest dsm's yet when I check out your profile one has intake listed as their only mod and one has exhaust as the only mod. Hey fired gst do you have a timeslip or a vid of that 14.7. No wait I want a vid with your hood poped at the starting line with no breaks in the filming with 14.7 on the clocks at the end of the track before I beleive you.

Originally posted by SOURCE1064

We are looking at renting Atco in the near future so anyone that wants to put their money where their mouth is and doesn't want to play Internet tough guy is welcome to come inspect Lee's car and see a 12.7 at least. He is looking forward to making some money. When we do rent Atco for the day I will post the info in this thread.


I think this sounds like a great idea and if either of these two guys show up if you could pm me with what they ran that would be great. I would love to know how this turns out. If only I lived on that side of the states I would come to just to chill and meet with some knowledgable car enthusiasts.
 
Originally posted by fireredGST
And he hooked so well why ? he had slicks. 1.7 60FT is what a great driver in an AWD gets. This is not going to be done in an M3 no matter what street tires you have, unless they are slicks.

RWD can launch as hard as an AWD (I think you need to stop smoking from the crack pipe)? LOL maybe if the car has the engine in the rear like an MR2. You don't see any Vettes on street tires outlaunching any AWD anytime soon.

Stop talking shit :rolleyes:


Internet tough guy :laugh: Why cause I am calling his time BS ? I have my opinion, you don't like it ? ignore it.


When did I rant about how fast a 14sec car is ? holy shit where do you read this ? I simply said running 14s is not slow as shit like you claim.


You obviously have no clue on what you are talking about. Since it takes time and effort to try and explain some sense, I desist since I don't have the time or energy for it right now. The post above by 98EclipseRS sums it up. Read it, print it, read it every night before you go to bed then you will understand how flawed your reasoning is. Then....come and talk to me.:thumb:


BTW...running 14's is in deed slow as shit like you counter-claim.:shhh:
 
There is some serious flamewars going on here...Suprised a Moderator hasnt shut this post down yet...:confused:
 
"All those cars you listed are slow................"
I highly doubt a slightly modded GST could beat a newer S4
AWD twin turbo v6 owns :shhh:
 
Originally posted by 98eclipseRS
I feel the same way but there is way to much shit talking going on in this thread to ignore it. So here is my 2 cents.



Ya I really do love you guys, you provide me with all the laughs I need in a day to not want to kill myself from reading your stupid ass shit you post. Everyone has a cousin who knows, someone who has a sister, who's boyfriends dogsitters, unle owns a 700 hp this or that. If I told you my friend made 550+whp in his gs-t on pump gas would you beleive me?? probably not but I was there and that's all that matters.



I think you need to stop smoking the crack. RWD will out launch awd any day of the week. Look at sheps 60' times and then look at any RWD dragger tell me who's are better. Your comment about z06s is rediculous because low end power is not want you want for launching on street tires, tell me becuase you have a FWD eclipse, where do you want your power band?? I will give you a hint because it is apperant you don't know to much about dsm's to know. You want the power to come on as delayed as possible. Why so that you can get moving before trying to put down power in a FWD car.

Here is a basic lesson in physics when launching cars. The weight of the vehical is moving backwards(read this many times becuase it is very important), alright I will say it again just incase you are having some trouble reading it, The weight of a car will move BACKWARDS when launching a car. There for, for obvious reasons, FWD is the ultimate handicap when drag raccing, Now lets think of this. We have car #1 which is rwd and car #2 which is awd. The weight of the car is still moving backwards onto the rear tires. Now tell me how is that going to effect grip of the rear tires, yup you guessed it, it is going to aid in traction. Now if that is happening awd doesn't help as much as it used to does it? So who now has the advantage, the tranny destroying, massive drivetrain loss awd. Or the Less drivetrain loss rwd car??

I think shep know's more than anything about these cars and even he says himself that rwd is superior for drag racing, drag racing an awd is like drag racing a fwd once you start making some serious power. Especially in our cars that are awd designed around a fwd configuration.



Damn that's alot of shit to talk man you must be running 10's with your injen intake! Hmmm..... a gst rated at a 15.1 and a spyder rated at probably a 15.2 is going to get eaten damn that .1 second difference must be ####ing crazy noticable... I have seen stock spyders take modded gsts why beacuse of driver.

The driver of the car is simply where it comes down to real times. Did you guys know that larryD of this site had the record(and I think still does) for fastest stock celica. OMG!!! are you telling me that he beat the magazine time!!?? Firedgst you said you ran a 14.7 bone stock I don't beleive you that is close to .5 seconds faster than what car and driver said they ran in their stock eclipse so you must be lying. They are the end all to what times you can run in a car right??

Before the two of you come on here talking all this shit about being slow and having n/t. and how m3's can never run this and that time, take your head out of your ass and realize that you don't know shit about these cars yet...Source has probably forgotten more about dsm's than you will ever know. And from the attitudes you guys ahve I would swear you have mod lists that are competing with the top ten fastest dsm's yet when I check out your profile one has intake listed as their only mod and one has exhaust as the only mod. Hey fired gst do you have a timeslip or a vid of that 14.7. No wait I want a vid with your hood poped at the starting line with no breaks in the filming with 14.7 on the clocks at the end of the track before I beleive you.




I think this sounds like a great idea and if either of these two guys show up if you could pm me with what they ran that would be great. I would love to know how this turns out. If only I lived on that side of the states I would come to just to chill and meet with some knowledgable car enthusiasts.

Great Speech Bro, Want a cookie?
 
Originally posted by 98eclipseRS
I feel the same way but there is way to much shit talking going on in this thread to ignore it. So here is my 2 cents.



Ya I really do love you guys, you provide me with all the laughs I need in a day to not want to kill myself from reading your stupid ass shit you post. Everyone has a cousin who knows, someone who has a sister, who's boyfriends dogsitters, unle owns a 700 hp this or that. If I told you my friend made 550+whp in his gs-t on pump gas would you beleive me?? probably not but I was there and that's all that matters.



I think you need to stop smoking the crack. RWD will out launch awd any day of the week. Look at sheps 60' times and then look at any RWD dragger tell me who's are better. Your comment about z06s is rediculous because low end power is not want you want for launching on street tires, tell me becuase you have a FWD eclipse, where do you want your power band?? I will give you a hint because it is apperant you don't know to much about dsm's to know. You want the power to come on as delayed as possible. Why so that you can get moving before trying to put down power in a FWD car.

Here is a basic lesson in physics when launching cars. The weight of the vehical is moving backwards(read this many times becuase it is very important), alright I will say it again just incase you are having some trouble reading it, The weight of a car will move BACKWARDS when launching a car. There for, for obvious reasons, FWD is the ultimate handicap when drag raccing, Now lets think of this. We have car #1 which is rwd and car #2 which is awd. The weight of the car is still moving backwards onto the rear tires. Now tell me how is that going to effect grip of the rear tires, yup you guessed it, it is going to aid in traction. Now if that is happening awd doesn't help as much as it used to does it? So who now has the advantage, the tranny destroying, massive drivetrain loss awd. Or the Less drivetrain loss rwd car??

I think shep know's more than anything about these cars and even he says himself that rwd is superior for drag racing, drag racing an awd is like drag racing a fwd once you start making some serious power. Especially in our cars that are awd designed around a fwd configuration.



Damn that's alot of shit to talk man you must be running 10's with your injen intake! Hmmm..... a gst rated at a 15.1 and a spyder rated at probably a 15.2 is going to get eaten damn that .1 second difference must be ####ing crazy noticable... I have seen stock spyders take modded gsts why beacuse of driver.

The driver of the car is simply where it comes down to real times. Did you guys know that larryD of this site had the record(and I think still does) for fastest stock celica. OMG!!! are you telling me that he beat the magazine time!!?? Firedgst you said you ran a 14.7 bone stock I don't beleive you that is close to .5 seconds faster than what car and driver said they ran in their stock eclipse so you must be lying. They are the end all to what times you can run in a car right??

Before the two of you come on here talking all this shit about being slow and having n/t. and how m3's can never run this and that time, take your head out of your ass and realize that you don't know shit about these cars yet...Source has probably forgotten more about dsm's than you will ever know. And from the attitudes you guys ahve I would swear you have mod lists that are competing with the top ten fastest dsm's yet when I check out your profile one has intake listed as their only mod and one has exhaust as the only mod. Hey fired gst do you have a timeslip or a vid of that 14.7. No wait I want a vid with your hood poped at the starting line with no breaks in the filming with 14.7 on the clocks at the end of the track before I beleive you.




I think this sounds like a great idea and if either of these two guys show up if you could pm me with what they ran that would be great. I would love to know how this turns out. If only I lived on that side of the states I would come to just to chill and meet with some knowledgable car enthusiasts.




I am talking about street cars moron. How many RWD cars without slicks on the street have you seen out launch an AWD ? Idiot. Actually my cousin in fact does have a 700hp Supra, he decided he wanted to pick on a stock GS-T with a 333hp M3 I will break out the supra and blow his doors off.

Bascially....all I gotta say is go F*uck yourself. You sound like a no life b*tch, and all your butt buddys on here support you.


Learn to read idiot, A guy on this forum , with a time slip ran his GST to 14.7 BONE STOCK, not me. Can you read ? you talk alot of shit for being on the stock T25 you little queen.

I am done with this stupid ass post.....

P.S. My mod list says exhaust, LOL but my car is actually in M&B racing getting a 16G with supporting mods installed... I haven't had the car for two weeks already.


I got no DSM knowledge, LOL thats how you come at me ? I know plenty for only having my GST for 6 months.

Why are you hating on FWD ? you have one idiot.

Wait whats this , RWD can out launch AWD ?
RACE

On the street ? I dont think so....


My argument is no STOCK M3 will run a 12.6, I have no clue how it got twisted to an AWD vs RWD debate.


Noob? I registered in the same year as you, only a couple months ahead. Wow....
 
Originally posted by diambo4life
You obviously have no clue on what you are talking about. Since it takes time and effort to try and explain some sense, I desist since I don't have the time or energy for it right now. The post above by 98EclipseRS sums it up. Read it, print it, read it every night before you go to bed then you will understand how flawed your reasoning is. Then....come and talk to me.:thumb:


BTW...running 14's is in deed slow as shit like you counter-claim.:shhh:


Learn how to spell, then come talk to me.



P.S. Maybe you should actually go to school, instead of spending your life on this message board OMG
 
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    2g rear subframe brace arms. Missing one of the bushing spacers. No rust. Had someone looking...
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