91 TSi GP
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- Oct 7, 2008
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Austintown,
Ohio
Ok first of I wasnt sure what category to classify this in so I went with Bolt on. I am having some wild issues with my 1G that I cant troubleshoot and am about at my wits end. Bear with me while I write a book to explain the issues I'm having.
2 weeks again I was driving though town and my car suddenly started feeling like I was running out of fuel. I got to a parking lot got it idleing smooth again and managed to make it to BP. I put $20 in it and was convinced I was low on gas (gas gauge doesnt work). Pulled out of BP and started doing to same thing all over again not even a mile later. It's hard to explain.. feels like it was starving for fuel and/ or only running on a few cylinders. When it would do this my wideband would go dead lean also. It ended up completely dieing on me and I coasted into a parking lot. It wouldnt start back up on me at all. I was convinced now that my fuel pump was shot.
I got home and took the line off my fuel rail and turned it over and I had fuel coming out so eliminated the fuel pump idea. I then looked at the gauge on my cheap regulator and saw it was showing 0 fuel pressure. I went to Summit and bought a Aeromotive Regulator, came home installed it set base fuel pressure to 37psi and tried to start it still nothing.
After looking around a little more found that my MPI fuse was blown and I wasnt getting any spark. Replaced the fuse and it fired right up.
Everything should be good now right? Nope it was still running like it was before it died on me a few days earlier. But it is intermittent. One time i'll start it and it will be idleing fine, the next time its running like crap (like its on 2cyl or out of time).
I took my MPI relay out and tested it, came back good. Switched out the spark plugs. Swapped the Power Transistor with a known good one. I had a coil pack laying around from a '90. I know the plugs are different so i combined the 2 using the coils and bracket from the '90 and the wires and plug from my '91. Would this cause an issue?
Checked my base timing, dead on. Checked my ignition timing, 5 BTDC. I had my ecu repaired about 7 weeks ago now by Steve and everything was fixed properly so I dont think that would be the issue. Compression test came back good, and I have tons of spark on all 4 cyl (i can produce 2" lightning bolts off the valve cover). I also did a fuel pump rewire.
So now I am stumped after doing everything above with still no results. It will start fine, and one time its idleing fine the next time its running with the description I said before. If it starts and its idleing good and I go to take it for a test drive.. usually by the end of the driveway its running horrible again like its only on 2 cyl and/ or the timing is way off. If you have any idea's please fill me in because I am stumped now. thanks
91 Tsi
60 Trim, 255lph, 680's, 3" GM MAF, MAFT, SAFC, Rewired pump, etc...
Quick Recap on Everything thus far...
Fuel Pump - Ok
Regulator - Ok
ECU - rebuilt 7 weeks ago
MPI Relay - Ok
CAS - Ok
Power Transistor - Ok
Coil Pack - Ok
Rewired Fuel Pump - Ok
Timing - Ok
Plug/ Wires - Ok
Compression - Ok
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Resolved!!
After undoing all the main harness wiring everything tested fine! I retaped everything back up re-ran all wires and took it for a drive and it was STILL MESSING UP!!! WTF right, so I get home and shake the same part of the harness again, sure enough it comes and goes (2 cyl running). So I spy a few wires going to a random plug down by the subframe, i grabbed them and give them a shake and walahh there is my problem.
It was to dark to see anything so I quit for the night and the next day it was on! My injector resistor box was never nowhere to be found since ive had the car, but the previous owner relocated a few things so i never bothered looking for it. I got under the car to trace that plug and walahh there was my injector resistor box just hanging there on my exhaust and the metal casing around it was smashed causing it to ground out. I fished it out of there remounted it on the firewall and everything was perfect
2 weeks again I was driving though town and my car suddenly started feeling like I was running out of fuel. I got to a parking lot got it idleing smooth again and managed to make it to BP. I put $20 in it and was convinced I was low on gas (gas gauge doesnt work). Pulled out of BP and started doing to same thing all over again not even a mile later. It's hard to explain.. feels like it was starving for fuel and/ or only running on a few cylinders. When it would do this my wideband would go dead lean also. It ended up completely dieing on me and I coasted into a parking lot. It wouldnt start back up on me at all. I was convinced now that my fuel pump was shot.
I got home and took the line off my fuel rail and turned it over and I had fuel coming out so eliminated the fuel pump idea. I then looked at the gauge on my cheap regulator and saw it was showing 0 fuel pressure. I went to Summit and bought a Aeromotive Regulator, came home installed it set base fuel pressure to 37psi and tried to start it still nothing.
After looking around a little more found that my MPI fuse was blown and I wasnt getting any spark. Replaced the fuse and it fired right up.
Everything should be good now right? Nope it was still running like it was before it died on me a few days earlier. But it is intermittent. One time i'll start it and it will be idleing fine, the next time its running like crap (like its on 2cyl or out of time).
I took my MPI relay out and tested it, came back good. Switched out the spark plugs. Swapped the Power Transistor with a known good one. I had a coil pack laying around from a '90. I know the plugs are different so i combined the 2 using the coils and bracket from the '90 and the wires and plug from my '91. Would this cause an issue?
Checked my base timing, dead on. Checked my ignition timing, 5 BTDC. I had my ecu repaired about 7 weeks ago now by Steve and everything was fixed properly so I dont think that would be the issue. Compression test came back good, and I have tons of spark on all 4 cyl (i can produce 2" lightning bolts off the valve cover). I also did a fuel pump rewire.
So now I am stumped after doing everything above with still no results. It will start fine, and one time its idleing fine the next time its running with the description I said before. If it starts and its idleing good and I go to take it for a test drive.. usually by the end of the driveway its running horrible again like its only on 2 cyl and/ or the timing is way off. If you have any idea's please fill me in because I am stumped now. thanks
91 Tsi
60 Trim, 255lph, 680's, 3" GM MAF, MAFT, SAFC, Rewired pump, etc...
Quick Recap on Everything thus far...
Fuel Pump - Ok
Regulator - Ok
ECU - rebuilt 7 weeks ago
MPI Relay - Ok
CAS - Ok
Power Transistor - Ok
Coil Pack - Ok
Rewired Fuel Pump - Ok
Timing - Ok
Plug/ Wires - Ok
Compression - Ok
_______________________________________________________________
Resolved!!
After undoing all the main harness wiring everything tested fine! I retaped everything back up re-ran all wires and took it for a drive and it was STILL MESSING UP!!! WTF right, so I get home and shake the same part of the harness again, sure enough it comes and goes (2 cyl running). So I spy a few wires going to a random plug down by the subframe, i grabbed them and give them a shake and walahh there is my problem.
It was to dark to see anything so I quit for the night and the next day it was on! My injector resistor box was never nowhere to be found since ive had the car, but the previous owner relocated a few things so i never bothered looking for it. I got under the car to trace that plug and walahh there was my injector resistor box just hanging there on my exhaust and the metal casing around it was smashed causing it to ground out. I fished it out of there remounted it on the firewall and everything was perfect
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