Infineon Wednesday Night Drags

[pneumo]

K tnx
looks like it's in demand lately.

 

[tstkl]

well, whats next for my car won't come for a while, but I'll post the list up just for kicks and giggles. Also I would like to say dave tuned my car today, and we spent a good 4+ hours test driving/burning chips, all free of charge. I can't thank him enough for all the help he gave me today.

Fp3065 with 44mm tail wastegate and 2.5 inch fp o2 housing, (haven't decided on dump tube or recirc)
sbr exhaust manifold (might go with shear fab's tubular or some other tubular, but for now, I'll work on getting the money first)
all the oil/water lines and all that stuff.
1mm oversized valve
ported head
dual valve springs
fp2x's
dual supra tt fuel pumps with a full 8 an- feed line, high flow fuel filter, aeromotive 10 an- fuel pressure regulator, fuel injector clinic 10 an- fuel rail, and a 6 an- return line.

Its actually only a couple hundred more to go with that set up over a stock fuel rail set up because of the an- fittings. Basically, I would rather do it right and never have to worry about fuel delivery again.

Priced out, it comes to about 5.5k, I have a little under 1k now, and hopefully I can get this done by the end of the school year. I'll be doing it in stages, but I haven't broken the stages up yet. I know the fuel system will come first. Control over the fuel pressure will give me control over the timing through the maft. Increase fuel pressure, pull more airflow, lower load maps are used, timing increases.

 

[pneumo]

I don't see a boost controller on that list

I think I know why your mbc spikes so high. The ball might be getting pushed up against the other side of the chamber and sealing off on the other side. Try filing some grooves around the edges of the chamber so air has a way around the ball, even if it gets pushed all the way over.

 

[T9S1i]

so your not going for a 2.1 destroked revving to 11k anymore?
how much power are you shootin for in the long run? What bottem end are you goin with to hold the power?

Hows the car feel after the tune with dave? was it a "getting it running proper" tune, or a "lets make some power" tune?


Its official, my car is going back to as stock as i need it to pass smog, i think it'll be good for the breakin as i wont be tempted to push it as much. THen the fun begins.

Whats up with everyone else.... mahesh how are your cars comin along?

 

[MyBlack94GST]

Should have a reman'd throttle body (massive boost leak) and a freshly shimmed frankenstein 90/92 center diff in by next week. Assuming I can take care of the boost leaks, it'll be headgasket blowin' time soon!

 

[T9S1i]

thats what i like to hear! Who's doin the reman'n? FFWD?

 

[turbo2g111]

You mean sealing off the air going into the chamber exiting the boost controller? Unless the grooves were really deep, the ball could sink far enough into the intersection to block those couldn't it? If there were a way to make the intersection a different shape than the ball so that it couldn't black the entire thing. Like the Apollo 13 circle into a square problem or something.That way you wouldn't get air leaking around the ball until it hits the right psi, but the ball wouldn't seal off the intersection either. I don't know if thats really possible with simple tools, though. As long as you don't file enough material that the ball goes through.

 

[pneumo]

You mean sealing off the air going into the chamber exiting the boost controller? Unless the grooves were really deep, the ball could sink far enough into the intersection to block those couldn't it? If there were a way to make the intersection a different shape than the ball so that it couldn't black the entire thing. Like the Apollo 13 circle into a square problem or something.That way you wouldn't get air leaking around the ball until it hits the right psi, but the ball wouldn't seal off the intersection either. I don't know if thats really possible with simple tools, though. As long as you don't file enough material that the ball goes through.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. A small needle file would be able to cut some small grooves so air could go around the ball.

 

[turbo2g111]

.. or you could end up with one like mine where the screw, ball, and spring all fell out on the freeway If you did cut grooves in it, though, you would have to be hella carefull because the threads gotta stay intact on the screw on the inlet side. Otherwise you'd have a leak and be back where you started. the only thing that I can really think of is maybe making the intersection hole more like a star shape. Does anyone even have a file that small?

 

[tstkl]

thats a really good point dave, except I built tim's boost controller as well, and last time I checked, (I dunno I haven't talked about it to tim in a while) it held 12 psi reliably on his car. The difference was his didn't have that huge adapter because we were able to find a female fitting that day. I went back to home depot and couldn't find the fitting anymore.

Another weird thing is, even though we used the same part by the same company, (the main body that is) his ball apparently fell out, where mine can't fall out.

As much as your theory makes sence dave, I don't see why it would hold 21 psi one day, and shoot up to 28 psi the next. The wastegate is sticking out on my turbo, and I went crazy at it with a tac hammer, but that didn't do anything. I didn't want to do anything with a regular hammer because my radiator is right there.

Danny, the bottom end with be pauter rods and ross pistons (I think). The tune was more of a "get it running right" tune, but now that its running right, I can tune the top end much better and make more power.

I would also like to add that my wideband decided to work again, although I don't know exactly why. I've called innovate a couple times, and each time I get some guy who tells me something else I can try, and it never works, except that the wideband works/doesn't work randomly.

Dave, I thought of something that might make a lot more sence to you, you probably haven't seen this: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end.php

thats why I named the log "wtfmate"

 

[turbo2g111]

My ball fell out because the screw somehow twisted itself out. But, yeh, it was holding boost really well. That is, until it fell apart. I think that the screw we used was just crap though. Kelsey was telling me that the Ace hardware is basically the shittiest hardware you can buy, so I'll be replacing it with something else. We did use a different spring though. But, mine was stiffer wasn't it? I don't know how that would make things different. Have you opened up your mbc lately? Could the spring have broken inside somehow and be clogging things up? Remember when we cut that first spring, and then it was too much so we just put both parts of the spring in and it held varied boost?

 

[tstkl]

you know that nut that was on the end of the screw? if you make that tight, you won't have that kind of problem.

I have 47 hours of work for the month of september (not much to the working man, but to a part time student, thats a lot.) and only one of those is opening shift. And NONE ARE ON WEDNESDAY. The main reason why I love this new job is the amount of hours you can rack up in one shift. Those 47 hours are spread over 6 days. 5 closing shifts= five times I can wait as long as I want before I leave. Im going to take gameboy and stuff, because after 6:00, all the upper managment leaves and expects you to close. New turbo, HERE I COME

which wednesday you guys want to get to the track? Im thinking I might call up trans am douche and see when hes going. I redid my drivers side headlight cover, so it doesn't look retarded. Now I just need to wash the car (thank you pauls shop, boy am I lazy) and get all the goo off from the tape.


dave, I also rewired my datalogger, so it shouldn't stop anymore.

 

[turbo2g111]

you know that nut that was on the end of the screw? if you make that tight, you won't have that kind of problem.

Shut up, it was torqued down really tight.

I have 47 hours of work for the month of september (not much to the working man, but to a part time student, thats a lot.) and only one of those is opening shift. And NONE ARE ON WEDNESDAY. The main reason why I love this new job is the amount of hours you can rack up in one shift. Those 47 hours are spread over 6 days. 5 closing shifts= five times I can wait as long as I want before I leave. Im going to take gameboy and stuff, because after 6:00, all the upper managment leaves and expects you to close. New turbo, HERE I COME

Plus you get to close up with Danielle.... even though her dad is the scariest man on the face of the earth.

 

[pneumo]

New turbo HERE I COME! I redid my drivers side headlight cover, so it doesn't look retarded. Now I just need to wash the car (thank you pauls shop, boy am I lazy) and get all the goo off from the tape.

dave, I also rewired my datalogger, so it shouldn't stop anymore.

It sounds like your car is progressing nicely! Any other recent mods?

 

[MyBlack94GST]

thats what i like to hear! Who's doin the reman'n? FFWD?

Steve Monroe from www.throttlebodys.com. I'll do a review when I get it in.

 

[T9S1i]

hmmm.....
will all the planets ever align again so that all of us will have properly running dsm's at the same time??
im going to have to consult the magic 8-ball on this one... hah


So hows the progress (if any) on everyones setups?

 

[pneumo]

My car is coming along slowly. I thought it would be ready by now, but I keep running into little delays. It took me almost a whole day to get the throttlebody hooked up. I had to figure out the wiring and splice it in, then I had to modify the part where the end of the throttle cable hooks up, then make a bracket to attach the cable to the manifold, and the angle still isn't quite right. The TPS sensor only goes from like 3.7 volts to 4.5V, instead of .5 to 5 volts, so I had to add a resistor to the wiring. Now it goes from .5 to 2.3v so the car should run, but I still have to change the eprom code so I don't get a CEL.

I got the 3" uicp fabbed, but now I have to move the battery so it doesn't hit the pipe. Got the bumper and bumper cover cut up to fit the new fmic, it almost looks like my Talon has teeth.
New bottom end bearings are done, clutch and tranny are in. Turbo, intake and maf will fit.

This project has been going on so long I'm starting to think about modding my Laser again. I also saw a Mitsu Expo LRV on craigslist the other day- I think that's the one with the 2.4 motor and awd-for only $500! The last thing I need is another project car

So Danny, how's your car coming along? Or should I ask Paul?

 

[tstkl]

you should just ask paul, Im pretty sure thats where his car is anyways.

Edwin called me today because his car wouldn't idle, and I had him delete the fuel pressure regulator solinoid, so to eliminate that as the cause, I started my car today. The intercooler wasn't on, so it was running straight off the uicp, but it runs and idles. Open o2 housings sound SIIIIIICCCCKKKK by the way. I think Im going to get an exhaust that just a straight pipe down and ends under the oil pan.

the car is almost back in one peice. All thats really left to do is find out where some bolts are (I have two sets of all the bolts I need, so its a tad bit confusing since I threw them all in one pile.) and reweld a new lower radiator support beam on. I dunno how much I like pauls tree idea... But the new rack is on, the alignment should be only slightly off , and once everything is torqued down, (tomorrow or sunday), the car will be rolled into the garage for an uber overhaul. Everything will be cleaned, all the dents will be removed by yours truely (probably, I might give into a body shop), and the whole car will be cleaned. Everything will be triple checked, then once everything is all said and done, the car will be smogged, and new 245/40/17 tires will be bought for the evo rims. I might even take paint thinner to them and powder coat them black. I think Im going to paint the spoiler gunmetal grey. The new tstkl, LFT NUT, will run better than ever. (Seriously considering that licence plate) After the tires and all the repairs, I'll probably get some coil overs, since thats been on the top of my list for a LONG time, but I always ended up pushing it back for other stuff.

JIC FLT A-2's, or TEIN SS? I think spending over 1k on coil overs requires getting the top of the line, but then again, 600 more is kinda a big deal, and the ss should treat me very well.

 

[T9S1i]

well my springs finally came in on friday, i figured out how slowboy got their name....its been like how many weeks ive been waitin on them...

i had work today and i work tomorrow and monday, so im going to try to pick them up sometime b4 monday if i can, but thats doubtful.
After that, the head gets rebuilt, then it goes to pauls shop where the motor will be assembled blah blah blah, hes goin to check out the trans for me and after that slap everything in the beast and see what happens.
After that, break in the new motor, limit out the small 16g as i pay off my bills, then its a rear sway bar, rims/tires, and a new fatter turbo setup. Then i'll give the car a real paint job and have fun with the fat turbo and pumpgas/methanol.

hows everyone else lookin... alex are ya back yet? paul... u smog your car this week right?
Ron hows McDonalds doin?

 

[tstkl]

Then i'll give the car a real paint job and have fun with...

real dsm'ers ride in purple cars






























with sparkles

 

[Newlogics]

well my springs finally came in on friday, i figured out how slowboy got their name....its been like how many weeks ive been waitin on them...

i had work today and i work tomorrow and monday, so im going to try to pick them up sometime b4 monday if i can, but thats doubtful.
After that, the head gets rebuilt, then it goes to pauls shop where the motor will be assembled blah blah blah, hes goin to check out the trans for me and after that slap everything in the beast and see what happens.
After that, break in the new motor, limit out the small 16g as i pay off my bills, then its a rear sway bar, rims/tires, and a new fatter turbo setup. Then i'll give the car a real paint job and have fun with the fat turbo and pumpgas/methanol.

hows everyone else lookin... alex are ya back yet? paul... u smog your car this week right?
Ron hows McDonalds doin?

I'm freakin' exctatic! I just passed my state ref. inspection. WooHooo!

Bastards almost failed me because they couldn't get EGR to open, that's when I had to step in show them how it's done. Rookies. I put CA emission stuff on my federal car, and CA verion has three ports on EGR, and you have to pinch one to pump the other for it to open. First, they tried to put my car on the FWD dyno, and I had to run in and yell at them. Then, they coudn't find EGR, so I had to point it out. Then I had to tell them exactly how to operate it, and finally they passed me. I honestly didn't expect to pass sniffer, when I logged it last night, my low and high fuel trims were pegged at 81% ( I assume due to walboro 255), but to my relief it passed perfectly.

Thanks Dave for the exhaust (that swivel flange was a PITA to seal though).
May be I should run my car bonse stock at the track to see what I get?
Either way, my real turbo isn't going back on, since its about to fail. I just can't decide whether to rebuild it, or get a whole new thing...

BTW, stock car drives sooooo nice. Idles perfect at 750 rpm and doesn't ever stall.

 

[tstkl]

get an fp3052 or a 3565/3575 with a 2.3L

after riding in edwins untuned car, Im sold. There would be no life if it wasn't for garret and dual ball bearing center sections.

I think the list of mods after I finish the car will look like this:

new 245/40/17r tires to go on my repaired rims
jic's flt a-2's, or tein's ss coilover suspension
the turbo set up mentioned earlier....

I think I might change the turbo though, because I might end up giving in to the stroker side. such a hard decision. I'll probably follow the path of jake M and go 2.0 though. I'll have to ride in daves car,....

 

[pneumo]

Glad to hear you passed, Paul. You should have asked for a job as a state ref since you know so much more than them about cars and emissions stuff. That would be sooo cool.
Me:"Oh darn, I failed smog and have to go to the 'state ref'" :wink: :wink:

 

[tstkl]

anyone got a 17mm or 21mm flare wrench I can borrow?

Im trying to sort out this oil cooler issue (I have a spair oem 1990 oil cooler to swap in, but having trouble getting my old one off....) and have been considering a new oil cooler with stainless steel lines. Its a bit pricy, but it will get something out from in front of the radiator, and allow more flow through the intercooler as there will be less of a restriction behind it. Also it will look cleaner...hehehe.

the oil cooler is basically the last thing I have to do to get the car running besides the whole radiator shitaste. The current radiator will work, but its twisted, and the fins are bent to all hell. Once I get this oil cooler replaced I can throw the intercooler and bumper back on and drive it to pauls to get the lower radiator support beam replaced. I might get it smogged first, since that has to be done before the 22nd, but thats all thats left before I can head out again. I'd also like to get the dents removed, but thats not that important, since there is only two of them. Amazingly, only one part of my sideskirt was broken, so that has to be replaced to, but again, thats only cosmetics.

 

[MyBlack94GST]

I have a free radiator if you want it. Drain hole is a little leaky though, might want to JB weld it or something.