How come no one seems to brag or be running Crane Cams?

[Raph]

8.8 (low compression) plus 2.3 (long stroke) = poor response/lazy nt engine

you want 12.5 compression and 2.0 (the 4g63 is a LONG stroke engine) long stroke engines dont like rpms ..upping the compression aids the throttle response.. now make the 2.0 go 8500 rpms, get nasty cams (272s arent nasty enough) ,engine management ,and a big intake and big T/B and a head that flows.

^^thats the N/T route you want to go^^


edit: ditch the engine management, just get your eprom rewritten(people are doing it themselves now, source codes are all over the net)

 

[Syndicate]

Dang thats right I forgot shep was using them too , ( its fairly easy for them todo a custom grind also since they do their cams in house , They were aquired recently by the company who provides that "coating" so maybe prices will drop a little . )


I forgot who mentioned it but you wont have to worry about a intake manifold if you just get itb's .. Heck you wont have to worry about alot of stuff then . Itbs will fit pretty snug in there.

i dont know how much 2x2's run but my tripple webber setup was 1500

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I'd really hate to see you spend the effort on N/A power man . with a 4cyl that really wasnt designed for na power besides stock . If you want to listen to any advice its what all of these guys are saying . build for n/a is diff than building for turbo.

( p.s. even if you told the honda guys its n/a they wouldnt believe you .. you could pop your hood and show them they wouldnt believe you . in fact if you were riding a pink huffy bicycle and beat them they wouldnt believe it isnt turbo or nawwwzz )

Goodluck!

 

[IceDragon]

Well my friend just left me a message saying he is picking up a totall'ed 1g talon... I should be able to use it's ecu, turbo parts, and fuel pump. Hopefully I'll be turbo within a few months, but don't look forward to it because I can just bet that something is more wrong than it looks on this busted car.

 

[Quasimondo]

I did find some sites that should help you out.

www.haywardperformance.com They make ITB setups for various 4-cyl engines. They don't have an off-the-shelf setup for 4G63's, but they do make custom setups. Pricey though, anywhere from $1800-2500

www.rpw.com.au Racing Performance Works, an Australian company that specializes in parts for various Mitsubishi engines. Check out their headers for 4G63 engines.

 

[IceDragon]

it's cool quasi... I'm just gonna convert to the religion of turbo-ism...

 

[2gAWDTalon]

That's a myth, you can rev the piss out of a stroker if you build it right.

Someone finnally says it! Thank you...

 

[Caithness]

That's a myth, you can rev the piss out of a stroker if you build it right.

What kind of increased wear are you looking at with a 100mm crank and 9k rpm operation, though? How many drag passes, how many street miles with regular trips to 9k before the cylinders are too out-of-round from the increased side load. If that actually is the failure mode... I'm just curious about the life span of these high-rev strokers. If you could get at least 15-20k miles of street driving or two seasons of drag passes out of an engine that would be pretty good if you ask me.

 

[drivemusicnow]

Ummm.. Most people would be amazed at what an engine can live through. I am speaking entirely without factual support here, but I would be utterly amazed if a well built 2.3 revved to 8500 RPM when racing wouldn't last until you detonated and or blew something else up. Yeah, you're going to have increased wear on the piston skirts, and the cylinders will EVENTUALLY oval a little bit (not like that doesn't happen anyway), but in the end, you're not going to need a rebuild until you blow it doing something stupid, or you put a lot of miles on it and end up seeing too much blow-by.

but who knows... you have to figure that revving a stroker to 8.5k is prettys similar to revving a 2.0 to 9K... and people do that fairly regularly. How many miles do they get out of their motors?

 

[IceDragon]

I see people on here all the time that have built stroker engines that never really complain about any sort of rev'ing problem or any real engine wear that is out of normal... So, if you don't read of someone saying it, why just believe it happens? I mean, people only like to talk up when it comes to complain about things... Never really hear someone at a bar over a drink going, yo man, my car runs beautifully, my wife is amazing, and I have a great paying job. Now if you ask someone with a well built stroker if they have any complaints, I bet they say no, but most people don't really brag that their stroker is the best thing they've done to their DSM or anything. So I also hate seeing when people post myth's on message boards, and post it as advice to someone else instead of saying something like... i may be wrong or this might not be true but I heard... I appreciate you guys for setting that myth straight though.

 

[Caithness]

I may be behind the times in reading up on strokers; the last time I did not many people were revving them over 8 grand. I didn't think there were more than a few running them to or over 9000 rpm. If they're holding up under that kind of RPM, great. I'd always read the trade-off for running the strokers to high rpm was reduced service life.