Help me beat this Trans Am!!!!! Wisemen welcome

[ceedawg]

Forget it dude unless u plan on spending some real dough on mods. Otherwise it's a waste of time. Listen to Big Bean

 

[cficare68]

Yeah ditch the 20g ideal. I've got one on my Talon right now, but it is only temporary. Once i rebuild the tranny and upgrade the fuel lines to run E85 its out of there. They take to long to spool and your not going to get near enough air flow on a t25 manifold. Since you are talk 1/8th mile then I would look at stroking it and get with higher compression pistons to give you more torque in the bottom end. Also don't forget you gotta be able to tune it. DSM Link, AEM EMS, DIYAuto Tune, or even an 8 Evo ECU, just something. Putting the money your looking at without having an adequate tuning software is a waste of time and money.

 

[cantgo2fast]

Tell him spray is for wussies, without spray you have a much better chance.

 

[KentStateTsi]

I like the idea of shutting the F body crowd up but it isn't going to be cheap man. I'm one of the biggest lsx haters out there(only because they make awesome power with bolt ons). 20g is out the window. Ditch the link and get a 98-99 ecu and reflash to SD. Stock block with cams will do it but you'll need something along the lines of a 35r or HTA37. Upwards of 1600cc on E85 and dual pumps. Do it on a budget man. Reflash a stock ecu and search the classifieds for used parts or part outs. A Jacks trans is probably the cheapest rebuild out there for the money. Good luck man. I'm pulling for you. Just research and don't buy the most expensive stuff.

 

[volkerding95GSX]

Everyone who commented on this post: A big thank you, This has been very helpful! Most of you were right, I did in fact underestimated what it will take.

But I'm still going for it. I'll be using the STM stock 7 bolt as a model.

ARPs, Drop in Cams, Springs, Retainers, Manifold, TiAL 35R Turbo, DSMLink,
E85, shep tranny, slicks, any and all support mods, tune.

How?

I have a five-speed 92 GS-T I'll sell after I put it back together. Hopefully that will pay for the turbo.

I'm a percussion instructor on the side, so I'll start accepting more weekend students for extra cash and then sell all of my extra hardware I never use on ebay. That'll pay for the tranny. (I have a ton of good stuff I've collected the past 10 years)

I have a Mazda RX-8 that I love, but it costs 600+ a month for payments/fuel/maintenance. I'm going to sell that and drive my already paid for beater MX-3 that gets 40 MPG. Without the car payment, that'll be more I can save for everything else over time.

Hopefully I can run mid 6's in less than 2 years. So there. Is that more realistic for ya? THANKS EVERYONE again! I'm going for it!

 

[pj91gsx]

(the 20g doesn't bolt up to stock fitment does it?)

some 20gs do. Here one i made. A friend of mine bored it out, then pressed a pipe in it, then bored it out again. Its a 14b housing.

 

[avenged5]

Everyone who commented on this post: A big thank you, This has been very helpful! Most of you were right, I did in fact underestimated what it will take.

But I'm still going for it. I'll be using the STM stock 7 bolt as a model.

ARPs, Drop in Cams, Springs, Retainers, Manifold, TiAL 35R Turbo, DSMLink,
E85, shep tranny, slicks, any and all support mods, tune.

How?

I have a five-speed 92 GS-T I'll sell after I put it back together. Hopefully that will pay for the turbo.

I'm a percussion instructor on the side, so I'll start accepting more weekend students for extra cash and then sell all of my extra hardware I never use on ebay. That'll pay for the tranny. (I have a ton of good stuff I've collected the past 10 years)

I have a Mazda RX-8 that I love, but it costs 600+ a month for payments/fuel/maintenance. I'm going to sell that and drive my already paid for beater MX-3 that gets 40 MPG. Without the car payment, that'll be more I can save for everything else over time.

Hopefully I can run mid 6's in less than 2 years. So there. Is that more realistic for ya? THANKS EVERYONE again! I'm going for it!

Dang, you really wanna beat this guy.

 

[96awd]

There's plenty of people in MO that can do it... Since your in MO, i'm not to sure if you're on gatewaydsm, but get on there. I'm 96awd on there as well.

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[gusu]

Save the money on a 35r and just get a Holset HX40 since they are MUCH cheaper and to rebuild them costs practically nothing also. Plus they also spool faster so why even think Garret? If it was reliability you could simply buy several HX40 turbos and rebuild kits for the same price.

 

[Nate Crisman]

Im going to suggest that you consider swapping to automatic before you spend the coin on a Shep manual trans and an expensive clutch. It will likely be less expensive, more reliable, and quicker to the 1/8 with the same power mods.

For an AWD dsm to run in the 6.8 to 6.6 range...we are talking about a car that would typically run in the mid to low 10's in 1/4. Go look at the auto cars vs stick cars in that speed range and your going to find out the automatic cars are significantly faster to the 1/8.

 

[volkerding95GSX]

I think this is going to be my first purchase. And after I buy it, I'm going to set it next to my alarm clock so I see it every morning until I have all of the support mods to run it safely.

Punishment Racing your parts source for the Mitsubishi Evo & Eclipse, Eagle Talon and Laser

 

[saechao04]

Go get yourself a first gen and follow what English Racing did.

YouTube - Going for a ride in the little auto 10.3@132mph on Snow tires ECMLink V3

68 HTA, ECMlink V3 with SD, HKS 272s, 2.3, ETS race FMIC, 1000s, E85, weight reduction, stock tranny and converter.

 

[turboking15]

I agree with gusu. Go with a holset. 60mm hx40 pro. Better spool, durable as hell, cheaper to get and fix leaving you with more money for other parts.

 

[SpawnedX]

Do you even realize what sort of safety requirements that car is going to need for the track at those speeds?

Roll bar and helmet, scatter shield to say the least.

 

[BigBeans]

OP, screw the shep tranny, build an auto DSM. Use a healthy stock trans and a high stall converter.

For this goal, that's the best advice i can give you. It will cut significant $$$$ off the build cost, the car will be faster down low, more consistent, and you won't eat clutches constantly like all of us high power 5-speed guys.

Do you even realize what sort of safety requirements that car is going to need for the track at those speeds?

Roll bar and helmet, scatter shield to say the least.

Depending on what track he goes to in MO, it probably won't need any safety equipment.

 

[dalesmitsu]

Sounds like your off to a good start on your build. Make a build blog so I a can subscribe to it . I might follow it, I'm in a similar situation but with three gm big blocks.
Sorry about the thread jack.

First did nothing wrong it started because my younger brother bought 97 mustang, started talking smack. Also his lesiban friend just bought a camaro looks like same year as the T/A with a vette 6 speed started talking shiit and called me out. My brother also has a 79' grand prix,runs just needs a finished resto. But wants to race me this summer in his white mustang.

I just find it hilarous my brother and this chick, beat their cars to ground. Their cars would break before and on their way to the track. Done rambling about it.


That was wise and smart to sell off one car that was expensive, keep the other as DD.

So your a drummer thats cool.

 

[D's GS-T]

Be prepared to spend tons of time, effort, and money. Keep in mind alot of people make alot of power but if you can't drive the damn car down the track it does you no good. Also high HP cars can be a major pain in the ass, and most people don't finish these types of builds to begin with. Hell even some people who do finish them have major issues, and a car that doesn't run up to potential half the time cause of too many issues. It takes alot more know how than most people on this site could ever imagine to build a low 10 second DSM. Not only will you have to spend cash to build the car, you will have to spend alot of cash just to keep the damn thing on road if you actually plan on racing it. It will take alot of practice to be able to run a fast time, and more practice usually equals more breakage, which equals more money.


Your best bet is to learn as much as you can, hang out with the most knowlegeable DSM guys you know, and ask question. I'm not sure how much you know about DSMs as far as tuning, wrenching, racing, ect but if you aren't at a high level yet, slapping on a big turbo and whatnot usually isn't the best way to go. Obviously you wan't to beat this car, and that would be great, but don't go blowing an assload of money on a car you aren't capable of building, maintaning or driving. Just remember knowledge is power, just know what your getting into before you take the plunge. Plan accordingly and have a realistic goal/budget so you aren't S.O.L 2 years down the road when it's to Late. GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN!

 

[colbyc]

I thought you was wanting to keep this car full streetable bro? I think if he manned up and dropped his nitrous shot you would meet this goal a lot easier while keeping the streetability of the car. Like 96awd said there's plenty dsm's in stl that could put on a good show for him

 

[945liter]

I don't think you understand what it takes to do that, most people give up before being 1/2 way done.

You dont slap it all together and go run a bottom 10sec pass its not that easy. you better make that car into a tuna can and make 550+

 

[volkerding95GSX]

I thought you was wanting to keep this car full streetable bro? I think if he manned up and dropped his nitrous shot you would meet this goal a lot easier while keeping the streetability of the car. Like 96awd said there's plenty dsm's in stl that could put on a good show for him

COLBY!!! what's up man!!! The goal has changed... Which means my car probably wont see the light of day for at least 3 years, but that's okay. I've always had the dream to own a monster dsm, but I always figured I'd do it later on in life when I was way older. So the plan was to just finish all the bolt-ons and that'd be the end of it until way later.

But then I decided not to spend any more money on my car unless it's on the final goal.

Now hurry up and buy my cat back, I've got a car to build!!

 

[rhamlinii]

COLBY!!! what's up man!!! The goal has changed... Which means my car probably wont see the light of day for at least 3 years, but that's okay. I've always had the dream to own a monster dsm, but I always figured I'd do it later on in life when I was way older. So the plan was to just finish all the bolt-ons and that'd be the end of it until way later.

But then I decided not to spend any more money on my car unless it's on the final goal.

Now hurry up and buy my cat back, I've got a car to build!!

How much money are you willing to put into the car?

 

[91stocker]

Surprised no one has said it yet haha.

You know what? This will decimate all... after we put about fifteen grand or more under the hood. If we have to, overnight some parts from Japan.

 

[MY1GDSM]

2JZ No $hit....

It's funny I use to have a neighbor that with a car that looked exactly like that an thought it would rule all... Only problem was it was a Stock V6 good guy just no sense about what Turbos can do...

Seriously though OP good luck with your plans sounds like you actually don't have your head in your a$s like most the people starting "threads like this"

 

[91stocker]

2JZ No $hit....

Hahaha

You notice in the movie that car had the n/a 2JZ and not the 2JZ-GTE . Messed that up like they messed up the eclipse.

 

[my dreamt dsm]

Surprised no one has said it yet haha.

You know what? This will decimate all... after we put about fifteen grand or more under the hood. If we have to, overnight some parts from Japan.

What he said...

Don't get to obsess with the goal though. You'll loose your mind.