going to test drive a dsm

[theycallmedalgo]

i found this dsm thats like 20 minutes away and i want to go test drive it soon

i think its a pretty deecent deal but was just wondering what you guys thought

its a 1991 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST 5 speed brand new motor not even driven yet ported and polished head with over sized stainless steel valves 16g turbo new clutch 2g manifold new kyb agx shocks on front white with black roof walbro 255 fuel pump 18in giavanna rims hyper black needs to be tuned. also an alpine type r sub. theres 132k on the body. the engine was just rebuilt. brakes are good and he has a ton of extra parts he said hell throw in.

in the pictures the car looks pretty clean but i dont know if im allowed to post them or the link so i wont

i think theres a dyno place by me so hopefully all it needs is the tune but i guess ill find out on the test drive.. o yeah the price was dropped from 3k to 2500

i know i ###### shouldnt have posted this i just wanted to hear some feedback from you expierienced dsmers out there

 

[slipstream808]

Wow... that seems like a little cash for a lotta stuff. I mean you never get what you put into it when you sell a car, but that's just weird.

All of this work on his car. Who did it? Did he? What can you tell us about him? The thing I'm getting at, is does this guy know his stuff, and did he take care of the car? Why does it have a new engine? What constitutes a "new engine"? Brand new, or rebuilt? Was it built up?

How did he drive the car before? How was the maintenance? Oil changes, belts, etc... Why does it need tuning?

WHY IS HE SELLING IT, DAMNIT!!! I mean it. Why would he wanna give up something this nice for so cheap?

Did you test drive it? How does it shift?

What do you know about cars and DSM's?

How's the rust? How's the underbody? Did you look under the hood? (probably :thumbs What's the color like on the inside of the valve cover?

So many questions. Answer those and we'll see where we're at!

 

[destruckeclipse]

If it hasn't been broken in properly it will bring you hell and much more cost down the line. Test drive it, if you like it buy it. Get an AFC to control the fuel on it, and maybe some injectors if you plan to up the boost after the engine break in.

I'd bring a mechanic by to look at it if you don't know much about cars.

 

[theycallmedalgo]

Wow... that seems like a little cash for a lotta stuff. I mean you never get what you put into it when you sell a car, but that's just weird.

All of this work on his car. Who did it? Did he? What can you tell us about him? The thing I'm getting at, is does this guy know his stuff, and did he take care of the car? Why does it have a new engine? What constitutes a "new engine"? Brand new, or rebuilt? Was it built up?

How did he drive the car before? How was the maintenance? Oil changes, belts, etc... Why does it need tuning?

WHY IS HE SELLING IT, DAMNIT!!! I mean it. Why would he wanna give up something this nice for so cheap?

Did you test drive it? How does it shift?

What do you know about cars and DSM's?

How's the rust? How's the underbody? Did you look under the hood? (probably :thumbs What's the color like on the inside of the valve cover?

So many questions. Answer those and we'll see where we're at!

This guy has owned like 7 dsms before this one the only thing i dont like is that he races his wife haha they both have dsms but he was telling me that he hit 155 mph in it which worries me some

im going to test drive it i havent gone yet, i might go tomorrow

i dont know a whole lot about dsms but i mean i can tell if the car isnt running like it should be

as far as the safc is concerned i never thought of that, that would be a good way to tune it myself without having to spend money on a dyno.


The engine was rebuilt with mostly oem stuff except for the over sized stainless steel valves, i dont know why it was rebuilt

i have yet to question his motives for selling but i will surely find out

this guy knows his stuff somewhat i believe but probably did race it a deecent amount against his wife but idk ill check it out for kicks


O yea i found a 91 awd with 114 on it 5 spd, just completely rebuilt the engine and suspension but now has to sell it due to fianncial problems..seems like a good guy and i dont think the car was beat on he rarely drives it. its local and looks promising..i just have to take off the ugly body kit on it and ill be set, can i get stock body parts at a junkyard? ill let you guys know when i test drive that one too..

sorry this post was so long thanks for the input guys

 

[MyBeatGSX]

Who said it needs to be tuned, you or him? What does he have to tune it with? Nothing I'm guessing.

What size injectors is he running? This one is lose lose. He has nothing to control them with so they should be stock, but they shouldn't be stock because that's too small for the 16G.

Does he have an AFPR? You need it for a 255.

All this stuff will answer the question of whether he knows what he's doing or not. Ask him lots of questions and make sure his answers make sense.

That "155mph" thing worries me too. It shows he beat on the car, which isn't that surprising but still not a good thing.

And 18" Giavannas? Ew Those are ghetto pimpin rims.

 

[dsmclipse97]

he probably needed to rebuild it after hitting 155mph . id have it checked out by a mechanic a brand new rebuilt engine would probably run more than 2500 by itself and 18s dont come cheap. And find out what he did to the other 6 DSMs he has owned... seems kinda sketchy, hit or miss.

 

[theycallmedalgo]

here ill just post the link so you guys see what it looks like, i dont think the rims look that bad tho..

ill find out about all the other dsms and see about the tuning, also i though 450's were good enough for a 16g? ill keep you guys posted


http://www.dsmsource.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=3914&cat=6

the engine isnt brand new it was just rebuilt to oem standards except for a few things so it wouldnt cost 2500 right?

 

[FORMONTOYA]

IMO...The guy's a "bullshitter". Although the body looks fair, I don't see anything as far as the inside goes. As stated "what about an AFPR for the 255?"...I don't see one, and they're not that easy to hide (strike 1). The statement about hitting 155MPH, I seriously doubt it running factory gearing (strike 2, but as stated...it's been beat on). And "it needs a tune" (with the named equipment...strike 3)....and that's good enough for me.

Obviously the guy doesn't know what he's doing if he can't get the fundamentals correct, and if YOU knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be asking.

It's your money and future headaches, but it's also YOUR CALL.

 

[MyBeatGSX]

He's running without heat sheilds, strike 4.

He's running without an upper timing belt cover, strike 5.

He has no reason to run without an upper timing belt cover (i.e. cam gears), strike 6.

The BOV is vented, strike 7.

If he JUST rebuilt the entire motor, why would he sell it? strike 8


Honesly, those rims would have been strikes 1-10 for me. No one that knows anything would put those disgustingly heavy monstrosities on a DSM.

 

[HustlerTalon]

IMO...The guy's a "bullshitter". Although the body looks fair, I don't see anything as far as the inside goes. As stated "what about an AFPR for the 255?"...I don't see one, and they're not that easy to hide (strike 1). The statement about hitting 155MPH, I seriously doubt it running factory gearing (strike 2, but as stated...it's been beat on). And "it needs a tune" (with the named equipment...strike 3)....and that's good enough for me.

Obviously the guy doesn't know what he's doing if he can't get the fundamentals correct, and if YOU knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be asking.

It's your money and future headaches, but it's also YOUR CALL.

I don't think the seller posted that the car has a AFPR...people are just advising the buyer to get one since the car has a 255lph fuel pump...and about the tuning, I am thinking the guy with the car knows that the car will hit fuel cut with the 16g so he recommends that whoever buys it get it tuned first (buying injectors and afc first of course)

doesn't the speedometer only read up to 145mph??? i doubt that he removed the speed limiter.

 

[playitlouddsm]

He's also missing a bolt on the exhaust manifold.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

What was meant by the "bullshitter" statement is not that he's lying about something on or not on the car, but that he's "hyping" his skills.

If the seller truly new what he was doing he wouldn't be making such fundamental errors in the build of the car in the first place. With so many simple mistakes it leads me to believe that the person who buys this car will be buying a lot of headaches and then we will have another person on this board complaining about DSMs being a POS when really it was from piss-poor maintenance/build practices, which will turn ANY car into a POS.

 

[MyBeatGSX]

With so many simple mistakes it leads me to believe that the person who buys this car will be buying a lot of headaches and then we will have another person on this board complaining about DSMs being a POS when really it was from piss-poor maintenance/build practices, which will turn ANY car into a POS.

 

[theycallmedalgo]

haha you guys are nuts... i just talked to him on the phone though its a stock exhaust with a test pipe and he dropped a new rebuilt engine in there.. ill ask about the fpr iforgot again but i think im going to check it out tomorrow regardless....nothing wrong with taking a look right? ill keep all youve said in mind and keep you guys posted, later

 

[boosted-dsm]

i vote not to get it. but like they say. its your money. your headache.

i bought mine and im STILL workin the kinks out 2 months later..

 

[MyBeatGSX]

i vote not to get it. but like they say. its your money. your headache.

i bought mine and im STILL workin the kinks out 2 months later..

2 months?? I wish. I'm still working out the kinks and hacks well over a year later. I still don't even know what half of them are. It took a long time to get my car into what I considered decent condition, and it was in much better shape than this one to begin with.

 

[boosted-dsm]

well im got mine down to my exhuast n TPS..

my TPS is out of wack and my cat is clogged up.

fix those.. it will fix my boostin probs and my slow acclectration.

 

[theycallmedalgo]

since you guys are much more expierienced than me I will heed your warnings and not get the car. i have another one im looking at but i have to wait six weeks to get it because the guy doesnt have the title in his own name.. ill post the link but there are no pictures..

http://www.dsmsource.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=3791&cat=6

the body is in deecent shape from the pictures he sent me but there is a hideous body kit on it which i will romove and turn back to stock.. other than that what do you guys think?

 

[95tsiwhite]

I also strongly recommend taking a mechanic with you to look at the car or a friend that knows a lot about cars that you trust. I would look for smoke, noise under the hood, and if possible for shaft play in the turbo.

 

[theycallmedalgo]

I also strongly recommend taking a mechanic with you to look at the car or a friend that knows a lot about cars that you trust. I would look for smoke, noise under the hood, and if possible for shaft play in the turbo.

would a mechanic really do that? is a brother who is dsm knowledgeable sufficient?

 

[MyBeatGSX]

155 isn't terribly impressive compression. But at least the motor has new bearings, no balance shafts, etc. Not a bunch of random and disconnected mods like the other one. And its pretty cheap. I'll be waiting to see some engine pics of this one.

 

[injection]

whoa that guy lives in port jervis thats where i live.. where do you live? i wonder whos it is i only know of a couple around here.

also if you have 3 grand i know where there is a 96 gst in port jervis as well i could piont you in the direction

 

[theycallmedalgo]

its mine stay away! haha jk but seriously...ill kill you

im like 30 mins south of port jervis but my brother lives in middletown ny, i have an engine shot of the car he sent me i will try and get it up here....

the guy just emailed me were going to do the title shit tomorrow it looks like, i hope anyways

http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engineer1.jpg

hope that works, its a shitty camera phone pic, i wont bother posting the exterior because the body kit is horrendous haha but the car is in good shape nevertheless.

155 across the board is really good i though?!

 

[MyBeatGSX]

Yea it is, my bad. Its late and I'm losing it. Its not really good, but its fine.

That engine pic is like miniature. Looks really clean and well taken care of though. You be surprised how much engine bay cleanliness says about how the entire car was maintained.

 

[boosted-dsm]

Yea it is, my bad. Its late and I'm losing it. Its not really good, but its fine.

That engine pic is like miniature. Looks really clean and well taken care of though. You be surprised how much engine bay cleanliness says about how the entire car was maintained.

i second that... i bought my car and it has a oil pan leak thats been there for years. so i have heavy thick sludge and oil build up all under my car on EVERYTHING.. and ive gotten under there severl times so far with carb cleaner and parts cleaner with a flat head screw driver and a bunch of towels n rags and just went to town on cleaning it.. ive got maybe half of it clean under there.. but there is still LOTS more to do.. im sry but most ppl would of just left it.. ### you dont ever see it.. unless your under your car.. and with a DSM your always somewhere on this car . so ya i like my stuff clean.