going to dyno on Thursday...

[GotSome-Turbo]

hey i gotta step in here and say my piece, I actually live by carbondale. I'm from Evansville, if you're ever plan on coming over here just drop me a message I'm actually a member of your site gsturbo and I have seen your indexed pics of all your motor work etc, with what I've seen I could believe 350+ whp (just my 2 cents so the rest of you please don't flame me). Anyways if you ever are in the evansville area like i said just bring your dyno sheet and I'll verify for you, plus I wouldn't mind checking you setup out in real life, it looks nice. Oh by the way I work at the west side walmart electronics dept. usually 2-11 pm you'll know i'm there if you see my eclipse parked out front as far away fromthe building as possible(dang shopping cart avoidance tactic). It's white withe ghost flames, altezza's,projector headlights, 18's, and an hp exhaust hangin of the rear hard to miss among all the trucks o btw my name's jason if you do come in, just show me the dyno sheet and I'll back you up on here. not taking sides just wanna see an end to all the flaming

 

[ACKERSON]

you can believe 350 whp at 20 psi on 440cc injectors? theres no way. Seriously how many people have been to the dyno as many times as he claims and cant show one dyno sheet(that hasn't been doctored) or video. I have video and sheets and pics of every single time I have gone, and so do all of my friends. I'm not saying his car doesn't have what he says it does, I just want to see proof just like everybody else. I'm not mad at all I just read some of his posts and they are all the same. He makes claims, never shows any proof, then just disapears for a while, then he comes back makes more claims, starts little fights with people. If your car is what you say it is then that is awesome. I would love to see a video.

 

[turboed420A]

Considering I made 270whp @14psi on a 2OG with 335cc injectors with a stock head last year...

If you don't have a 420a or haven't had one before, I wouldn't talk about what car can do what.....and BTW, stop bitching and go pick another fight with your friends in the other section...This is getting old

 

[2fast420a]

Considering I made 270whp @14psi on a 2OG with 335cc injectors with a stock head last year...

If you don't have a 420a or haven't had one before, I wouldn't talk about what car can do what.....and BTW, stop bitching and go pick another fight with your friends in the other section...This is getting old

Scott, at the very least don't turn this into a 420a vs 4G thing. That happens too often and this is not really the case. This is people (420a and 4G63) just tired of the same old BS on siueclipse part. This is the kind of backlash you can expect when someone tells people that they have been making over 350hp for almost a year and then when they actually do post up a dyno sheet it ends up being over 40hp less than they have been telling everyone. The 337hp numbers sound realistic enough especially with the portfueler on there now. Sure the photochopped dyno sheet doesn't help his cause but at least the numbers he post now are realistic.

You may not agree with all of them but ACKERSON has some valid points.

 

[turboed420A]

I'm not turning this into a battle war between the two engines...People come over here like their experts in this field when they don't understand or just tell us to buy something else or pick fights....Like I said before this is getting old...

I understand that if you don't post numbers that you should be called out on it..just don't do it several times to an old thread that got "owned" anyways... :laugh:

 

[siueclipse]

hey i gotta step in here and say my piece, I actually live by carbondale. I'm from Evansville, if you're ever plan on coming over here just drop me a message I'm actually a member of your site gsturbo and I have seen your indexed pics of all your motor work etc, with what I've seen I could believe 350+ whp (just my 2 cents so the rest of you please don't flame me). Anyways if you ever are in the evansville area like i said just bring your dyno sheet and I'll verify for you, plus I wouldn't mind checking you setup out in real life, it looks nice. Oh by the way I work at the west side walmart electronics dept. usually 2-11 pm you'll know i'm there if you see my eclipse parked out front as far away fromthe building as possible(dang shopping cart avoidance tactic). It's white withe ghost flames, altezza's,projector headlights, 18's, and an hp exhaust hangin of the rear hard to miss among all the trucks o btw my name's jason if you do come in, just show me the dyno sheet and I'll back you up on here. not taking sides just wanna see an end to all the flaming

A buddy of mine Eric is from evansville. He drives a red eclipse, know him?

 

[siueclipse]

well.. that dyno sheet i posted is real. compare it to all my others on my site.

www.gsturbo.com/james

 

[2fast420a]

I'm not turning this into a battle war between the two engines...People come over here like their experts in this field when they don't understand or just tell us to buy something else or pick fights....Like I said before this is getting old...

I understand that if you don't post numbers that you should be called out on it..just don't do it several times to an old thread that got "owned" anyways... :laugh:

Very true.

 

[GotSome-Turbo]

no, a lot of red eclipse's around though, anything special about it? and does he go to USI? a few nice eclipse's there.

 

[ACKERSON]

I'm not claiming to be an expert in anything, there is however mathematical formula for determing the amount of fuel required to make an x amount of horsepower and 349 to the wheels is about 385hp at the crankshaft. Four 440cc injectors are not capable of making 385 horsepower. I said nothing about the 420a so why would that even come up? This is directed soley at one person. The only way people will believe it is if we see a video, which you claim to have so lets see it.

 

[2fast420a]

I'm not claiming to be an expert in anything, there is however mathematical formula for determing the amount of fuel required to make an x amount of horsepower and 349 to the wheels is about 385hp at the crankshaft. Four 440cc injectors are not capable of making 385 horsepower. I said nothing about the 420a so why would that even come up? This is directed soley at one person. The only way people will believe it is if we see a video, which you claim to have so lets see it.

349 to the wheels on a FWD is approximately 420chp. There is approximately 17% driveline loss on the FWD 5 speeds and even more for automatics and AWDs. Seriously man, it's already been established that he lied about both the 349hp and when he claimed to be making 380hp. Trust me if your trying to discredit him, it's already been done by several people both here and on 2GNT.

 

[ACKERSON]

Thanks for the info I didn't know that he had already been discredited. So now my question is why is he still a member of this forum?

 

[Slippi84]

This thread is crazy old and probably not relevant but I figured I came across is another person not of my know how might also. For anyone that reads this thread every 4g63 guy that posted in hear is an idiot and the original poster is just another speculator/bench racer but it happens to the best of us exspecting one thng and getting another. Now again this is a VERY old thread but hey I'm bored at work so i'll break down a couple things.

One to Akron if you haven't learned this since your last post a portfueler is a setup that incorporates 4 ADDITIONAL injectors on top of the stock injectors already in the car. So while your turbo guy thinking makes sense in a FOUR(4) injector setup he has EIGHT(8) injectors.

Second the portfueler is not pretuned anymore than saying hooking up dsmlink putting in your base settings and zero'ing out everything is tuned. If I get my car on a dyno with a safc and make a adjustment at one given rpm and then the dyno breaks before I can do anything esle does that make my car tuned?(retoricle question by the way)

337whp os 337whp the dyno never lies so to the OP if you still rome these threads we understand shit happens but you make yourself look like a bs'er by spitting out a bunch of excuses. If you simply would have said ok still have more work but she's at 337whp right now that would have flown with most.

That's all..

 

[awddynamite]

i made 443whp on a mustang dyno with 500cc injectors, but i guess im full of it too, the way the portfueler fires the injectors helps since they all fire in a batch so when one fires they all fire making it two sprays for each compression stroke.

 

[Slippi84]

i made 443whp on a mustang dyno with 500cc injectors, but i guess im full of it too, the way the portfueler fires the injectors helps since they all fire in a batch so when one fires they all fire making it two sprays for each compression stroke.

Hey man when you gonna put a bigger turbo on there and show em dsm-zero isn't the only guy that can push the envelope. You need a gt3r in your life

 

[e85_4g63]

i made 443whp on a mustang dyno with 500cc injectors, but i guess im full of it too, the way the portfueler fires the injectors helps since they all fire in a batch so when one fires they all fire making it two sprays for each compression stroke.

Are you still using the 230cc primaries? Or are you saying 500cc injector (per cylinder) total? I'm not trying to start anything. I'm looking at a 2gnt w/ the HRC PF on it.

 

[1slow97]

Are you still using the 230cc primaries? Or are you saying 500cc injector (per cylinder) total? I'm not trying to start anything. I'm looking at a 2gnt w/ the HRC PF on it.

yes, He did... You might want to read the dates... Have not seen him around in a long time..