going to dyno on Thursday...

[2fast420a]

Actually siueclipse, I am not an example of a 4G63 asshole. I had a turbo'ed 420a before this car so I've dealth with both worlds. I've been on here long enough to see you lie about dyno numbers, make excuses when the numbers are not what you claim and then see you go back to name calling when your excuses dont make any sense.

First what kind of person tunes an EBC on a dyno. Greddy pretty much makes thier boost controllers idiot proof so for it to take you two hours to set a boost controller boggles the mind. If you can't set it in the first 20 minutes you should just walk away from the car and let the professionals set it. Second if you take the time to actually run 21 psi and make sure the AFRs are safe then yes you actually have tuned the car. You do realize there are tons of people on here who actually run thier cars while never going to a dyno. It's not smart but that is the actual definition of "untuned". When you start adjusting settings to correct AFRs for boost then yes you are in fact tuing the car. "Tuned" does not mean that the car is running to it's full potential. It means that adjustments have been made using a dyno, wideband or whatever. If "tuned" meant "full potential" then most the folks on here are running "untuned". I bet 90% of the people here have room for improvement with thier current tuning setup.

The point is you made your 337hp at 21psi so now if you think the car can make more then do it and don't make excuses. For the money you have spent you should be well over 400hp. Your going to HRC in Feb, that is a month from now. Maybe then you'll come back with a better dyno sheet and less excuses.

 

[siueclipse]

When you start adjusting settings to correct AFRs for boost then yes you are in fact tuing the car.

You just said it right there idiot.

I HAVENT adjusted anything! Quit acting like a ####ing retard.

The car is untuned.

 

[2fast420a]

we are only getting a baseline and making sure the AFR's were correct for around town driving.

You said yourself right there. Just quit making excuses and come back in Feb when you have no excuses.

 

[defrag010]

You said yourself right there. Just quit making excuses and come back in Feb when you have no excuses.

don't mean to jump in here and show my rear, but I don't see the use of a verb having meaning of 'adjusting' or 'changing' in the sentence "we are only getting a baseline and making sure the AFR's were correct for around town driving. ". Getting and Making Sure aren't synonyms with Changing or Adjusting.

seems to me like he hopped on the dyno and they checked a.k.a 'made sure' the afr wasn't totally dangerous. Logic would say that if the afr was at a safe level, than 'making sure' its safe doesn't involve changing any settings or tuning. The addition of the word 'baseline' means to simply run the car as is to establish a starting point.

I've said it in a few of my other posts, but I really think that Reading Comprehension > most of dsmtuners..

 

[turboed420A]

You guys fight way too much.......

 

[defrag010]

You guys fight way too much.......

I was just pointing out how they're misreading each others' posts.

 

[2fast420a]

OK fair enough, I can see where it would be seen that way and that might be so but if your AFRs are within normal perameters to run around town then the car is somewhat tuned. Don't you think it gets old when you hear people talk about how they made x amount of hp or xx.xx timeslip but they could have done better because they were "untuned". It gets old and comes off more like a crutch than a logical answer. Also if your spending two hours on a dyno just to baseline the car then you should never have to pay him. I guess I should have asked and I'll ask now. Do you have the dyno sheet with the AFRs listed as well as the boost curve? That would help support the whole "untuned" excuse.

If HRC has designed a product that requires thier customers to drive to HRC to have it "tuned" correctly then maybe they need to rethink thier product or they should not have released it yet. Siueclipse is not the only guy out there running the portfueler and I'm sure there are others out there who are able to tune them on thier own without having HRC do it for them. My question is why is it that the HRC kits were making over 350-400hp before the portfueler but yet it seems here that is not the case. I'm not putting down the hp numbers because they are decent but if people were making higher hp numbers with the HRC 20G before then why redesign the wheel?

Like he said, on Feb 3rd he is going to HRC to get the car tuned by them. Then he can come back with all hp and zero excuses.

 

[SBstar]

Not to jump on this argument as well. But it seems everytime Siueclipse posts numbers he expects or has he hasn't been able to back them up. So hopefully he'll go to HRC in a month and prove whatever numbers it shows there. There is no reason to not be satisfied with 300+ horsepower from our 420a engines. So why post something higher then you're really making. Post proof with your claims. Anyways I know he said expecting 400 hp. SO I hope he proves it next time he posts.

 

[siueclipse]

Thats correct. Im expecting to see over 400whp. Just by boost alone added to the car. There are other things still to come and play with.

I have posted a 337whp dyno which is legit.. and no i dont have afr / whp comparison on the same sheet because the dyno i go to doesn't have a wideband. I use my own in the car, but believe me when I say its rich.

Sure HRC sends something that doesn't need much tuning, but they leave it rich to ensure people dont blow themselves up. How would you like to be known as the company that does nothing more than blow stupid people's cars up.

 

[SBstar]

By the way Siueclipse I'm not trying to flame you when I say you haven't backed up your numbers. The truth is you haven't yet. But I for one hope you soon do back them up. It would be great to see your car making 400 HP. Happy tuning next time prove us all wrong.

 

[2fast420a]

Thats correct. Im expecting to see over 400whp. Just by boost alone added to the car. There are other things still to come and play with.

I have posted a 337whp dyno which is legit.. and no i dont have afr / whp comparison on the same sheet because the dyno i go to doesn't have a wideband. I use my own in the car, but believe me when I say its rich.

Sure HRC sends something that doesn't need much tuning, but they leave it rich to ensure people dont blow themselves up. How would you like to be known as the company that does nothing more than blow stupid people's cars up.

I see what your saying but at the same time HRC is not going to send something that is pig rich either. They would most likely give you settings that operate within a safe perameter. Pig rich is not safe. BTW are you shooting for 400whp with the 20G or are you going to try with the 25G?

 

[siueclipse]

fact of the matter is.. hrc does send the portfuler configured really rich. you have never used one and probably haven't seen one being used on a dyno. so you really have no idea. stop speculating. im telling you its rich.

ive been thinking of delaying the dyno time with hrc because iw ould like to tune it with the 25g on it rather than the 20g. i am shooting for 400whp with the 20g though. we'll see, i haven't made up my mind yet.

i need to call sport compact and see what my price on the 25g is through them.

- James

 

[2fast420a]

fact of the matter is.. hrc does send the portfuler configured really rich. you have never used one and probably haven't seen one being used on a dyno. so you really have no idea. stop speculating. im telling you its rich.

ive been thinking of delaying the dyno time with hrc because iw ould like to tune it with the 25g on it rather than the 20g. i am shooting for 400whp with the 20g though. we'll see, i haven't made up my mind yet.

i need to call sport compact and see what my price on the 25g is through them.

- James

I'm just going by how much Hahn promotes the system as being very easy to use and tune. From the way you talk that is not the case. Personally I think the portfueler is a waste of money. Also noone has yet to prove that the portfueler is worth it. Even the dyno sheet HRC posts on thier site is hitting a best of 380whp. Not impressive for the cost and the fact that they made those hp numbers and better without the portfueler.

Well 400whp with the 20G or 25G I look forward to seeing it.

 

[siueclipse]

You know.. i think its quite obvious to myself and others looking at this thread that you are backing down and were wrong about a few things. I think the least you could do is apologize for being an ass.

 

[2fast420a]

James,

Apologize for what? Questioning your excuses? Why should I? You lied about your hp for two years all the way up to 380whp then when you finally got your balls busted you sat around making excuses. Your still making excuses. You sat and bragged about how your a "grandfather" of this forum but yet you make stupid ass posts on 2GNT like the one I quoted earlier in this thread. You can't even tune your own car on a system that HRC sells as easy to tune. The only reason you even posted a dyno sheet is because Dino threatened to ban you from 2GNT if you didn't.

Someone said that 337hp is decent hp. Yes it is but not for a car like yours that has over $20,000 dollars invested in it. With the money you have in that car you should have crossed the 400hp mark thousands of dollars ago. 20K in mods and your best dyno sheet is 337hp and your best timeslip was a 8.9 1/8th mile I think if anyone owes an apology it is you for wasting peoples time with your lies and excuses. Noone that posts on here makes as many excuses as you do.

I'll tell you what, you go to HRC and get them to put your car over 400whp on that 20G and then go out and actually run a decent time with it, I will apologize. Until then quit whining about your cars potential and actually get out there and do something with it.

 

[siueclipse]

You know.. I wish this place had an ignore user feature.

Youd be on my list, ass...

Im done with you. You just don't seem to get it.

 

[2fast420a]

You know.. I wish this place had an ignore user feature.

Youd be on my list, ass...

Im done with you. You just don't seem to get it.

This place does have an ignore feature, it's in your user CP.

 

[DsmBoi50]

The point is you made your 337hp at 21psi so now if you think the car can make more then do it and don't make excuses. For the money you have spent you should be well over 400hp. Your going to HRC in Feb, that is a month from now. Maybe then you'll come back with a better dyno sheet and less excuses.

Seems like you got told. Quit lying about your DYNO. 20k in a GS is just stupid especially since you barely break 300hp. You are pathetic.

 

[DsmBoi50]

i haev the original piece of paper somewhere, i only put the lines on it so you could see them. you couldn't see the original lines.

How convient.

 

[98RedGs]

Seems like you got told. Quit lying about your DYNO. 20k in a GS is just stupid especially since you barely break 300hp. You are pathetic.

If you can't say this in a more positive way to where as you don't step on other peoples toes. I suggest you keep it to yourself.

Thanks.

 

[ACKERSON]

Ok I have to say something here. siueclipse I suggest that you don't post on this site again until you have a verifiable dyno video. You make tons of claims and most of what you say doesn't add up. Like running 20 psi with a 20g on 440 cc injectors and making 349whp, it's jut not going to happen. It seems like all of your posts just start flame wars and it's mostly because you sound like you are full of shit. So just stop all the bs and show us a dyno video or dont post. I mean come on that dyno sheet is a joke, even if it is real nobody is going to believe it with the paint on there.

 

[siueclipse]

yeha ok bud, just for you, ill get right on that....

 

[turboed420A]

Ok I have to say something here. siueclipse I suggest that you don't post on this site again until you have a verifiable dyno video. You make tons of claims and most of what you say doesn't add up. Like running 20 psi with a 20g on 440 cc injectors and making 349whp, it's jut not going to happen. It seems like all of your posts just start flame wars and it's mostly because you sound like you are full of shit. So just stop all the bs and show us a dyno video or dont post. I mean come on that dyno sheet is a joke, even if it is real nobody is going to believe it with the paint on there.

are we alittle angry??? settle down....

 

[2fast420a]

Ok I have to say something here. siueclipse I suggest that you don't post on this site again until you have a verifiable dyno video. You make tons of claims and most of what you say doesn't add up. Like running 20 psi with a 20g on 440 cc injectors and making 349whp, it's jut not going to happen. It seems like all of your posts just start flame wars and it's mostly because you sound like you are full of shit. So just stop all the bs and show us a dyno video or dont post. I mean come on that dyno sheet is a joke, even if it is real nobody is going to believe it with the paint on there.

Sorry man, several people have already died from holding thier breath on that request.

 

[Demagosos]

cant we all just get along....if he likes to exagerate a little, well hes not impressing anyone, doesnt help by getting in a fight over it...