gm maf setup

[gsxboostinnj]

Found a vendor that sells used gm maf. I was going to get one bc im currwntly running an gks ssqv bov not eecirculated. I havent been able to find much info aboyt this. Idl what i need to run it. Am i going too need an ecu upgrade. Currently have 95 eclipse gsx.

 

[donniekak]

You need a gm maf, a translator, and the right couplers/pipe to mount the gm sensor in your upper intercooler pipe.

 

[92AWDHX40]

You do not need a ecu upgrade look around here and youll find everything you need couplers a sensor, and such.

 

[foxracing4500]

if you have a junkyard close by go there, I got a 3" gm maf for $10 off a 2000+ chevy malibu and for the hell of it I pulled a 3.5" off an avalanche.

 

[gsxboostinnj]

Well the vendor says it comes with the translator can i post link or is that braking the rules. Also this is off topic but i got some clutch/brake fluid just now. Its dot 3. Can i just pour it in the clutch and brake resivor. Or am i going to have to bleed it and all that shit cus idk how to bleed it and i didnt wanna just put it in withouth knowing what to do.btw there is some already in there but its a little low

 

[trboeclpse98]

Well the vendor says it comes with the translator can i post link or is that braking the rules. Also this is off topic but i got some clutch/brake fluid just now. Its dot 3. Can i just pour it in the clutch and brake resivor. Or am i going to have to bleed it and all that shit cus idk how to bleed it and i didnt wanna just put it in withouth knowing what to do.btw there is some already in there but its a little low

You should be ok with posting a link.

If they are low just fill them to the max mark, you only have to bleed them if you have air in the lines.

 

[Tooltrt87]

Just a bit of extra info before your go thinking you just need a translator, gm maf and couplers.
The translator is plug and play however.. Even with your injectors setup properly with the instructions, you will hopefully be provided with by the vendor. Your air/fuel is subject to change, and can of course lead to engine damage.
Getting a wideband is the obvious next suggestion. Read through the instuctions!!!!! There is no skipping steps. If you dont have instructions after the purchase then surf the web, its out there.
Also look up how to bleed a brake or clutch system anyway. Dsm or no dsm there is no need to not give it a shot and learn some good old fashion back yard mechanic skills. Then again its a dsm.... what choice do ya have? haha
Happy motoring!!

 

[gsxboostinnj]

Just a bit of extra info before your go thinking you just need a translator, gm maf and couplers.
The translator is plug and play however.. Even with your injectors setup properly with the instructions, you will hopefully be provided with by the vendor. Your air/fuel is subject to change, and can of course lead to engine damage.
Getting a wideband is the obvious next suggestion. Read through the instuctions!!!!! There is no skipping steps. If you dont have instructions after the purchase then surf the web, its out there.
Also look up how to bleed a brake or clutch system anyway. Dsm or no dsm there is no need to not give it a shot and learn some good old fashion back yard mechanic skills. Then again its a dsm.... what choice do ya have? haha
Happy motoring!!

What do you mean by injectors setup. I just have stock ones. For now that is. I was gonna go to the salvage yard tomarrow. Would the translator be in with the gm maf. I just want to vent to atmosphere and yeah i was going to get a wide band after i bought this 20g turbo kit from cxracing. I do however have narrowband but i hear all the time its not acurate. And plus its not hooked up to a sensor im guesiing bc there is power but no movement

 

[Tooltrt87]

"cracks knuckles"

Picture this...
You have a gm maf and slap it on. Then you have the translator and slap it on. There are two plugs for the translator. One plugs into the gm maf and the other into the factory maf plug.
The translator does more then just allowing you to vent to atmosphere. It also can adjust for different injectors. Example 450cc 550cc 660cc ect..... Also it can adjust your a/f mixter for idle mid and wot.
A 20g on 450cc injectors is not a good idea. You need larger injectors to mix fuel accordingly for that turbo. Way to much air and not enough fuel causes a lean mixture. Then for lack of a better term BOOM!! Your effed, and your engine dosnt work.
My advice is as follows..get the translator, couplers and the gm sensor.
Get a wideband. Also look into getting a SAFC the safc also adjusts your air flow which changes your a/f mixture. These tools are all a must!!!
Then again.. If you have a plastic ecu its possible you can get your car tuned or "flashed" at a local dyno. If not then just get my recomended items. Also look up the upgrade path on the site. It may enlighten you further.

 

[gsxboostinnj]

"cracks knuckles"

Picture this...
You have a gm maf and slap it on. Then you have the translator and slap it on. There are two plugs for the translator. One plugs into the gm maf and the other into the factory maf plug.
The translator does more then just allowing you to vent to atmosphere. It also can adjust for different injectors. Example 450cc 550cc 660cc ect..... Also it can adjust your a/f mixter for idle mid and wot.
A 20g on 450cc injectors is not a good idea. You need larger injectors to mix fuel accordingly for that turbo. Way to much air and not enough fuel causes a lean mixture. Then for lack of a better term BOOM!! Your effed, and your engine dosnt work.
My advice is as follows..get the translator, couplers and the gm sensor.
Get a wideband. Also look into getting a SAFC the safc also adjusts your air flow which changes your a/f mixture. These tools are all a must!!!
Then again.. If you have a plastic ecu its possible you can get your car tuned or "flashed" at a local dyno. If not then just get my recomended items. Also look up the upgrade path on the site. It may enlighten you further.

Ive been scoping the classifieds for 1000 cc injectors for a decent price. And i said i was getting the 20g kit not slapping it on right away until i have all supporting mods.i have no idea what kind of ecu i have il look tomarrow and try to upload a pic.would thr tanslator be in the same car as the sensor. Probly a dumb question but only one way to learn ha. Would it be easier to just get a different ecu. And tune instead of getting the sensor. And if thats the case whitch i hear of so much different tuning shit and im not even a newbie with that i have 0 %tuning knowledge. Dsmlink ,ecmlink ,eprom ,chips, sd no idea what any of that is.

 

[WES_393]

No, the translator does not come with the MAF. It's a separate device that allows you to use the GM MAF. It's ancient and absolute crap for any real tuning. Not to mention that's a lot of work and money just to vent your BOV to atmosphere.

You also count run anything larger than around 650cc injectors with piggy-back tuning devices (SAFC, MAF Translator, etc). To run 1000cc injectors, you need something like DSMLink. DSMLink is a chip installed in the factory ECU so that you can tune it. You can run a GM MAF without the translator with DSMLink.

Also, the CX Racing 20g is a ticking time bomb. All knock-off turbochargers (like those found on eBay) are just waiting to self destruct and possibly take your engine with them. Real 20g turbos can be found used for fairly cheap. But in all honesty, a 20g is a huge turbo for someone who is new to tuning. Stick to stock or a 14b/16g.

 

[gsxboostinnj]

No, the translator does not come with the MAF. It's a separate device that allows you to use the GM MAF. It's ancient and absolute crap for any real tuning. Not to mention that's a lot of work and money just to vent your BOV to atmosphere.

You also count run anything larger than around 650cc injectors with piggy-back tuning devices (SAFC, MAF Translator, etc). To run 1000cc injectors, you need something like DSMLink. DSMLink is a chip installed in the factory ECU so that you can tune it. You can run a GM MAF without the translator with DSMLink.

Also, the CX Racing 20g is a ticking time bomb. All knock-off turbochargers (like those found on eBay) are just waiting to self destruct and possibly take your engine with them. Real 20g turbos can be found used for fairly cheap. But in all honesty, a 20g is a huge turbo for someone who is new to tuning. Stick to stock or a 14b/16g.

Thanks for clearing some stuff up for me. But ive read so much about how the buget turbo kits are bad. But thats just it im on a budget and at the end of the day its my choice. I appreciate your opinion. Btw i forgot to mention im not going to be the one tuning. My friend is he tuned alot of dsms.. i think il stick with the cxracing kit. whats the difference between ecmlink and dsmlink

 

[Tooltrt87]

I havnt ever used an older dsm link version. I have ecmlink. Its the same group of guys just a different name.
I gotta agree a 14b or 16g will work fine. 20g on a 7bolt can be done but there is no point other than to say. " look its a 20g"
16g will spool faster and with some cams and a good tune you can make 350+hp on 93 octane. A friend and i made 300 on a 14b and 272 crowers on his 2g with very little effort.
You must look at the maintanence and upgrade path. Click the tech tab and Then click upgrade path. Simple and easy read though it.

Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades - DSMtuners

 

[foxracing4500]

I just want to vent to atmosphere and yeah i was going to get a wide band after i bought this 20g turbo kit from cxracing.

venting to atmosphere isnt that great, do you know how many ass clowns speed up beside me because they heard my bov when I had a MAF translator? I think as you progress with your dsm you are going to find the GM Maf useless as most of us have. I had the translator with a 16g and stock injectors, used evoscan for logging

even in stock form STFT and LTFT are going to be off alot from the stock maf

and your going to get more knock.

I had some nice side by side logs that kills anyones hope for the MAFT.

 

[92AWDHX40]

Got mine i was sick of the 1g maf and then 2g maf then gm maf now looking at speed density, and going to call it done.

 

[gsxboostinnj]

Wierd. Before last night i came home from my dads went to bed next morning i put her on stands and bled the slave. Put her down on the ground and started her up let it warm up. And now it wont go into gear. So now she sits in my driveway. The master is leaking a little. But from last night to today she still has all the clutch fluid in the resivor

 

[Tooltrt87]

If you know your master leaks you should replace it. Dont dont caught up in a quiz of questions because it was working. Thats called hope. You want an answer, fix your current problem and try again.

 

[gofer]

Wierd. Before last night i came home from my dads went to bed next morning i put her on stands and bled the slave. Put her down on the ground and started her up let it warm up. And now it wont go into gear. So now she sits in my driveway. The master is leaking a little. But from last night to today she still has all the clutch fluid in the resivor

Then you didn't bleed it properly and/or you need to make adjustments to the clutch pedal to disengage the clutch.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-drivetrain/213503-how-properly-bleed-your-hydraulic-clutch.html

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYJxQyjIhUw]Proper Clutch Adjustment - YouTube[/ame]

I thought this was a thread about a GM MAF translator?

To the OP, do some research before posting random questions you want answered. Everything you've had a question about we've got threads that already have the information you need if you'd just read them.

 

[Cdc1221]

Please for the love of your car do NOT get a maf translator. You WILL regret that later. Im almost certain i windowed my block because of its poor tuning qualities.

 

[gsxboostinnj]

Then you didn't bleed it properly and/or you need to make adjustments to the clutch pedal to disengage the clutch.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-drivetrain/213503-how-properly-bleed-your-hydraulic-clutch.html

Proper Clutch Adjustment - YouTube

I thought this was a thread about a GM MAF translator?

To the OP, do some research before posting random questions you want answered. Everything you've had a question about we've got threads that already have the information you need if you'd just read them.

Ive been trying to search but literally everytime i search (no matter what it may be) the same shit pops up. And im no getting the gm maf. Bc i just found out i have an eprom ecu in my car

 

[brobo]

i have a gm maf setup and man its a nice setup and i love my greddy bov but you have to have the converter box and the sensor and your set , i got it for free so i got lucky but its like 200 for the converter box but i havent had any issues so far

 

[Cdc1221]

i have a gm maf setup and man its a nice setup and i love my greddy bov but you have to have the converter box and the sensor and your set , i got it for free so i got lucky but its like 200 for the converter box but i havent had any issues so far

On stock imjectors its not horrible, but if you ever upgrade them, you quickly realize the weak tuning capabilities of it. Its not worth buying when you can save $300 more and have almost standalone capabilities

 

[gofer]

...a 2g MAS can support up to 50lbs/min of airflow, over 400whp. The only reason you should be upgrading to a GM MAF is if you're almost seeing the limits of your 2g MAS. So, if the SOLE reason you're wanting a GM MAF is so you don't have to recirc your bov, you're creating more problems than you're fixing unless you also get ECMLink along with it.

Just live with that fact that you're not going to sound like Brian Spilner topping your car out at 160mph shifting 8 times going down the freeway, that's the movies and this is real life. Follow the bolt-on modification build path and set realistic goals for your car within your budget and, FYI, I want to hear my bov when I shift isn't a goal.