full 6-bolt engine into 2g questions

[roni-wan]

ok here is my question, since i dond really have the time to look for some parts to do a 1g swap into my 2g, i am able to buy the complete engine, block, head, Intake manifold, coil pack, all pumps and lines i mean the full engine.

so i thing is just easier to drop the complete engine and i need to modify just a couple things like a motor mount and a CAS to have my car running or maybe i am wrong?

just wondering coz while i break or CW my 7 bolt i can put some serious money building the 6 bolt so when it breaks i can just drop the new 6 bolt built engine on my car and get back soon to the track

 

[95undrpsi]

I was in the same boat about 1 year ago. Here's what I did, I just bought a jdm cyclone engine, ditched the the intake manifold and put on a stock usdm 1g one. Modifyed the motor mount, and then wired in the CAS. I found this to be the cheaper than 6bolt bottom and 2g head. I ended with the same compression and a little bit bigger 14b for around 2 G's

 

[Fayt]

You'll need to modify the CAS to hookup to a 2g ECU.
The rear motor mount has to be shaved down a little bit to fit.

Make sure you get a 6 bolt flywheel. Your 7 bolt won't work with the motor.

To save yourself headaches, save up for some type of tuning also (DSMLink/EMS). There is a chance you'll get P0300, multiple cylinder misfire because of the 1g CAS --> 2g ECU. With tuning, you can remove that code manually, and have it compensate.

Overall though, that's all you need.

 

[roni-wan]

i am right after all i think thats what i am gonna do buy the engine and build it so at the time i need to do the swap just need to modify the mount and rewire the CAS by the way where did u buy the 1g engine? i am looking for options naganojapanese.com quoted me a full 1g engine for 1800 bucks i called them but where not able to tell me if it was 6 or 7 bolt 1g engine, i don´t want to get the wrong 1g motor

thanks

 

[wangboy925]

i have a 6 bolt going into my 93 talon. do i also need to modify the CAS and motor mount or is it just on the 2nd gens?

 

[95undrpsi]

I got my engine through my friend brother, who ever he delt with. I looked at the web site and that looks like the right one. You are gonig to need to get dsmlink or ems though because of the random missfire. You can drive it , if you don't want to spend the money it is quite annoying. I you have any questions let me know. Magnus Motorsports has a good write up on a 6 bolt swap.

 

[95undrpsi]

i have a 6 bolt going into my 93 talon. do i also need to modify the CAS and motor mount or is it just on the 2nd gens?

I think that you will have to modify the motor mount but I might be wrong.

 

[roni-wan]

You are gonig to need to get dsmlink or ems though because of the random missfire. You can drive it , if you don't want to spend the money it is quite annoying. I you have any questions let me know. Magnus Motorsports has a good write up on a 6 bolt swap.

i am gonna get the misfire even rewiring the CAS and swaping the plugs?

i got the magnus write up seem very straight forward to do

 

[silver eclipse]

Its the motor mount on the front of the engine, you have to notch it to clear the water pump. And you dont need dsmlink, but it would be nice to have.

On the 93 you shouldnt have to rewire the CAS
-Chad

 

[roni-wan]

so no misfire rewiring CAS and swaping plugs?

 

[roni-wan]

here comes another question don´t know if someone have tried this before, if a get a 6 bolt 1g eclipse (full working car)can i put my 7 bolt from my 2g(after taking this away to do the 6 bolt swap) into the 1g car so y have a 1g 7 bolt for daily driving and the 2g 6 bolt to make my project?

 

[Spoolin98]

You dont need a stand alone or dsmlink for the random misfire cel. Read page 10 of 11.
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/tech/1gina2g.pdf

 

[95undrpsi]

The thing is if you don't get Ems or Dsmlink right away you will have to re-pin your ecu to invert your CAS. That you can find out how to do on Road Race Enginnering Website. It sounds intimidating but it is quite easy.

 

[Spoolin98]

The thing is if you don't get Ems or Dsmlink right away you will have to re-pin your ecu to invert your CAS. That you can find out how to do on Road Race Enginnering Website. It sounds intimidating but it is quite easy.

According to Magnus you only have to do this on 95 and 96 models. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[95undrpsi]

Only have to re-pin the ecu if you don't have Dsmlink or EMS. You do have to swap your plug wires. That what I did before I got Dsmlink and my car ran perfect, except for the random misfire when crusing. Now that I got dsmlink I didn't have to go in and change in Dsmlink to invert CAS.

 

[Spoolin98]

Only have to re-pin the ecu if you don't have Dsmlink or EMS. You do have to swap your plug wires. That what I did before I got Dsmlink and my car ran perfect, except for the random misfire when crusing. Now that I got dsmlink I didn't have to go in and change in Dsmlink to invert CAS.

So what your saying is you have to re-pin on only the 95-96 models, and you have to swap plug wires on all 2g models?

 

[roni-wan]

I think magnus and RRE actually sells a wiring harness so its easier to do or am i wrong?

 

[95undrpsi]

95-96 swap plug wires and 2gs you have to repin the ecu to invert CAS. I have a 95 so I had to both when I didn't have dsmlink.

 

[95undrpsi]

I think magnus and RRE actually sells a wiring harness so its easier to do or am i wrong?

RRE sell a plug and play harness for the CAS thats what I bought. But you would still have to repin the ecu.

 

[roni-wan]

I see, but the ecu repin looks pretty straight forward, shouldn´t be a problem

 

[Spoolin98]

I think magnus and RRE actually sells a wiring harness so its easier to do or am i wrong?

When I read page 8 of 11 on Magnus's 1g in a 2g write-up, is it just me or does it seem like they are saying only the 95-96 models need to repin the ECU?

 

[95undrpsi]

Yes, on 95-96 cars only repin the ecu. Which he has a 95 yes you need to do that. Follow the whole magnus guide and you'll be good. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Spoolin98]

Yes, on 95-96 cars only repin the ecu. Which he has a 95 yes you need to do that. Follow the whole magnus guide and you'll be good. Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I obv. have a 98 and I'm doing a 6 bolt swap and that just threw me a curve ball for a second.

 

[roni-wan]

Where did you get the6-bolt engine spoolin?

 

[Spoolin98]

Where did you get the6-bolt engine spoolin?

I bought the block from a local guy, it was out a VR4. The head was donated to me by a good friend and fellow DSM'er. Why?