Fp2544.....

[Big Bald]

anyone have info on this turbo or even have this turbo?

 

[Clipse]

There is guy around here running one of those and what I've heard is very quick spool and great low-mid range power. Go for the 3052, it isn't much more for alot more turbo.

 

[Big Bald]

It is actually less but requires so much more such as the o2 housing and external gate and so forth. For 1200 i get basically everything i need and it is ball bearing and a bolt on for me.

 

[harryb]

The guy that Clipse was referring to has a 91 talon with the 2544. He received one of the first units from FP. I'm really impressed with the turbo, riding in the car running 18psi on pump gas it spool instantly and pulled very nice. The owner runs open track days, and seems very pleased with the turbo's behavior on the track. I'll give him a call to see if I can find out any more specifics on the turbo. Are they any specific questions that you would like answered? Full Boost Achieved by what RPM? etc, etc..... Some miscellaneous pics of the car can be found in this gallery. http://www.pinamotorsports.com/gallery/album31

-Todd

 

[Clipse]

Originally posted by harryb
The guy that Clipse was referring to has a 91 talon with the 2544. He received one of the first units from FP. I'm really impressed with the turbo, riding in the car running 18psi on pump gas it spool instantly and pulled very nice. The owner runs open track days, and seems very pleased with the turbo's behavior on the track. I'll give him a call to see if I can find out any more specifics on the turbo. Are they any specific questions that you would like answered? Full Boost Achieved by what RPM? etc, etc..... Some miscellaneous pics of the car can be found in this gallery. http://www.pinamotorsports.com/gallery/album31

-Todd

Andre, the owner of Pina Motorsports that harryb is referring to mentioned that the turbo spools around 3200-3300 and pulls really hard. If you are looking to use your car for autocross/ road racing it would be a very good choice. I however have never ridden in the car and have no hands on experience to offer.

 

[Big Bald]

I am just looking for a decent turbo for now that does not require alot of extra work. I really want the Fp3065 but it requires so much more like i said. The questions i have are the basics:

1. What supporting mods would he recommend?
2. What is the horsepower range on this turbo?
3. Does it hold boost till redline and when does it reach full boost?

I am also interested in if he is running an internal or external gate and anything else he may have to say about it. As far as the track goes, I want to crack 12s and possibly 11s. I am not hell bent on either but from what i read on the FP site, this turbo should get me pretty close.

 

[dsmturboawd]

to run a 3065 to where it was intended, a built motor is needed.

 

[Big Bald]

Originally posted by dsmturboawd
to run a 3065 to where it was intended, a built motor is needed.

This is one of the reasons i am looking at this turbo. I am almost pretty sure our stock internals should be able to handle this well. From reading the forced performance web site, it almost sounds like a Ball Bearing 20g...but i could be wrong. I emailed forced performance and hopefully they get back to me.

 

[dsmturboawd]

you didnt just compare it to a 20g. 3065 is bigger than a red.

i would not run a 3065 on a stock 7 bolt and i would have god himself tuning the car if i was running stock 6 bolt.

this is too much turbo for you.

 

[Big Bald]

I am asking about the FP2544 not the FP3065. I was saying i really wanted the FP3052 but it was to much of a hassle with all the required parts. I never said i wanted the FP3065.

I was comapring the FP2544 to the 20g as far as FP site was concerned, I think you are confusing me with someone else.

 

[dsmturboawd]

thought you were still referring to the 3065.

 

[Big Bald]

I just read that...my bad....I meant to say 3052 in that other post. MY Fault.......

 

[NDgsx]

Originally posted by Big Bald
I am just looking for a decent turbo for now that does not require alot of extra work. I really want the Fp3065 but it requires so much more like i said. The questions i have are the basics:

1. What supporting mods would he recommend?
2. What is the horsepower range on this turbo?
3. Does it hold boost till redline and when does it reach full boost?

I am also interested in if he is running an internal or external gate and anything else he may have to say about it. As far as the track goes, I want to crack 12s and possibly 11s. I am not hell bent on either but from what i read on the FP site, this turbo should get me pretty close.

1. 660s, proper fuel control, supra or 255whinebro, FMIC, full 3" exhaust, 2600 or cfdf as a minimum
2. As little as your tuning sucks to the mid 400whp range (theoretically)
3. Depends on the WG configuration. With the internal on Scott's car last summer we had trouble keeping the boost up at 21psi to redline, it was dropping down to 17psi. It was a combination of me screwing up the new profecB settings and the internal WG. I can't remember if it's dropping at all now, I only took a quick ride in the car on Friday.

Full boost (20psi) is in the low 3k area. When above the boost threshold boost response is EXTREMELY fast, but it is still a smooth pull. Not jerky at all, makes the car very easy to drive. At one track day last year Scott let a single turbo supra owner drive it and he was very happy with the boost response.
It's different than every other turbo that I've used, I've never had the quick spool without a torque jerk. It's kind of hard to describe.
I would rank it dead on with a 20G that has a decent clip on a TDO5H wheel and 7cm housing, with better transient response.

 

[Big Bald]

Originally posted by NDgsx
1. 660s, proper fuel control, supra or 255whinebro, FMIC, full 3" exhaust, 2600 or cfdf as a minimum
2. As little as your tuning sucks to the mid 400whp range (theoretically)
3. Depends on the WG configuration. With the internal on Scott's car last summer we had trouble keeping the boost up at 21psi to redline, it was dropping down to 17psi. It was a combination of me screwing up the new profecB settings and the internal WG. I can't remember if it's dropping at all now, I only took a quick ride in the car on Friday.

Full boost (20psi) is in the low 3k area. When above the boost threshold boost response is EXTREMELY fast, but it is still a smooth pull. Not jerky at all, makes the car very easy to drive. At one track day last year Scott let a single turbo supra owner drive it and he was very happy with the boost response.
It's different than every other turbo that I've used, I've never had the quick spool without a torque jerk. It's kind of hard to describe.
I would rank it dead on with a 20G that has a decent clip on a TDO5H wheel and 7cm housing, with better transient response.

Thank you so much.....I think i am going to go with this turbo. It seems like exactly what i am looking for. I have a couple more questions for you:

1. Do you think i can get away with a 190 fuel pump or is it essential to have the 255 or Supra pump?

2. Is it true that you cannot porperly tune the 660s on an SAFC-2? If this is true what would you recommend to tune my fuel until i get DSMLink?

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by Big Bald
Thank you so much.....I think i am going to go with this turbo. It seems like exactly what i am looking for. I have a couple more questions for you:

1. Do you think i can get away with a 190 fuel pump or is it essential to have the 255 or Supra pump?

2. Is it true that you cannot porperly tune the 660s on an SAFC-2? If this is true what would you recommend to tune my fuel until i get DSMLink?

www.dsmchips.com/2g.html

Go there. It's an alternative to DSMLink V2. Since you have a 95, it will cost around $125..

 

[Libila]

Does anyone know how well the keydiver chips work? It seems too good to be true. Im also looking at this turbo instead of my big t-28.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by Libila
Does anyone know how well the keydiver chips work? It seems too good to be true. Im also looking at this turbo instead of my big t-28.

From the people I've heard of, they work extremely well.. I have mine, but not installed yet...

 

[Libila]

Ive heard that you still need to use and AFC, true?

 

[Groomz]

Originally posted by Libila
Ive heard that you still need to use and AFC, true?

Only to tailor fuel specifically to your car and setup. It will set the injector size and compensation, but every car is different and needs some type of tuning. The plus is that the ECU will now be able to "see" the actual air flow while also having fuel cut eliminated. Use the S-AFC to make minor adjustment or for race fuel changes. Its all on his site though, check it out.

www.dsmchips.com

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by Groomz


www.dsmchips.com

Read my second to last post, slick.. hehehe..

 

[Libila]

Keydiver recommends a afc and/or good afpr for those that were wondering the same thing I was. Now back on topic about the turbo...

 

[NDgsx]

Originally posted by Big Bald
Thank you so much.....I think i am going to go with this turbo. It seems like exactly what i am looking for. I have a couple more questions for you:

1. Do you think i can get away with a 190 fuel pump or is it essential to have the 255 or Supra pump?

2. Is it true that you cannot porperly tune the 660s on an SAFC-2? If this is true what would you recommend to tune my fuel until i get DSMLink?

If you want to run a electric fuel pressure gauge to make sure that you're not outflowing the pump you could try it. Those gauges are expensive though, I'd just stick to a larger pump.

You *should* be able to tune it decently well with safc.

I know quite a few people with the keydiver chips, they work great. You still need some sort of fuel control for fine tuning.

 

[CornerHard]

If you're planning on getting DSMLink anyways (especially great deal if you already have the EPROM ECU), why bother with a KeyDiver chip I have DSMLink v2, and it is everything they say it is I might have to track down this local with the FP2544 and see if he'll take me for a sample ride...

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by CornerHard
If you're planning on getting DSMLink anyways (especially great deal if you already have the EPROM ECU), why bother with a KeyDiver chip I have DSMLink v2, and it is everything they say it is I might have to track down this local with the FP2544 and see if he'll take me for a sample ride...

For real, I opted for the keydiver ECU and I am getting annoyed by Phantom knock...

 

[nanokpsi]

Originally posted by RuBiCaNT5X
www.dsmchips.com/2g.html

Go there. It's an alternative to DSMLink V2. Since you have a 95, it will cost around $125..

That is the worst thing I have ever heard! All this will do is basically a global fuel correction for injetcor size. The be a sustitute for the link it would be
chip 125
safc 280
logger 175
plus more.......
That right there is more money than the link, with less performance. if you consider global injector correction a valid sustitution you need to do more research.

As far as the 2544, I know some people that also had first access to this turbo as well. It does spool nicely but even forced performance is not fond of this turbo. I has a high exhasut to intake pressure ratio which hurts power.