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Found a DSM... not sure if I should buy.

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JwUoNoG

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Aug 12, 2004
Perry Hall/Parkville, Maryland
Hello everyone. I'm new here. I've been reading a lot about DSMs lately, and my friend has one. I'd really like one.

I found a 1991 Talon TSi AWD for sale at this shop that somewhat specialized in DSMs (there were about 10 of them there). Really clean, it has 150,000 miles, and is on sale for $2300. I test drove it today, the car won't rev past 4000 RPM. It feels like it's hitting fuel cut. :confused: I asked the owner why, and he said that it had old, low-octane gas, and the car had been sitting for a month. It also has an idle surge problem. He told me if I was going to buy it, he would get everything (minor cosmetic things) fixed and get the car inspected, then sell it for $2500.

Is he serious about getting those problems fixed that easily? If so, then I will buy it. Other than the 2 problems I listed above, the car runs well (the owner did a compression test and got 150 on all 4 cylinders).

Thanks a lot guys.
 
sellers just want their money, do a comp test yourself.. odviosuly something is wrong with it. offer him 1000. hell probally laugh u out of the park but itll be sittin there for a couple months then it wont be too bad of a offer.
 
I would not pay $2300 for that. I bought a 90 AWD with idle surge, busted headlight, hitting fuel cut for only $1200....and that had 150+ compression in all cylinders. Keep looking and only buy something that needs a good bit of work if you know it isn't going to die on you in a few weeks
 
doesnt sound like too bad of a deal to me...

you say its hitting fuel cut?? haha, i doubt it if the car is anywehere near stock...fuel cut makes the loudest *BANG* youll ever hear in ur life and u think u just dropped ur tranny in the street.

it doesnt sound like fuel cut to me, it sounds more like a major boost leak...thats what i think it is and those are always easy to fix.


although....low octane gas can be the problem...especially if its been sitting for a month or two, he could definately be telling the truth about that part...

is the car stock??????????????????

most 1g's have idle surge, so i wouldnt beat urself up over it..compression seems good and its a 6 bolt so its a good motor..i say go for it
 
have you thought this through with some common sense? A SHOP that specializes in DSMS is selling this. YET they can't EVEN FIX these "MINOR" problems with the car... Does that even sound logical?

And not to call BS on this shop but any car that specializes in DSMs know they could put like 1 grand in parts make it 12 seconds and sell it for like 3-4k easy. So why haven't they done so?
 
JwUoNoG said:
Hello everyone. I'm new here. I've been reading a lot about DSMs lately, and my friend has one. I'd really like one.

I found a 1991 Talon TSi AWD for sale at this shop that somewhat specialized in DSMs (there were about 10 of them there). Really clean, it has 150,000 miles, and is on sale for $2300. I test drove it today, the car won't rev past 4000 RPM. It feels like it's hitting fuel cut. :confused: I asked the owner why, and he said that it had old, low-octane gas, and the car had been sitting for a month. It also has an idle surge problem. He told me if I was going to buy it, he would get everything (minor cosmetic things) fixed and get the car inspected, then sell it for $2500.

Is he serious about getting those problems fixed that easily? If so, then I will buy it. Other than the 2 problems I listed above, the car runs well (the owner did a compression test and got 150 on all 4 cylinders).

Thanks a lot guys.

Idle surge is a fairly easy problem to fix once you know what's causing it. I had it and I had some "foreign objects" in my ISC motor port.

If it was low-octane gas, then you'd be getting knock and the car would just lose a lot of power eventually. But I've seen posts around here with people putting lower grade gas into their car without a problem.

Make him come down on the price. Heck, the KBB lists a 1991 as being worth less than 2000.
 
Thanks a lot for your help, guys. About the fuel cut thing... Maybe it's not fuel cut. At about 4000 rpm, the car just made lots of noise, and wouldn't go any higher. I remember the guy saying that the car would just need some 94 and some octane booster, and it would eventually go away. He said he was going to take it to get inspected, so that and the idle surge would have to be fixed in order to pass anyway.

The car is stock.
I'm not sure if this is a high quality DSM shop, or if it even specializes in DSMs, but it seemed like they knew a lot about them. When I went, there was a 2.3L built 6 bolt (with a 60-1) going into a 99 GSX. There was also a Colt with a 4G63, small 16G, and supporting mods.
It's not that they aren't capable of fixing the car, the owner decided to sell it very recently. I originally visited this place to look at a 90 GSX, but I saw the 91 AWD and asked about that. The owner said it ran good, it needed a few little things. He turned it on and let it idle, revved it up a little. Then he said if I wanted to buy it, he could fix it up, and sell it. That's why the stuff isn't fixed yet. It's being fixed right now, then inspected, and sold.


Other things wrong with the car are: an exhaust leak, missing door handle on the passenger side, and speedo isn't connected. Again, all those things will have to be fixed to pass inspection.

I called the guy, and told him I only had $2000 cash. He said "Sorry, I can't sell it for any less than $2500". :thumbdown Hopefully he will call back and accept my offer. He claims that he has lots of other people who would buy it for $2500, yet only I and the shop know about it being on sale.
 
Just give him your number and say when the car is fixed to give you a call so you can take if for a test drive.
 
So....I ended up not buying it. I put a deposit down of $500...took like 6 months to get back after finding that the car had a salvage title and wasn't very easy to clear.

I ended up buying the 92 GSX in Jan of 05, then selling it 6 months later.
 
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