EVO 9 MR edition turbo on 1G...

[fourreGsixty3]

Ok so like the title states, is it possible to do an evo 9 mr turbo on a 1g talon tsi? Just wondering this, because Ive been thinking about getting the evo3 16G but I figure the evo9 mr would be even better if it would work. If it wouldn't fit by just a bolt up then what mods will I have to do to get it to fit, IE exhaust mani, ect...by the way my talon is presently stock but the supporting mods will be on by the end of summer, and I will buy the turbo in september, so I just want to be prepared if I need to get certain parts to fit it.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

If you want your intake to be in your PS pump/resevoir, sure. The turbo is BACKWARDS, just like the post evo-3 engines.

 

[suicidal2af]

It can be done, just not very easily. Exhaust manifold will bolt right on, you will have fan/rad clearance issues, and your alternator will need to be relocated, along with needing a custom downpipe.

 

[DSMSpyder99]

for all the time, money, and customization you are better off getting a TD06 20G that will bolt right on with minor modding.

 

[suicidal2af]

for all the time, money, and customization you are better off getting a TD06 20G that will bolt right on with minor modding.

TD05HR-16g-10cm will make just as much power and spool 800rpm sooner

 

[tstkl]

http://www.dentsport.com/evo8turbo/index.htm

yea....bolt on....

 

[1gcrazy]

http://www.dentsport.com/evo8turbo/index.htm

yea....bolt on....

Link doesn't work.

 

[Thomas91169]

no, its a totally reverse turbo. just think of it as a NO. not worth even thinking about the amount of fab work needed to mount this turbo and get it running, for the little gains it would make over a regular evo16g.

get a evo16g and call it a day. were not telling you that cause we dont want you to try, were telling you that cause we already know.

 

[ITSME4G63]

well, you can do it but your ###### have to get custome feed/drain lines, and a custome log or fabbe dmnaifold since the turbo sits backwards, but if you get that done then more power to ya. Id just go with the evo16g and call it a day.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

TD05HR-16g-10cm will make just as much power and spool 800rpm sooner

That sounds like some sort of super-16G. Lag will be over 4000 rpms and the power made up top versus the 7 cm housing will not be worth the extra lag. Like mentioned before a standard e316G is much cheaper to use in the long run and a lot less headache versus fabbing up a new evo turbo or trying to run a 16G with an extremely large (for the turbo) 10 cm housing.

 

[tstkl]

Link doesn't work.

damn... that was the one site I found where someone put an evo 8 turbo on a dsm

you have to relocate the alternator and then mount the turbo on an exhaust manifold that has the whole twin inlet thing going, and probably a lot of other stuff too

NOT BOLT ON

 

[tstkl]

That sounds like some sort of super-16G. Lag will be over 4000 rpms and the power made up top versus the 7 cm housing will not be worth the extra lag. Like mentioned before a standard e316G is much cheaper to use in the long run and a lot less headache versus fabbing up a new evo turbo or trying to run a 16G with an extremely large (for the turbo) 10 cm housing.

the 10cm turbine housing IS a super turbine housing. it has two inlets and even though it has such a large area, its actually a lot more efficent than the 7cm housing, and flows more too. its called technology, dsms aren't exactly with it anymore since they are now 15 years old.

its called "twin scroll turbine housing" or something like that. I believe the new evos have 10.5cm or maybe even 11cm turbine housings, stock.

 

[fourreGsixty3]

Thanks for all of the posts guys, the light you guys helped shed on this is very helpful so, I think Ill just do witha e316G with the 7cm^2 outlet, the hahn super turbos lag too much and not worth it in my mind. So Evo3 16G by end of summer after all the other mods. Im going to check out dent sport and see that DSM with the evo 8 turbo on it...one of a kind

 

[suicidal2af]

That sounds like some sort of super-16G. Lag will be over 4000 rpms and the power made up top versus the 7 cm housing will not be worth the extra lag. Like mentioned before a standard e316G is much cheaper to use in the long run and a lot less headache versus fabbing up a new evo turbo or trying to run a 16G with an extremely large (for the turbo) 10 cm housing.

TD05HR-16G6-10cm is the stock evo8 turbo. The R signifies twin-scroll housing. They spool just as fast as an e316g, but make a hell of a lot more power.

http://linux.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/graphics/00000001/full/NTEVO8004_full.jpg

That's a 10.5cm version.

As far as gains go vs e316g...There are people making more power on the HR-16G6 with the 10.5cm housing than others are making with Buschur's evo-oriented 20G's with similiar tunes. It's more efficient and flows a hell of a lot of air, with little turbine restriction.

That said, it's too much of a pain in the ass. Search for my old threads on the subject for more info.

 

[tstkl]

its funny how only the people who REALLY wanted to do this idea are replying. no one who just owns an evo and a dsm or something. we all are certified "if I had the money I would do it in a heartbeat" experts

 

[suicidal2af]

its funny how only the people who REALLY wanted to do this idea are replying. no one who just owns an evo and a dsm or something. we all are certified "if I had the money I would do it in a heartbeat" experts

I almost did it. Had the turbo and mani lined up, but once I broke down the cost and time involved in it, let alone logistics in relocating alternator in a 2g, it would have been cheaper to just convert to a T3 and run a GT3271R.

Now, if somebody would make a custom exh mani, we could just turn the turbo around and use it in the same orientation we use ours. Ah, that would be nice :/

 

[ShapeGSX]

TD05HR-16G6-10cm is the stock evo8 turbo. The R signifies twin-scroll housing. They spool just as fast as an e316g, but make a hell of a lot more power.

I don't think they make that much more power than an Evo III 16G. Maybe just a little, due to the larger turbine nozzle. But on average, I don't see many Evos running better a better mph in the 1/4 than I have seen with the Evo III 16G.

 

[dsm-onster]

TD05HR-16G6-10cm is the stock evo8 turbo. The R signifies twin-scroll housing. They spool just as fast as an e316g, but make a hell of a lot more power.

You're correct. . . somewhat.

The R refers to the fact that the rotating assembly rotates in reverse vs. the EVO3 16g Big & Small 16g, 14b, 13g, 18g, 20g, 24v, 25g, etc. See stealth316.com.

But the ALL TD05HR housings are twin scroll. So indirectly the R means that the 05H housing is twin scroll.

 

[dsm-onster]

I don't think they make that much more power than an Evo III 16G. Maybe just a little, due to the larger turbine nozzle. But on average, I don't see many Evos running better a better mph in the 1/4 than I have seen with the Evo III 16G.

I have to agree here. Doesn't the twin scroll evo turbos have the same blade shape and wheel diameters on the compressor and the turbine? I'm sure there will be a gain from going to an 8 cm^2 housing on an evo3 16g. And, perhaps this would be similar, but on a larger scale, to the higher flow of 2 volutes in the turbine housing. BUT, the increases would not be a "hell of alot more power".