E316g, Sidemount w/Methanol Results

[H82lose91]

Dyno'd my POS last saturday. Made two baseline pulls to compare the stock intake vs the Hawver. Trying to head back this week with the Hawver get numbers on it. This was pumpgas 93, methanol, modded Sidemount 23psi.

Hawver vs Stock Intake Dyno Sheet

Hoping to see 400whp with the new intake manifold.

 

[romeen]

The link isn't working for me. But those numbers in your profile are great.

Curious how you have your meth injection setup. Size, number and location of nozzle(s)? What percentage meth/water? Are you injecting pre-intercooler to keep that sidemount from heatsoaking?

 

[H82lose91]

This link should get you to the album
Picasa Web Albums - g - Dyno Sheet

Single M15, using Alkycontrol progressive and pump. Nozzle is mounted a few inches before the TBE. Straight Methanol.

 

[wishihadatalon]

This link should get you to the album
Picasa Web Albums - g - Dyno Sheet

Single M15, using Alkycontrol progressive and pump. Nozzle is mounted a few inches before the TBE. Straight Methanol.

Any idea what your intake temps were like post intercooler? I am seeing a climb of 30+ degrees in just one pull with the crappy stock sidemount but I refuse to go to a front mount on this setup. I was thinking of doing the same exact thing that you are doing.

Congrats on the number BTW.

 

[H82lose91]

First fire up on the car after sitting on the dyno with fans and cooling for 30min was 94.3*
Start of run 99.8* This is WOT@ 2500rpm
End of run @ 7150rpm 105.3* My IAT is post Meth nozzle in the TBE.

 

[wishihadatalon]

First fire up on the car after sitting on the dyno with fans and cooling for 30min was 94.3*
Start of run 99.8* This is WOT@ 2500rpm
End of run @ 7150rpm 105.3* My IAT is post Meth nozzle in the TBE.

Damn, me likey . So what is modded on your intercooler? Or what cooler do you have? I was and still am considering having a custom one made out of a garrett core.

 

[H82lose91]

Stock Sidemount with 2.25 in and out. Thats it. =)

 

[fwdmaster]

Stock Sidemount with 2.25 in and out. Thats it. =)

Warrior sidemount, slap on a supra sidemount and meth it

 

[H82lose91]

Warrior sidemount, slap on a supra sidemount and meth it

Uh its already got meth. ??? If i change intercoolers it will be to an EVO FMIC.

 

[fwdmaster]

Uh its already got meth. ??? If i change intercoolers it will be to an EVO FMIC.

Meaning the supra sidemount

 

[wishihadatalon]

Stock Sidemount with 2.25 in and out. Thats it. =)

Damn I am impressed

 

[H82lose91]

Thanks guys. Looking hit the dyno again this saturday. Have had to adjust the fueling some with the new intake. Seems to have leaned out up top which is a good thing. Should do 400whp hoping for 420 but we will see. I'll post results once i get back. Boost has seemed to drop about 1-2psi as well.

The intake im running is this guy:
Hawver Motorsports Inc.

 

[H82lose91]

Results...
Hit the dyno today. Only change was the intake and adjusting the afr. Nothing else. Sorry for the scan. Run 001 is the stocker, run 004 is the Hawver.

Picasa Web Albums - g - Dyno Sheet

 

[hypnoticpimp]

Thats badass...

 

[Rob10_99]

Where is all the hype about 400hp on a 16g? Who was the other guy that had some 'secret' about 400whp on a 16g.

 

[H82lose91]

Thanks man. As for 400whp i think its doable. It was easily mid 90's in the dyno room today had i played with timing and such and was looking for a specific number we could have hit it. Again we did not mess with the boost. This was just to show the improvement from the intake alone.

 

[dsm-onster]

I can see all your pics in your album there. But there is no dyno sheet. . .

 

[GDNF2ET]

I can see all your pics in your album there. But there is no dyno sheet. . .

http://www.hawvermotorsports.com/images/dyno/hawver_dynosheet.jpg

 

[Rob10_99]

Hey there it is, nice curve damn! Must be a nice street car.

btw, your sheet said it was 7 degrees warmer on the hawver run!
wait, the pulls were only 30 seconds apart? wtf?

 

[Steve93Talon]

What cams?

 

[H82lose91]

Sorry guys, i pulled the scan down since we got a nice sheet put together from SpeedClinic and its hosted up on the Hawver site.

Hey there it is, nice curve damn! Must be a nice street car.

btw, your sheet said it was 7 degrees warmer on the hawver run!
wait, the pulls were only 30 seconds apart? wtf?

They were different days. Roughly two weeks apart. And yes the temps were warmer on the Hawver pulls.

What cams?

GSC S2's straight up. Cams gears in the near future to finish off dialing things in.

Currently working on the EVO FMIC setup and piping. Next week i hope to hit the track. Then maybe re-dyno on the new tune (more aggressive timing) and see what the FMIC nets me. Although im impatient and will probly just toss the FMIC on hit the track. If its impressive at the track i might re-dyno just to know the exact numbers. I will post "post" FMIC meth results. Cant wait to see what happens to the IATS.

 

[fwdeclipse]

I would be interested in the track time you run. I ran a 12.1@116 at 4800ft running 28psi on e85 and meth. I really dont think the meth helps on e85 but just left it on. Those are great numbers on pump.

 

[H82lose91]

I head out of town tonight until monday so next week i plan to hit the track. How much do yo think the meth is helping your setup running E85? Thats something im very curious about.

 

[rhamlinii]

I head out of town tonight until monday so next week i plan to hit the track. How much do yo think the meth is helping your setup running E85? Thats something im very curious about.

any updates?

 

[H82lose91]

Sorry guys been busy with work and the weather down here in Florida hasnt exactly been cooperating the last few weeks. The sidemount is off the car and i now have the EVO FMIC installed. Boost didnt change at all switching between the two. But intake temps have changed a bunch.

With the FMIC cruise temps are maybe 10* above ambient, in trafffic the creep up a little but not much. Been in the mid to high 80's here and sitting in bumper to bumper they crept to 105* at the most. Once cruising again they dropped back to low mid 90's. Temps during a pull on Meth drop below ambient and are generally still below ambient. Looking at a log from earlier this week temps gots as low as 73* and top of 3rd gear at 7k were 82* ambient that day was 86*. This was also the 3rd of back to back pulls so things were as heat soaked as they will probably get.

Where i do my pulls it consists of full pull, stop turn around, do another, and so on. No real cool down time minus the time it takes for me to start and stop the loggers.

Overall im happy with switching to the FMIC. The install came out nice and clean, and while it didnt pick up any boost, ill take the cooler and more consistent airtemps. Also worth noting is after the pulls IATs didnt go up into the 130's after the pulls, they went back to just above ambient.

Heres some pics of the FMIC install. You'll notice i was able to retain the stock fans, 5 couplers total, and all the piping was 2.25". For this size turbo i didnt see a need to go to 2.5".

Picasa Web Albums - g - EVO8 FMIC Ins...