DSM miles

[jpolizo]

Originally posted by 2gBlkGST
... market value baffles me sometimes

The main thing to remember about "market value" is that there are two parties involved: a buyer and a seller. There's always somebody who will pay $5,000 for a car worth $2,000. There's also a guy with a $5,000 car that will sell it for $2,000 to make his alimony payment. How bad does the buyer want to buy and how bad does the seller want to sell?

Personally, I use the Edmunds site (www.edmunds.com) and that's pretty close to a fair price. I don't mind a few hundred bucks here or there but if the price is way out of line; I guess I don't want the car that much.

High mileage is not the problem, the problem is how the car was cared for. Do the compression test and whatever else you can get done (like a leak-down). Have a mechanic look it over or do it yourself. How's the oil? Brakes? What color is the brake fluid? How are the tires?

My sister in-law paid a pretty penny for a used Civic because it was in "mint" condition. It was priced beyond sight of the Edmunds and KBB numbers. Within three months she put an engine in, hen a tranny. then an alternator, then brakes, and then a water pump. Bottom line: never fall in love with a used car.

 

[DSMTurboEclipse]

If the car is nice but has alot of miles, instead of $3000, offer like 2700 or so, and for the record, turbolaserawdrs, noone at our school is gonna pay 3k for your car LoL

 

[TalonRacer18]

Ive been looking at a 92 tsi for 1g taht has only 40k miles on it. the motor is supposedly "blown" though.

 

[eclipsed95]

I have 176K on my 1G, so I lost with the miles thing, but it is original everything motor wise, I bought it virgin a few months ago (lady owned it). It runs great after new plugs and air filter, just needed a little body work, paid $200

 

[A016]

Well, I am 16 and browsing for a car. I'd like to get a 93-94 GSX or a 2g GSX (probably earlier year because I'm not Mr. Money Bags). I'm just wondering about milage and reliability of the older car. I guess it really boils down to how it was maintained by the previous owner but do you see anything as being really extreme and a mark to be scared away from? I'd also like any other tips or things I should look for when I finally purchase the car.

 

[MrPikolo]

1gs can be reliable. I am guessing you don't like the pop ups, which is why you want a 92-94(92 is when they started the second style 1gs). I'd recomend finding a 92 awd dsm made before may. That way you have a 6 bolt engine and a 4 bolt rear end.

I'd also recomend you do a lot of research about cars in general. Know your stuff and such.

 

[Morphius]

Ultimately, it comes down to maintenance and overall condition. Drive the car. You can tell (to some extent) how well it's been taken carr of by how it drives.

Like everyone on here, it's be nice to find a low mileage car, but they are getting up there in age. You'll most likely find something in the 100K range. Now, if you think that is too high, maybe this will give you some reassurance. The pic I posted below is of a 90 GSX I have that has 312K miles on it. I was towing another 91 GSX (110K) home to leave with my brother. I drove 1400 miles. No problems. Now, that may be an extreme, but if maintained, you can see that they are reliable. My daily driver I drive to work is a 90 GSX with 189K. I drive it into Detroit everyday. 72 miles round trip. Both cars still drive tight.

Maybe you’ll be as lucky as my coworker was. He bought a 91GSX off a Chrysler engineer that was the original owner. He had all the service records which had done at the dealership. It had been babied all it's life. Garaged and rarely driven in the winter. Bone stock. It had 100K on it, but was absolutely immaculate. It honestly looked like a new car. Not in a million years would you think the car had 100K. The engine bay was spotless. No oil leaks.

So as you can see, maintenance is important. Anyhow, make sure you do your research as MrPikolo stated. Take your time. Don't get in a hurry to purchase it, just because it is a "good deal" Drive it. Take it to a certified mechanic and have them check the vehicle over. Run a carfax. Etc.....

Best of luck. Let us know what gem you do find.


-DaimlerChrysler Engineer

 

[chris26969]

ive never seen a car tow a car. that must be some interesting shit.

 

[A016]

Originally posted by MrPikolo
1gs can be reliable. I am guessing you don't like the pop ups, which is why you want a 92-94(92 is when they started the second style 1gs). I'd recomend finding a 92 awd dsm made before may. That way you have a 6 bolt engine and a 4 bolt rear end.

Ya, I'd rather not have the popups but its not a real big deal.
Could you explain the 6 bolt engine/4 bolt rear end you mentioned?

 

[eclipsefwd]

1000 already answered questions

This should answer all you questions and then some. Good luck. And seriously do a lot of research and know what to look for in a dsm. And be patient. I made the mistake of buying the first dsm I found. It was fwd and had a ton of problems. I have since bought a very nice awd Talon. But I wasted a lot of money in the process.

 

[dreamdemon]

Yeah, just be patient.. and make sure you know what your looking for .. oh yeah BTW.. at carfax.com its costs like 20$ to check the history on 1 car.. seems kinda expensive just to see if you want to buy a car..:thumbdown

 

[A016]

Thanks for the help guys. Another question..
What's the insurance for a 1g compared to a 2g? I know I'll prolly get rocked either way since I'm 16, but I'm guessing a 1g's insurance will run lower?

 

[AWD Eagle]

I have a 92' TSI and my insurance is $86 a month, I'm also 16.

 

[wolfman099]

my insurance for my 2g is 160 a month and i am 22!! i had 2 tickets when i was 18 but its been 3 years so they are gone.... when i was first looking for 2G's my insurance would have been over 300 a month.(this was about 2 years ago). it was outrageous. the day i turned 21 i bought my GS-T and the insurance was literally like half what it was the day before!! it sucks being young. it also sucks being old!!(atleast i can get in the bars )

 

[A016]

Wow, I could definately deal with $86 a month. Any other 1g owners care to post how much they pay? The younger the better.

 

[MrPikolo]

Originally posted by A016
Wow, I could definately deal with $86 a month. Any other 1g owners care to post how much they pay? The younger the better.

Hijacking thread=bad. Make a new thread. And this topic has been gone over before I belive.

 

[Morphius]

Originally posted by MrPikolo
Hijacking thread=bad. Make a new thread.

The kid started the thread. As he felt he got an answer to his initial question, he posed another question in a later post. (ie. what would insurance cost)

Given it's his thread, I think he can change the direction if he wants.

 

[bigjangin]

just make sure you have enough money and time for repairs... there WILL be repairs.

 

[A016]

Why make threads for every question I have? (I do have a lot of them). Easier to reference in the future if I want to look back at it. Tracking 1 thread is easier than 10.

And I think you hijacked my thread by saying I was hijacking the thread.

Back to the point...

 

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by chris26969
ive never seen a car tow a car. that must be some interesting shit.

With my stock 91 CRX Si I towed a B16 CRX with a broken timing belt, a 97 B18 Civic with a bad distributor, and my current baby(Eclipse) with a bad timing belt.

Not bad for 108 HP and 98 LBS of torque.

 

[MrPikolo]

Originally posted by A016
Why make threads for every question I have? (I do have a lot of them). Easier to reference in the future if I want to look back at it. Tracking 1 thread is easier than 10.

And I think you hijacked my thread by saying I was hijacking the thread.

Back to the point...

Indeed, i should have not used the word hi-jacked. Sorry my bad

But threads should stay on topic. I'm not a mod, but I belive that is in the rules.

 

[chris26969]

Originally posted by Unregistered
With my stock 91 CRX Si I towed a B16 CRX with a broken timing belt, a 97 B18 Civic with a bad distributor, and my current baby(Eclipse) with a bad timing belt.

Not bad for 108 HP and 98 LBS of torque.

, wow. Thats pretty good.

 

[Andy5]

Watch your tickets. I own a 1990 Laser RS-T with 130K and i love it. But i'm 19 years old with 4 speeding tickets under my belt. I pay $145 a month for just liablity (SP*), Don't worry about pop-ups man those are like ultimate sleeper But Personally I love my pop-up I owned a S13 with them and got used it.. But like MrPikolo said, if u go with the 92-94 try and find a 92 builtbefore may. If you can go AWD some people on here love there FWD but, if you ask them hows the holeshot doing today. Some might not want to answer cause tractions a bi..h . if this dosen't make sense, its cause i'm tired hehe and to lazy to spell check review prof-read.

 

[Sotarts]

Originally posted by chris26969
ive never seen a car tow a car. that must be some interesting shit.

Do you live on Mars or something?

 

[98RedGs]

Originally posted by aovsi
Do you live on Mars or something?

!
I can see it now hes gonna get pulled over because the "blue car is following to closly" a cops gonna be like... Dam racers! then realize that its towing it... :laugh: