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Ill-EagleTSi

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Oct 17, 2008
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These are NGK BPR7ES plugs that are about 2 months old. Does it look like Im running rich or lean? The tips are like a tan color but the threads are BLACK. Sorry for the blurry pics.
 

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Leave the o2 sensor in the o2 housing alone...Please don't touch it..

Your car needs that front o2 sensor to tell the ecu to either add fuel or take it out...Removing it would be like having your mas unplugged...Car just wont run correctly..

I would personally either:
1. Put it in the downpipe...Just need to weld a bung into it...
2. Remove rear o2 sensor...Leaving it plugged in just tie it up out of the way...and install the WBo2 into that hole...(The rear o2 sensor is only there to make sure your cat converter is working properly...It does NOT have anything to deal with your fuel control...Worst case you might get a CEL (Check Engine Light)You may want to weld a bung into the catback portion to have both sensors side by side...)
3. Same as 2 BUT remove the o2 sensor by unplugging it and use ECMLink to turn off that CEL thus you wont need to wend an extra bung in)

Either way make sure you use antiseize on all threads....

Okay thats what i thought...I dont want to remove my first o2 sensor, that sounds crazy.

I have NO problem welding in a Bung that the easy part haha. The part Im confused about is all you guys saying I can put it close to the turbo. It says In my directions for the wideband NOT to have it too close to the turbo cause of the heat?!?! So do you guys run its CLOSE to the turbo or should i put it 36" from the turbo?

The reason I ask is because I have a 3" cutout in my exhaust WAY up by the o2 housing. So if i install my wideband sensor 36" from the turbo it will be AFTER my cutout. Well obviously that wont work cause the exhaust is all gonna rush out the cutout and not go by the sensor.

So do you think the wideband 02 sensor would be ok like 10" from the turbo outlet?
 
I dont have my Wideband yet and I was scared Im running it lean.
So instead you're running it rich, flooding the crankcase with unburnt fuel. Each example is as bad as the other.

A normal used plug should not have the heavy carbon buildup around the base.

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Seafoam probably isn't going to fix the problem....it's definitely tuning-related. Drop the money and buy a wideband before you end up rebuilding the engine again because the gasoline in your oil washed the bearings.
 

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So instead you're running it rich, flooding the crankcase with unburnt fuel. Each example is as bad as the other.

A normal used plug should not have the heavy carbon buildup around the base.

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Seafoam probably isn't going to fix the problem....it's definitely tuning-related. Drop the money and buy a wideband before you end up rebuilding the engine again because the gasoline in your oil washed the bearings.

Thanks for the info. I only have 900 miles on the engine so far. I Have My wideband Now! I need to install it this weekend. I have changed the oil twice already hahaha so I hope the bearings are okay.

Im just not sure where to install the wideband sensor. The instructions say to be 36" from the turbo...but all these guys are saying I can go closer? what should I do? I have No problem welding it in but I want to know the OPTIMAL spot that DSMers use for the wideband sensor location.
 

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You are NOT supposed to put a wideband sensor DIRECTLY behind the turbo. it's supposed to be 24-36 inches down the pipe. You're definitely supposed to weld in a new bung. If you dont believe me, call AEM's tech support or check their install video on youtube. The dumbass that installed the wideband in my 1g, when I had it, WELDED the o2 sensor to the pipe and it was too close to the turbo to give an accurate reading.

When you get your wideband put it right after the turbo and have about 3' or more pipe on it. That will give you an accurate reading.
Is your current narrowband sitting behind the oil pan near the firewall? or is it off the 02 housing?
 
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