Curiosity....2JZ?

[martindoom]

Since I'm a noob at DSM(I have not owned one yet...soon to come) I was wondering about the 2JZ-GTE(or maybe just the GE). Is it too big for a Eclipse engine bay? Just wondering...

 

[gvr4550]

anything can be done with enough time, money, and skills
id rather just have a sc300 it already has a 2jzge in it

 

[martindoom]

yeah I knew that already ...but I was thinking if it was kinda possible with little grinding/cutting/welding pieces off the mounts, etc...

Also has anybody done this before?(probly doubt it though..)

 

[yepes281]

Not that ive seen, but it would be kinda pointless taking the 4g63 out and swapping in a 2jz. The cost would be ridiculous and all the money spent on doing the swap could be spent on parts.
The 4g63 is a proven platform.

 

[martindoom]

yes, the 4g63 has proven most of my friends wrong....but can it does 900whp with out upgrading internals? That was my point why I was asking. The 2JZ-GTE can handle MUCH more compression than other engines.

 

[yepes281]

No it cannot, but if you have money to build a 9 second 2jzgte, then you have money to build the internals of a 4g63

By the time the swap is done you could have fully built dsm with a huge ass turbo.

It would be cool yes, but its just not very practical or cost efficient. If you had the money to do it for shits and giggles then badass, it would be an interesting build, but the average person isnt going to do the swap for performance gains.

 

[needsy]

Check out this thread for a preview of how the remainder of this thread will likely look: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cylinder-head-short-block/263750-4g63-rb26-2jz.html.

Long story short; you will need a ton of money and/or excellent fabrication skills - anything can be swapped with enough time and money. Since you are asking, I'm going to guess you do not have the skills, therefore be prepared to pay out big time to make this happen. If you really want to do it, then just do it. You are not likely to receive any support from the members here.

 

[yepes281]

If he had the money i woulda deffinatley support the build
but its just not gunna happen.

 

[needsy]

Here is another thread about this: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hangout/351273-2jz-gte-rwd-2g-gsx.html. A friendly reminder, the search box is your friend.

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

Yeah none of these builds never happen anyways.. Someone was just gonna do a LS1 into a DSM, wasn't done. So yeah, pointless thread IMO. And the 4G is a proven enough motor, you don't need anything more than a good built and tuned 4G. Its funny to me that these guys with Supras are running huge turbos and auto trannies and going into 10's with like 900whp and then a 68hta powered auto 1g hits 10's consistently like nothing with a turbo 3 times smaller . Go figure..

 

[martindoom]

Did any of you saw the "curiosity" part of my thread? I was asking away for KNOWLEDGE matters. I wasn't AEONS close to doing this build AT ALL! I was being curious if it has been done and how much it would be of a pain in the ....you know what I mean!

Read before posting! ...Oh! And another thing, didn't I mention that I NEVER owned an DSM before? So like I said, READ BEFORE POSTING STUFFS LIKE: "...If you asked you do not have the skills or money..." CAUSE I DON'T, if I did don't you think I would be posting a build on it or just posting in any other sections?

Now stop stating the obvious! ROTF

Here is another thread about this: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hangout/351273-2jz-gte-rwd-2g-gsx.html. A friendly reminder, the search box is your friend.

I already did and it took me nowhere near the thread you posted.

...Its funny to me that these guys with Supras are running huge turbos and auto trannies and going into 10's with like 900whp..

Seriously? 900whp with 10's? I need a video on this! 0.o

 

[westcoast]

The whole premise is just silly. Thanks for the laugh this morning.

 

[99gst_racer]

The ones that serious enough to do it are usually the ones that don't ask about it first. Afterall, once you get beyond the point of dreaming about it, fitment questions are easily answered with a tape measure.

Martin, most of us here are very partial and extremely biased toward our engines. Afterall, it's the best part of our cars. So, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who wants to ditch our powerplant for a heavier, more expensive, and worse-fitting engine.

 

[martindoom]

As I said though: I was asking away for knowledge matters, and not for "learning" how to do the swap. If I ever wanted to do this I'd just shut my trap and do it myself, then post a build on it. they say you only learn by your errors anyways..

 

[TSI from Hell]

Man, sorry, but if you want a 2JZ, just buy a Toyota, it'd be way more worth it. Besides that, c'mon man, there's not many people representing the 4G63T in N.B. anyways. BTW I'm from Bathurst, if you ever need a hand, let me know!

...And I understand we all didn't answer your question; besides maybe the first reply. as GVR4550 had said, anything is possible with enough money. So at that point, like 99GST_racer said; fitment questions will be resolved with a tape measure. Good luck!

 

[martindoom]

Man, sorry, but if you want a 2JZ, just buy a Toyota, it'd be way more worth it. Besides that, c'mon man, there's not many people representing the 4G63T in N.B. anyways. BTW I'm from Bathurst, if you ever need a hand, let me know!

Thanks for the offer man, I'll consider the offer whenever I'll work on the 1G I've spotted near Tabu.

Thing is....there no 2G 4G63T's near here.....also the Honduhs overflowing problem is causing them to call US 4G63's "ricers"....Have hardly seen ANY 4G63's and all they saw was 420a's probly.

 

[TSI from Hell]

Thanks for the offer man, I'll consider the offer whenever I'll work on the 1G I've spotted near Tabu.

Thing is....there no 2G 4G63T's near here.....also the Honduhs overflowing problem is causing them to call US 4G63's "ricers"....Have hardly seen ANY 4G63's and all they saw was 420a's probly.

I agree, I find it ridiculously funny whenever I tell people what I drive, some think Talon's came with a V6 (and they're persistent ), some even say Twin-Turbo, and then the Honda guy's don't even believe me when I tell them Talon's came stock with Turbo & AWD. But I really don't see anyone doing real nice jobs with their cars around here anyways, they either have Hundays Accent with a fart can or a half assed civic. But anyways, they can drive they're civics and call you ricer all they want, build the 4G63T and see who gets the last laugh. Don't need a swap for that!

 

[constant_proj21]

I gotta ask, whats the main reason you want to do this? I have never understood why anyone would swap anything other than a 4g motor into a dsm. They're not that light, not that spacious, and have an engine in it that makes power just fine. Buy a 240sx (or a silvia since you're in canada!), then swap a 2jz in that. Or go for some real easy power, and swap and ls1/t56 combo into one, and have yourself a fun ass ride. A cam and some port work would put it at around 400whp...in a light-er rwd platform.

 

[FLASH1970]

I'm sure the 2jz engine could fit in a DSM engine bay if the firewall was cut and redone, frame rails possibly, engine mounts, crossmembers, trans mount, tunnel... I saw a craigslist ad that had a 1g with a carb'd 4.3 chevy V6 in it and the guy said it could be swapped for a V8 because the engine mounts are the same and it looked like there was enough room. So I'm sure it can be done.