Crank No Start After 3 Years of Sitting.

[Boostin GST]

ok guys. here are the details on the vehicle

98 GST
DSMlink w 95 ecu

Current Mod list is on my profile.

this vehicle has been sitting for the past three years due to upgrading to a evo 9. i let it sit at my mothers house and i would usually go over every couple months and drive it around the block. but last time it ran was about a year ago. it was sitting due to a bad transmission. a few months ago i told myself enough was enough and that my baby was gonna live again. i wanted to start it before i tore it down and upgraded a few parts. turned out the starter wouldnt want to crank. so i said #### it, ill rebuild it while i rebuild my transmission.

i rebuilt my trans at work on slow days and finally got it all back together along with new starter brushes. i went ahead and installed a new fidanza flywheel and reused my act clutch kit with a new oem tob. installed the trans. and a few other performance parts like wideband gauge, o2 housing, suspension, tires etc. i got the whole vehicle back together and now its time to start the sucker.

the starter engages. the vehicle cranks and cranks but does not start. i made sure the coil pack and and crank sensor connectors are going to correct spots. i checked all the plugs for spark and passed inspection. i know im getting fuel because there is fuel pressure and there is fuel in the cylinders. i currently have my wires hooked up for a 95 ecu and non 95/95 cam sensor.

i checked ecu for codes. none stored. opened ecu and no damage signs. stock boost gauge goes up half way and cel goes away after a few seconds.

i checked the cam sensor and crank sensor off a post i read on this forum but i am having trouble finding again. i want to verify i tested these sensors correctly and i also wanted to just drain the old gas in the tank and also change out the battery due to it losing its cranking amps even after a recharge.

can someone please provide good instructions as to how and check the cam and crank sensors?

can someone also give advice or opinions as to what to check?

i also want to check my timing next time i go around but i would like to have more inspections before i go and tear into the timing cover.

 

[400hp93talon]

Have you tried cleaning out the MAF sensor yet..... It's worth a shot.

 

[Boostin GST]

the maf is clean. i took my intake apart and cleaned pipe, couplers, maf and also installed new filter. was part of my maintenance for getting it back up and running.

 

[saechao04]

I think you answered your own question, battery not holding cranking amps and bad gas. Anyway, I think the link you are looking for is on post 6....

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/269002-car-wont-start-no-fuel-prime-no-spark.html

 

[400hp93talon]

I thought I read in there that you drained the old fuel and put new in...... Bad fuel is probably key!

 

[Boostin GST]

yes that is the post. thanks saechao04. i wast getting voltage at pin 2 of cam and crank sensors. i was testing it a few nights ago. it was late and said next time i come around i would swap out battery and gas. im gonna be heading that way in an hour or two with those items. i just wanted to have a few more checks just in case it still didnt start. damn i miss my eclipse. only driving i have done in that car lately is in my dreams with perfect gear shifts. hah.

ok so any more suggestions? sure would be nice to get this sucker running again.

 

[Chaosweaver]

If the battery is good, check your fuses.

 

[97gstturbo]

90% sure its your crank angle sensor

 

[Boostin GST]

well i drained the old gas and installed a new battery. still not starting. just cranks. doesnt sputter trying to get going or anything. just constant crank. the way i checked the cam and crank sensor would be by first checking connector. i was getting battery voltage to both sensor connectors pin 3. i was getting about 3 ohms of resistance on pin 1. and 5 volts to pin 2 with sensors disconnected. i reinstalled both connectors and read between 2-5 volts when cranking on both sensors pin 2.

checking the timing is still on my to do list but im skeptical its that since i havent touched it. im just out of ideas after that.

 

[saechao04]

Do you have a 1g cam angle sensor? When you installed were you at TDC? I had a no start issue that turned out to be my cam angle sensor...because I didn't set my motor to TDC before I installed it.

 

[Boostin GST]

Do you have a 1g cam angle sensor? When you installed were you at TDC? I had a no start issue that turned out to be my cam angle sensor...because I didn't set my motor to TDC before I installed it.

I have a 2g cas (located on passenger side of head). I haven't touched the cas for years so I'm sure its setup correctly. Happen to know symptoms of a bad cas? I tested it and it checked out but if I don't see any progress I might just start with the crank sensor and go from there.

I hate throwing parts at a car but I'm gonna be removing the timing cover and I don't want to do it twice.

 

[canonize-ryda]

Do a compression test. That will tell you right away if your wasting your time or not. I just went threw the same stuff and i changed gas, plugs, wires filters, all just to find out my car had a whopping zero compression on all fours.

 

[Boostin GST]

If the battery is good, check your fuses.

The vehicle cranks, there is fuel pressure, injectors are firing and there is spark. Is there a fuse that would cause a no start I should be checking?

90% sure its your crank angle sensor

Can you please be more specific? How did you determine your crank sensor was bad when you experienced this situation?

Do a compression test. That will tell you right away if your wasting your time or not. I just went threw the same stuff and i changed gas, plugs, wires filters, all just to find out my car had a whopping zero compression on all fours.

I will take a compression tester along with me tomorrow. Its been a few years so some compression numbers is overdue.

I will be heading that way tomorrow and be inspecting timing components and do maintenance if needed. Please share any information you guys may have as to what else I should be checking for this no start issue. I will update as soon as I have more information to supply you guys.

 

[Chaosweaver]

The vehicle cranks, there is fuel pressure, injectors are firing and there is spark. Is there a fuse that would cause a no start I should be checking?

The Motor fuse, its a 20A fuse. If you're getting fuel and spark it might not be it, but better to spend the $4 to make sure than just over look it. I would also check the transistor if you haven't yet.