Cant install my ETS fmic with jmf intake

[jpmxrider489]

So I just went to install my ETS intercooler and Im having a problem with the upper pipe. I have a ets elbow, 2g elbow and a custom elbow thats in the pics. If I turn the pipe around It will work but only if I rig it. I dont want to do it that way. I would like to do it the way they intended. I have the jmf intake so it sits lower. From what ive read, theres not much on it. What do you guys do in this situation. I got a few pic. The bov has to be before my sd bung. Theres not much room to play with. I cant weld or bend pipes. Any tips or tricks? If I get the upper pipe connected, the bottom of it hits the intercooler so I cant use the U pipe.

 

[synthetek]

When I got might jmf manifold I had to make a custom elbow. I got flange from RRE and a 90 bend pipe then put the pipe in the flange and lined everything up marked it and took it to a muffler shop and had them weld it for me.

 

[jpmxrider489]

Just curious but how much did they charge. It's not the elbow I'm worried about its the bottom. What you guys think?

 

[V12 Killa]

From the looks of the pics, the custom elbow doesn't position the piping right for the u shape. Try switching tb elbows, twisting the piping & etc. Just start from the end tank and work yourself up to the tb elbow.

 

[funcar]

Looks like you could possibly cut 3-4" off your elbow. That would allow the long upper pipe to be moved back enough to get the elbow onto the intercooler. The only down fall is if you have to try and form a new bead on the end of the throtle body elbow after you cut it back. Good luck with whatever you do.

 

[synthetek]

Just curious but how much did they charge. It's not the elbow I'm worried about its the bottom. What you guys think?

$16 for the flange, $15 for the pipe, $10 weld

 

[jpmxrider489]

Do you guys have pics of what you did?

 

[ETS Michael]

We never designed the kit to work with a JMF intake manifold. This kit was purchased from someone who had it working on a stock intake manifold it looks like. The only way to get this to work will be cutting and modifying it.

The magnus/jmf intake manifold sit lower and back vs the stock intake manifold.

Thanks,

michael

 

[jpmxrider489]

I hear that you guys make the pipe with the tial flange on the bottom underneath the pipe? I know it hard to tell by the pictures, but how old is this kit? I dont see that you sell it like this.

Ok I figured out how to get the pipe to work but the bov would be by the throttle body elbow and the sd bung is after the bov (closer to the intercooler). Does the sd bung have to be before the bov by the elbow or doesnt it matter? I have the plug and play sd harness if that changes anything.

 

[JwpRider]

We never designed the kit to work with a JMF intake manifold. This kit was purchased from someone who had it working on a stock intake manifold it looks like. The only way to get this to work will be cutting and modifying it.

The magnus/jmf intake manifold sit lower and back vs the stock intake manifold.

Thanks,

michael

Thank Michael,
We have been researching for pics of this 2G ETS kit and can only find a one that ETS (Tom) posted, one pic of a kit with Yellow piping, it had a three-piece UICP. The kit that JpmxRider is installing has an elbow, then one long UICP (Tial flange) that connects to the lower pipe that goes into the core. Did not find any install pics on your site.

Can you help? Do you have pics (or links) to an installed Tial-flanged 2G Kit?

I agree that the JMF Intake is lower and sits back from stock, but it seems the ETS Piping is about 4 inches 'too long"?? Can you confirm if the BOV Flange is to be on the "bottom" of the UICP...next to the fuse box? (It seems the only way it gets close to fitting is using/cutting 3" off a stock 2G elbow, and turning the BOV pipe so the flange is turned toward the fuse box (so it is on the 'side' of the pipe).
Any help would be appriciated! Pics of this kit installed would be great! We could figure out what to do from there...

 

[dexterholland04]

If the piping is too long, CUT IT! I had to make a good deal of modifications to my FMIC piping to get it to fit on my Magnus manifold. This is the fun part about DSMs, figuring out how to get all your parts to work in concert together. Worst comes to worst, get a tape measure and figure out the lengths of tubing and the bends needed to solve your problem. Bring the tubing/bends/measurements to a welder and have them fabricate a new cold-side piping setup. Simple.

 

[burkgonzo]

This just looks like your going to need to custom make parts or just go back to a stock manifold.

 

[Sp1kE]

If the piping is too long, CUT IT! I had to make a good deal of modifications to my FMIC piping to get it to fit on my Magnus manifold. This is the fun part about DSMs, figuring out how to get all your parts to work in concert together. Worst comes to worst, get a tape measure and figure out the lengths of tubing and the bends needed to solve your problem. Bring the tubing/bends/measurements to a welder and have them fabricate a new cold-side piping setup. Simple.

+1

You have no idea how many times I have changed/cut/welded my chargepipes. Its all part of modifying a car

 

[goodbuds]

Make a mock up of what you need and take it to someone who can weld aluminum. i just did this on saterday.

 

[2slow4utsi]

Make a mock up of what you need and take it to someone who can weld aluminum. i just did this on saterday.

Yeah I just did the same thing on fryday.

 

[JwpRider]

+1 on the cutting/fab thing! I didn't expect it to fit out of the box...but was hoping that ETS could tell me 'how' it is supposed to be 'assembled' for a stock 2G. For example, "from core, use banana pipe, then a 45 coupler (or 90?), then long UICP with flange on bottom..."

"I found a thread where it is noted that a ETS Tial-flanged UIPC has the flange on the bottom and for a 1G BOV or HKS it is on the top...?!? Who knew that?) Well, if you are trying to get it to fit with the flange on the top (where you would think is right, it is not even close...first pics). I would have thought ETS would have instructions or pics on their site, for reference.

Anyway, thanks for all your suggestions !! I guess it is down to 'see what works' then cut to fit! (I just didn't want to start cutting up a $800+ kit just to find out I had the UICP upside down!

 

[ETS Michael]

These are the only 3 pipes we have for the cold side now.

ETS 95-99 Eclipse 2G DSM Throttle Body Pipe

ETS 95-99 Eclipse 2G DSM BOV Pipe

ETS 95-99 Eclipse 2G DSM Banana Pipe

These 3 are used in conjunction with the factory 2G throttle body elbow.

Here is a link to the 2G install instructions that might help you out.

http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/instructions/2g.pdf

Michael

 

[estoyaqui30]

To the OP, I had the same thing even with the stock intake manifold. Things just didn't line up well. I robbed it together so that I could drive and drove out to JMF and had Jim make whatever changes needed to the pipes. Both the upper and lower were not quite right.

 

[CrawlinZX14]

There is a lot you can do, Cut and "adjust" your pipes is going to be easiest. But make sure you put a bead in the end so it doesnt blow off the coupler. I had a problem with my LICP so I actually went to an exhaust shop and have them bend me a new one for my car. It may be heavier than AL being SS, but bet it doesnt move on me again. I have considered going in and having them make custom bent tubes for my car as well. Since I can get away with a single tube on my cold side since its a short route. My LICP cost me 15 bux for them to make it for me. By the looks of your specific setup, just shorten that pipe there and put a 90* on it. nothing hard to do at all. Infact, put the 90 on the IC and it will make it easier to mark the location of where you should make your cut.

 

[jpmxrider489]

My piping is 2.5 and my IC is 3. I dont want to spend 30+ bucks on a coupler But Im thinking on cutting the pipe. I have a banana pipe and a upper pipe. So would this be a older kit? Ill keep you guys updated. I guess the new kits are the 3 pipes where mine is 2 on the one side. Not sure if this matters but I think its ss and not aluminum because a magnet sticks to this. Does ETS make there pipes out of this. Mike, can you verify that this is a kit you sold in the past?

 

[jpmxrider489]

Well just an update but I did get the piping on without cutting. Just a big of muscle. I want to fix this later or because its a pita to get the upper pipe on and off. But for anyone else using this kit it CAN be done just not easy. ETS mike did you guys make a core like this? I know in the pic its hard to tell but most of your kits have a pipe going out instead of just a coupler like this.

 

[PickleRick]

Well just an update but I did get the piping on without cutting. Just a big of muscle. I want to fix this later or because its a pita to get the upper pipe on and off. But for anyone else using this kit it CAN be done just not easy. ETS mike did you guys make a core like this? I know in the pic its hard to tell but most of your kits have a pipe going out instead of just a coupler like this.

I had this identical issue. I then ditched my Magnus and went with a JMF with the q45 throttle body. This was helpful because the coupler coming off the throttle body was now able to rotate and have more play. In the end I just had custom piping fabricated which made removal and installation MUCH easier.

Maybe using a N/A thorttle body may help?

 

[jpmxrider489]

So its been awhile since my thread. But just an update. For anyone wanting the ets or vrsf fmic, it is possible but with a custom elbow. I had to cut 3 inches off my ets pipe and I had a 90 degree pipe laying around and I just cut to fit.

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