Bigger Turbo? 16g?

[AKeclipseGSX]

Okay, after doing some searching I can't really find exactly what I need so I'm going to have to make a thread.

First of all, I'll start, I have a 2g gsx with an intake and exhaust coming. Catback and I'll buy a downpipe soon after.

But I'm wanting to look into a bigger turbo maybe, there's a small 16g with a manifold and O2 housing on the DSM craigslist, would this be a possibility for my car now? Maybe not this specific one, but I know I need a bigger turbo, and the rest of the exhuast.

What about tuning, fuel system, FMIC, and bov?

Thanks.

 

[Aceman]

Okay, first of all; tuning, fuel system, FMIC, and bov.

Thanks.

I thought I would be clever. Just trying to say that imo you should get the turbo's supporting mods before the turbo.

 

[faudin]

agreed but the turbo the 16g is a good turbo but to utilize it properly follow the mod list. don't just get a bigger turbo on the car.

 

[SlickTalon]

for a 16G, inmy opinion, you should get:

Walbro 255 fuel pump, fuel pump rewire kit, and at least 550cc injectors(for fuel)

Apexi S-AFC 2 or DSMlink(for tuning)

save money and keep the SMIC(until u get a boost controller and turn boost up)

get a hard UICP(many options) and 1G BOV

then get the turbo

 

[92AWDHX40]

I would save the 255 because then you have to get a afpr another 150 bucks. 190 should be good.

 

[Bud92gsx]

for a 16G, inmy opinion, you should get:

Walbro 255 fuel pump, fuel pump rewire kit, and at least 550cc injectors(for fuel)

Apexi S-AFC 2 or DSMlink(for tuning)

save money and keep the SMIC(until u get a boost controller and turn boost up)

get a hard UICP(many options) and 1G BOV

then get the turbo

True..But you can run a 16g on stock boost till you do get the proper mods to turn up the boost..You will notice an increase in power, even on stock boost..

It might be too much for the plastic 2g bov to handle..If you can afford a cheap 1g bov than do it..

 

[SlickTalon]

yea, but who wants to get a bigger turbo and not turn the boost up.and yea i forgot about the little 190.

but support it before you get it. i see too many DSM kids at the track with slow ass 16G setups because they didnt support it for shit.

 

[Bud92gsx]

And the fact that a 16g can make you run hot, even on stock boost..But you should support a 16g, if you plan on staying kinda stock don't mod in the first place..

 

[volcomsnow245]

Get a walbro 255, safc, wide band boost gauge and a front mount. O and a data logger or dsm link.

 

[hypergenesis]

Uhh you guys are all forgetting a boost gauge .

Im about to run a 16g set up currently
New MLS MHI HG
Arp HeadStuds
3"Catback greddy evo2
2.25"-2.5" apexi N1 DP
Apexi FMIC
Greddy type S BoV
Walboro 255lph HP
850cc Injectors
Fuel Lab AFPR
Porting my o2 housing and exhaust manifold.

I think this is a basic setup you dont need that big injectors and from what I know a walboro190 can max out a 16g turbo. Also for exhaust you can just run straight pipe if you really wanted to for a cheaper build.

But like they said if you want it stock keep it stock. Just throwing a turbo on a car without proper support is just going to cause you more headache than its worth. Supporting mods or No go honestly.

 

[92AWDHX40]

I used my logger for a while damn palms had problems stepped up to link. ahh.

 

[AKeclipseGSX]

Okay so the first thing I should get, before anything to increase boost is all the fuel system stuff? Will I notice a power increase with all the fuel mods and stock turbo/boost?

And it's embarassing but I don't get the DSMlink at all, I tried to look up like tutorials on it but no idea.. If someone wants to help me on that too that'd be nice.

So far what i've read, I should

Fuel mods (walbro 255, hard intercooler piping, and bigger injectors)
then get a better bov, greddy type S sounds good if I can recirculate it, and boost controller and boost gauge.
Then it's time for a bigger turbo?

 

[92AWDHX40]

Wideband, 1g bov, 255 afpr, link it takes time tuning isnt easy, there is a forum for link and tonnes of support.

 

[AKeclipseGSX]

Wideband, 1g bov, 255 afpr, link it takes time tuning isnt easy, there is a forum for link and tonnes of support.

Wideband is? And yeah I herad the 1g or the crushed 1g bov is like the best to run, but honestly I do what a little noise outta mine. No i'm not going to go buy a blitz and dump it into the atomosphere, but I'll probably buy a nice recirculated one.

 

[redpit]

i run a crushed 1g bov with no problem on a 6262

 

[907gs-t]

Wideband O2 system that will allow you to monitor the air/fuel ration of your car while driving. This will tell you exactly how rich or how lean the car is running, allowing you to adjust the fuel curve accordingly.

 

[J'sDSM]

Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades: Stage 1 Power - DSMtuners
The tech guide explains it quite nicely 275-300hp

Follow that and you will have a nice safe set up for the power desired with a 16g, otherwise just put a 16g on and use the stock wastegate without mbc and you should be safe with a small 16g

 

[AKeclipseGSX]

How much would a the full fuel system cost me?

Like 550 Injectors, wahlbro 255, and wideband?
Is that all I need for the fuel?

 

[dsm03]

How much would a the full fuel system cost me?

Like 550 Injectors, wahlbro 255, and wideband?
Is that all I need for the fuel?

Something like that, you can get off extremepsi, they have a kit that comes with the pump, injectors and SAFC I believe...


EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts

 

[AKeclipseGSX]

Whoa, that's a cool kit. But is it worth the 640 or whatever to buy it as a kit or would it be cheaper to buy it seperately?

and the A'PEXi AFC Neo, that's for fuel mangement? fuel/air ratio stuff?

Also, off topic, whats a good cheap Boost Gauge? Yeah good and cheap probably don't go together, but any opinions on that?

 

[Boostinsideways]

Apexi Neo is the newest version of the Apexi AFC (Air Fuel Controller). Its similar to the SAFC and SAFC. I am sure you can find the specific difference with a Google search.

 

[AKeclipseGSX]

Okay well I guess it's like 400 new, so I guess that kit is pretty worth it. Might look into that.

 

[907gs-t]

You could run the Walbro 190 instead of the 255 because with the 255 you need a AFPR.

 

[AKeclipseGSX]

You could run the Walbro 190 instead of the 255 because with the 255 you need a AFPR.

Does the apexi neo thing not do that?

 

[Alex7747]

Okay i think you gotta step back for a few and start reading up some more honestly.. What are the plans for the car??