Best Streetable Turbo

[TheObiJuan]

20g's are cheaper, can spool faster and come in many flavors.
the br20g will give almost equal performance to the green imho.

 

[stangtt]

Originally posted by pimpngear
I like the sound of this T-28 Killer...........chances of finding a used T-28 Killer is apperently slim, But i'm open to objections.

Hey pimpin, I will be looking to sell my Killer within the next month or so. I finally have the support for an L2R.

Let me know if you're interested.

 

[Turbonium]

what kinda car at a junk yard do you find a 16g on?? i'd really like to know i'm not saying ur bs'ing but i'd like to know cuz i go to alot of junk yards and would love to find one for myself........

 

[pimpngear]

Originally posted by Turbonium
what kinda car at a junk yard do you find a 16g on?? i'd really like to know i'm not saying ur bs'ing but i'd like to know cuz i go to alot of junk yards and would love to find one for myself........

Try checking out thiss page:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/4g63motorsearch.htm
There are other pages i've seen, I just don't heve them on my Favs...
stangtt.......i'll get back to you very soon.....there might be an issue witht the kid buying the bodykit.

 

[custom240sx]

i have a 17c and i am currently looking for something with a lot more prtential. Dont get something you will want to upgrade 6 months later

 

[JayHass]

Originally posted by DSMJim
We have seen this discussion many times on the 16G and it seems that the small 16G pulls better numbers at the track and the dyno than the big 16G does for whatever reason.

It's very simple. The Big 16g flows more air but it's MUCH less efficient. What that means is the Big16g puts out more heat, so if you don't have a big FMIC to cool it, the added airflow is pretty much a wash vs. the more efficient small 16g.

It has to do with the large wheel in the same housing. My thoughts are to port and extrude hone the crap out of the housing, it should add 5-7 pts of efficiency to the compressor...then you will see that added airflow put to better use.

 

[Gooberlog]

dsmnate,
no affense man but that hot girl that i'm asuming is your girlfriend/wife, make those chrome wheels look uguly. I wouda gone with alloy, would have accented her curves alot better "the car or the girl"
Keep up the good work man.

 

[Batty200]

Yeah Nate you are lucky that you have a girl that can make most of us not even notice there is a car in the pic!!!


Later

 

[Ricardo]

poor choices, but 20g, the bigger the better.

 

[MaineDSM]

If budget and street use is an issue, a T28 is worth looking at.

I didn't want to spend a lot of money on install kits, external wastegates, porting, etc. so I sent my T25 to Forced Performance and got a t28 for $750 bucks.

I installed it in an afternoon. I bought a new stock oil feed line for $20 bucks, but that's all I needed. I've been running this turbo for a couple of years now, and I love it. Very quick spoolup (maybe 300rpm slower than the T25) and holds boost to redline.

If I had a little more money and time, and didn't care about a little more lag, I'd probably go for a 16G. They seem to have better top end.

Any way you go, you can't lose, they are both great street turbos.

 

[Unnatural]

Originally posted by asian312
If your auto I'ld recommend something like the small 16G or even more leaning to the T28 series. I know someone with a Big16G in an auto and it could not launch from stop if it's life depended on it. I'm not sure y to this date but it would take forever to spool. He did have all the supporting mods (fuel, exhaust, injectors, AFC, blah blah blah). This is just a personal account and not saying that it's impossible. But if I had to do a 2G auto AWD I'ld go with the T28 Killer from tchargers. Read up on stangtt post. He's auto as well.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16369

I'm willing to bet that your friends car did not have a higher stall torque convertor, right? If that's the case then your right...it's not going to go anywhere real fast at least from a stop. Throw a higher stall t/c in there and it would glue you to the seat from a stop.
~Brendan

 

[Ryan95tsiAWD]

I like my big16g ....all i have is a 255hp pump and i run at 16psi all day....car reads fine and makes a ton more HP than the old t25.

 

[me612]

i disagree with the Green being the best streetable turbo. I really like the green, but i prefer a full garret turbo over a half garret half mitsu hybrid. I'm not exactly sure the price of em but im pretty sure they are over a thousand bucks. And plus you will have to purchase an ext. wastegate. I chose to get a FULL GARRET setup for 1500 bux. comes with new manifold, t3/t4 50-trim turbo, new o2 housing and ex. dump, ext. wastegate, and all lines and bolts needed to hook it up. Prolly is edning up being cheaper then the green plus i get a new manifold and o2 housing and new oil lines. I got the big16g too but just like eveyone told me, i was happy at first but now i want to go faster. I know your not looking to spend like 1500 bux but i just thought i'd respond to whole green being the best post. Get what you want but just so you know, it seems most people who settle for a 16g seem to regret not buying a bigger one. good luck tho, later

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

Hmmmm I have been reading all the threads and listening. I think I will go with the big t28 killer for my car. It spools a little sloer than the t25 holds boost and uses a bigger comp housing. I know I will get flammed for having this turbo cause of fwd, too small. But I have the t25 and I seem to do fine with the quick spool, and I think I will like keeping my excellent low end torque and being able to run 12s for my street cruiser....let the flaming begin

 

[me612]

hope it works good far ya man, but im warning you, in 5 months when you wanna go even faster you're gunna wish you had got something bigger. But everyone goes through the same thing. Including me, i had t25, 14b, big16g, and now a full garret kit will be installed soon as i get outta kuwait. Good luck tho man, you still will be happy with that turbo, and you'll realise once you have that one, just how crappy the t25 is.

 

[herostar]

I love my big28, and I'm sure when I get a FMIC and fuel stuff it'll be all I need :crosses fingers, but secretly hopes for a giant turbo:

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

The only reason I want the big t28 killer is: 1 better than t25 2 I can keep my low end torque 3 spools slower than the t25 and about the same as the big 16g(so Ive heard). But most of all...Im not looking for huge hp Im looking for 12s(mabey and a good daily driver/ cruiser with the same charateristics as my gst has now, just better.

Oh yeah I know what your talking about wanting the bigger turbo and all. I just figured with all the supporting mods and more plus the t28 killer would be nice. I was thinking 20g but as of a week ago I changed to cruising over drag strip(although still seeking 12s) and going all out, but I substituted the 20g and left everything else. I hope I get what Im looking for with my choice, and good luck

 

[Spinall4]

I will give my personal opinon coming from a guy with an a/t and a AGP big28. If Your not planning on upgrading the t/c then you may have some problems launching from a stop- somtimes it can take me 10-15 seconds of powerbreaking to get my car up to 3500 rpms on the stock converter, wich is bad. I went to the track the other night and pulled 2.8 sec 60' times when I know my car is capable of better(1.81 via hks turbo timer) but I just could not get it to build any boost that the line for me- plus if you pull away from a stop light with no launch it takes a while to get some boost.

I love my agp t-28, and will be a coustomer of theres for life beacuse of there good coustmer service, and think thats its the only way to go if your not going to up grade your t/c.

 

[DSSA]

Originally posted by Tattooedeclipse
the best street turbo is a fp green model .. period ... is spools fast as hell for a turbo with a 50 trim and it has a frank 7 exaust side so its the s**t..... i have mine at 18lbs right now and im making about 360hp at the wheels with out the base timing tuned.... tuned off an afc also.... so mop ass on the street with only 18lbs then put some c16 in and turn it up to 30lbs and run 100 mph passes in the 1/8 th you cant beat this turbo ...... but it cost about 1500 bucks for everything turbo and lines so ....

Not that the Green isn't a decent turbo, but this guy seriously has me laughing my ass off. "100 mph in the 1/8th", "Best Street turbo period"..yadda, yadda...

 

[Blitz]

Originally posted by DSSA


Not that the Green isn't a decent turbo, but this guy seriously has me laughing my ass off. "100 mph in the 1/8th", "Best Street turbo period"..yadda, yadda...

What's even funnier is how he's going the turn the boost up to 30psi when the green is not efficient a that boost level. His car must be a tin can if he thinks going to run 100 mph in the 1/8th mile.

 

[BlackViper]

I agree with 98TsiAWD the L1R is an all ball bearing turbo that will support around 400 HP and isn't that much of a 1/4 mile turbo like the bigger L2R and L3R turbos. I'm thinkning about it, but tis $1300 not to mention coutless wades of cash fo support mods Good Luck finding one pimpngear. Like the Talon too.




BlackViper

 

[MaineDSM]

Can a moderator delete this review? The kid is claiming 14hp to the wheels OVER the K&N, which is obviously impossible. In fact the link that was just posted shows almost every aftermarket filter flows the same, with the only diff. being filtering ability, which the Blitz SUCKS at.

I just hate to see such poor wrong info spread by a DSM'er.

 

[andol469]

Originally posted by MaineDSM
Can a moderator delete this review? The kid is claiming 14hp to the wheels OVER the K&N, which is obviously impossible. In fact the link that was just posted shows almost every aftermarket filter flows the same, with the only diff. being filtering ability, which the Blitz SUCKS at.

I just hate to see such poor wrong info spread by a DSM'er.

Are you talking about the guy who was saying he gained 17 hp at the wheels by switching to a Blitz filter? :laugh: I just read that post on DSMtalk. Good stuff

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[Mitsu88_4g63T]

Originally posted by DSMJim
We have seen this discussion many times on the 16G and it seems that the small 16G pulls better numbers at the track and the dyno than the big 16G does for whatever reason.

you have to look at the setup. if you have very little work done to your car performance wise and you slap on a small vs a big 16... most likely there isn't a doubt the small 16g will pull better #'s. ( Also were ya getting these #'s is it fwd or awd? does the car have suspension mods or anything else )

Spool time is less and over all for the small, its ranged for low speeds. The big can contest a little more with higher rpms and mph. Moreover the big 16g responds way better to mods like a full exhaust and more fuel.... get a FMIC on their with some good air intake mods. However don't they both.

All in all the big 16 just carries longer but if your job is to tune your car a little and run like mid to low 13's consistently.... get a small. ( look at slow boy racings 91 Talon, they have a small 16... very nice times from that ) I really like them both, but IMHO just go with a Super 20g. Sure not really streetable... but there is a huge fun factor above and beyond the 4500 RPM range


anyways....

 

[DSMSpyder99]

i would have to go with the any 16G good spool and still packs a punch overall IMHO i would go with a 16G but like other ppl say it depends on what u think streetable is