Be honest guys...

[Spaniel1287]

AIght I got my 1995 Talon TSI FWD Automatic with 98,000 miles. Its in really good condition and runs really good. It is an automatic and it is FWD. Its also the cleanest DSM ive ever seen. I got the money to do some major upgrades. Is it worth putting the money into the mods to a FWD Automatic turbo? I got the money right now for:

Intake
Full 3" Exhaust
Upper IC Pipe
1g BOV
MBC
Boost Guage
Guage Pod

With those upgrades would my time in 1/4 improve that much? Be honest cuz i dont want to waste my money on upgrades and get nothing out of it. Thanks for the advice?

 

[Gigaah]

I couldn't spend money trying to go faster in the 1/4 mile with a FWD Automatic. Thats me though.

 

[leakyfaucet]

Intake
Full 3" Exhaust
Upper IC Pipe
1g BOV
MBC
Boost Guage
Guage Pod

I don't consider those major upgrades. They wouldn't make you very fast at all. You could do every upgrade in the world and at the end of the day you'd still have a T25 and be making no power. Trade the upper IC pipe and full 3" exhaust for a bigger used turbo and a fuel pump and you'll actually start making power.

 

[Attack Eagle]

he needs the uip... it's a 2g.

 

[Templisk]

There are some issues to work around, and it's all preference. FWD will have traction issues which you can work on by adjusting spring rates, stickier tires (and keeping those tires warm)

Automatic is easier to drive for anyone, and if you choose to use nitrous ever, those companies recommend it for an automatic transmission application.

There are transmission upgrades you can make to shift faster, so you will shift almost as fast as a manual (or faster, in comparison to a new driver using manual) and you'll never miss a shift.

The FWD will also be more fun to play around with from a roll (less drivetrain loss, so more power where traction isn't needed) and probably get better gas mileage if you're worried (because of the lower drivetrain loss)

In the end it's your decision, some people swear by AWD period, others say manual period. You're the one driving it, you need to be happy with it.

 

[speedy13]

I agree with TEMPLISK.It really is preference.Ive ridden in dsms with and without modded at's and once it's modded is a real big improvement over stock,especially off the line,infact i would dare to say that it shifts better than your avarage dragger.

 

[Templisk]

btw the mods he listed are actually a pretty good place to start, though I'd highly suggest wheels and tires be one of the first things ever done to a car, followed by lowering it.

And just because you throw on a huge turbo doesn't mean you'll make any power, do you have any idea how hard it would be to spool a large turbo with almost stock componenets? I personally think it's best to have the fastest spooling turbo in it's power class. What's the use of the power if you never get to it? Sure you can sit on a dyno for an hour and say hey look at my max power, but what good is it at the track?

 

[HighPsi92GST]

AIght I got my 1995 Talon TSI FWD Automatic with 98,000 miles. Its in really good condition and runs really good. It is an automatic and it is FWD. Its also the cleanest DSM ive ever seen. I got the money to do some major upgrades. Is it worth putting the money into the mods to a FWD Automatic turbo? I got the money right now for:

Intake
Full 3" Exhaust
Upper IC Pipe
1g BOV
MBC
Boost Guage
Guage Pod

With those upgrades would my time in 1/4 improve that much? Be honest cuz i dont want to waste my money on upgrades and get nothing out of it. Thanks for the advice?

since i have the same car as you (95 tsi fwd auto but with 92k not that it matters) i will give my input. this car is my daily driver, but wanted a little more power from it.
First mod i did to this COMPLETELY stock car was a K&N fipk. I didnt even replace the stock intake tube but plan to eventually. felt alittle more pull, and of course now can hear the turbo really well.
second I put in a boost controller and boost gauge with an A pillar pod. no real gains here since i kept the boost at stock levels
third i put on an upper ic pipe and 1g bov, and turned up the boost a little. the car definilty feels quicker now then it did before and im happy with the gain i got, although not huge. no going to complain about it.
thats where i left off. I plan on eventually getting a larger exhaust for the car, for now though im just running a magnaflow straight through muffler on my stock exhaust (had it laying around so figured why not put it on)

so I say go for it. You will feel gains, and the exhaust will of course help you feel those gains. I plan on only going 2.5 inch, but i also plan on never going bigger then a 14b turbo on the car.

good luck.

 

[RBurroughs]

I don't consider those major upgrades. They wouldn't make you very fast at all. You could do every upgrade in the world and at the end of the day you'd still have a T25 and be making no power. Trade the upper IC pipe and full 3" exhaust for a bigger used turbo and a fuel pump and you'll actually start making power.

with a 3"turbo back exhaust and a boost controller turned up to 16, u will defiantly feel a big difference

 

[97GS-TSpyder]

with thosemods, your goign to need a valve body and shift kit.
go to www.importperformancetransmissions.com and check out their stuff.

your going top have to upgrade some things eithe rnow or later

 

[pimpizzy]

AIght I got my 1995 Talon TSI FWD Automatic with 98,000 miles. Its in really good condition and runs really good. It is an automatic and it is FWD. Its also the cleanest DSM ive ever seen. I got the money to do some major upgrades. Is it worth putting the money into the mods to a FWD Automatic turbo? I got the money right now for:

Intake
Full 3" Exhaust
Upper IC Pipe
1g BOV
MBC
Boost Guage
Guage Pod

With those upgrades would my time in 1/4 improve that much? Be honest cuz i dont want to waste my money on upgrades and get nothing out of it. Thanks for the advice?

hey... im kinda of in the same position as u in that we both have FWD autos (TSi urs, GST mine) and im gonna be putting my money into it making it faster... but thats me, thats wat i wanna do... good luck in watever u do

 

[Attack Eagle]

you can save the money on the intake...

you will be much happier getting a really good filter like an FIPK and the car will be easier to work on with the flexi neck... + the hard intakes don't usually work with the FIPK. Just modify it with the dump tube mod and it will be all you need until you are knocking on 300 -400 whp and a much bigger turbo

the only reason for the hard pipes on stock tubo cars is to "hear" the bov better, and the dump tube will do most of that for you.

 

[bodcus]

There are some issues to work around, and it's all preference. FWD will have traction issues which you can work on by adjusting spring rates, stickier tires (and keeping those tires warm)

Automatic is easier to drive for anyone, and if you choose to use nitrous ever, those companies recommend it for an automatic transmission application.

There are transmission upgrades you can make to shift faster, so you will shift almost as fast as a manual (or faster, in comparison to a new driver using manual) and you'll never miss a shift.

The FWD will also be more fun to play around with from a roll (less drivetrain loss, so more power where traction isn't needed) and probably get better gas mileage if you're worried (because of the lower drivetrain loss)

In the end it's your decision, some people swear by AWD period, others say manual period. You're the one driving it, you need to be happy with it.

bravo!!!!!!

 

[Zmann42087]

Sounds like you have a good idea for some base mods. In my mind, they ARE major upgrades.

As to whether it is worth it or not, you have got to ask yourself, "What do I want to get out of this project car?" If you want this car to be a fun zip-around town daily driver (nothing wrong with that!) then go ahead with the auto tranny, but if you plan to haul this car to the strip every weekend you might want to think about getting the 5spd.

Now you mentioned cutting time off your 1/4 mile, so it sounds like you do plan to drag a little...... Wait, I just realized I kinda said "You can't drag with an automatic" in the last paragraph. I didn't mean it like that. You can drag race with an auto. But if you plan do some serious drag racing-like run 11's and have 350hp-then I highly suggest you get a 5spd manual.

Good Luck!

 

[Zmann42087]

There are some issues to work around, and it's all preference. FWD will have traction issues which you can work on by adjusting spring rates, stickier tires (and keeping those tires warm)

I don't know for sure, but wouldn't an LSD (limited slip differential) go in that help category as well?

 

[asexton6969]

GO FOR IT. Its always sweet to see a fast automatic turbo car. All my DSM buddies have 5 spds and yes they give me shit but when it comes to long trips or just driving around the city they wish they had an auto sometimes. Sometimes i wish i had a 5 spd too. But not like if you ever get sick of it that you cant just swap out the tranny. Dude go for it. Im auto too and leaving the line with full boost is quite exhilirating. Plus i never miss a shift or bog my car. Your list is perfect for the beginning. Do the mods and get back to us. I or the rest of us will help you decide what to do after that. GOOD LUCK! Remember auto's rule.

 

[talondude4]

you can save the money on the intake...

you will be much happier getting a really good filter like an FIPK and the car will be easier to work on with the flexi neck... + the hard intakes don't usually work with the FIPK. Just modify it with the dump tube mod and it will be all you need until you are knocking on 300 -400 whp and a much bigger turbo

the only reason for the hard pipes on stock tubo cars is to "hear" the bov better, and the dump tube will do most of that for you.

tubo make the correction "turbo"

i have an auto tsi awd and it launches hard when doing a brake boost launch. yes i know its not good for the tranny but hey its fun. what are you looking for for power range any way. if you plan on 350hp your going to need a logger.
since it is automatic to you are going to need bigger injectors because yours are 390cc instead of 450cc which come with a manual car. also cams are smaller too. then when you upgrade the injectors you are going to need a manual ecu or a gm maf.
doing just the injector switch will help a lot. you will notice a huge differance.
i would suggest the gm maf unless your 2g maf will do the job im not to sure about the 2g maf.

 

[miteclipsers95]

that will give a few more hp i would save my money and not buy the guage pod but thats up up to you , im staying n/t for now and doing low budget upgrades im putting and msd coilpack and wires on my car and iridium sparkplugs .

 

[Attack Eagle]

how about you give me that money instead of wasting it...



are you sure 2g autos have smaller 390s? I was thinking that was only 1g autos that came with the downgraded turbo and injectors and all 2gs have the t25 and 450s

 

[BlandAnalogy]

im certainly no expert but i wouldnt setup an automatic. that is unless you wanna go in and change shift points and deal with all that crap. it still wont be that good. one thing that is good with automatics is you can easily keep up that precious boost pressure. although you shouldnt need that if you're a good driver. anyways i prolly didnt help much but i tried. take it easy

 

[HighPsi92GST]

how about you give me that money instead of wasting it...



are you sure 2g autos have smaller 390s? I was thinking that was only 1g autos that came with the downgraded turbo and injectors and all 2gs have the t25 and 450s

Whoever said they are 390's is wrong.

 

[Scrymerr]

I have nothing against AT, but I would not mod an AT FWD. AT AWD would be sweet- brake boosting and very consistant launches.

 

[talondude4]

Whoever said they are 390's is wrong.

sorry my bad there are 390cc in the 1gs i was just explaining that there are upgrades that could be taken just to get the car so its not de tuned

 

[xarnyz]

I have nothing against AT, but I would not mod an AT FWD. AT AWD would be sweet- brake boosting and very consistant launches.

Yeah, gsx awd Automatic baby! I plan on modding her good once I figure out what the hell the previous owner did to the engine. After seeing track times given by automatic guys I decided to take the auto. When you really think about it, there are a lot of advantages. Consistent times (depending on how much your spin your wheels i suppose), comfortable drives, not letting go of boost, oh and smoking a guy with a stick version, that would be fun wouldnt it?

Anyway dude, I say mod the sh*t out of that FWD auto. You cant always wait for something that you feel will be better, because there well ALWAYS something better, until you mod a car and get bonded and attached to it. Then better = upgrade.

mod it dude!

 

[fatafall]

Leakyfaucet said Spaniel would still be stuck with T25, but didnt the 2g AT come with 13b turbo, even smaller than the T25? Correct me if I am wrong here. Thanks.