Be honest guys...

[Spaniel1287]

AIght I got my 1995 Talon TSI FWD Automatic with 98,000 miles. Its in really good condition and runs really good. It is an automatic and it is FWD. Its also the cleanest DSM ive ever seen. I got the money to do some major upgrades. Is it worth putting the money into the mods to a FWD Automatic turbo? I got the money right now for:

Intake
Full 3" Exhaust
Upper IC Pipe
1g BOV
MBC
Boost Guage
Guage Pod

With those upgrades would my time in 1/4 improve that much? Be honest cuz i dont want to waste my money on upgrades and get nothing out of it. Thanks for the advice?

 

[Gleason]

Leakyfaucet said Spaniel would still be stuck with T25, but didnt the 2g AT come with 13b turbo, even smaller than the T25? Correct me if I am wrong here. Thanks.

nope.

With 2gs there were no differences between A/T and 5speed, unlike the 1g A/Ts that had different turbos and injectors.

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

there is a TON of misinformation in this thread, as stated above there are no diferences in 2g at versus manual. not even the cams as someone stated above. someone also sid something about changing the shift points...the only thing that limits you on winding out the rpms is the rev limiter! you can shift out just as late with the auto as you can a manual. As suggested above a shift kit and end clutch kit from ipt would be highly suggested, speed up the shifts so they are less laggy and the end clutch kit will really help you to keep from frying your stock end clutches when you stall it up for a good launch. I would def. keep the car, hard to find a nice clean dsm these days and the auto fwd is fine. I love my auto, though its awd, but those traction problems can be fixed with some sticky tires or even slicks. Also, whoever stated above that you cant do 350 hp or 11's on an auto 2g, there are a lot of people with over 350 hp and many running 11's and better, and even atleast 1 single digit one i know of. Please do not bash the auto unless you have experience with one.

 

[talondude4]

Leakyfaucet said Spaniel would still be stuck with T25, but didnt the 2g AT come with 13b turbo, even smaller than the T25? Correct me if I am wrong here. Thanks.

for one the 13g is bigger then the t25 by a hair. and i believe the 2gs all came with t25.i almost for sure they do. (2g auto cars that is)

 

[talondude4]

there is a TON of misinformation in this thread, as stated above there are no diferences in 2g at versus manual. not even the cams as someone stated above. someone also sid something about changing the shift points...the only thing that limits you on winding out the rpms is the rev limiter! you can shift out just as late with the auto as you can a manual. As suggested above a shift kit and end clutch kit from ipt would be highly suggested, speed up the shifts so they are less laggy and the end clutch kit will really help you to keep from frying your stock end clutches when you stall it up for a good launch. I would def. keep the car, hard to find a nice clean dsm these days and the auto fwd is fine. I love my auto, though its awd, but those traction problems can be fixed with some sticky tires or even slicks. Also, whoever stated above that you cant do 350 hp or 11's on an auto 2g, there are a lot of people with over 350 hp and many running 11's and better, and even atleast 1 single digit one i know of. Please do not bash the auto unless you have experience with one.

the 1gs were the ones with smaller cams ill be more specific next time. yes i know auto can be fast http://www.atdsm.com/ nothing like a boost launch with an auto awd

 

[fatafall]

Talondude, I said 13b in my post, not 13g. I was corrected in a thread awhile back when I said all 2g cars used the T25. Defient let me know that some of the 2g autos came with a smaller turbine, this I assumed to be the 13b turbo. Thread.

 

[pr0]

Autos suck, I would know, I have one. There is so much power loss to the wheels its crazy... If you work on the tranny though, it can be a beast. Hopefully I will have enough some day to come back to my car.

 

[Attack Eagle]

then defiant's wrong in this case.


all 2g turbos used the t25 and 450 injectors... auto or manual

1gs used a 13b and smaller injectors on tha auto (390's?)
and a 14b and 450's on the manual

 

[Attack Eagle]

sorry my bad there are 390cc in the 1gs i was just explaining that there are upgrades that could be taken just to get the car so its not de tuned

No you were spouting off stuff you have read about (probably here), and it is irrelevant to the car in question since what you are talking about is a 1g (and what you own also) and not a 2g... 2g autos are not detuned.

RULE #3
No Guesses - if you don't know for a fact, don't reply - don't spread misinformation (no "I think" or "I guess" or "I've heard").

Except I'd rather you said "I read or I heard" instead of posing as knowledgable about a 2g auto.

your posts are why this thread should be deleted so as not to contaminate the forums and archives with complete and utter horse poopey. An ENTIRE PAGE had to be devoted to debunking your misinfo...

I'm not mad at you and I am sure you were trying to be helpful, but I don't let my 2 year old play with the torch or saw when I am working either. He's more of a hindrance than a help, despite his best intentions and that is what your posts did here.
Learn the lesson and move on...

 

[BiGGinZ]

If you want your car to be faster, mod it. Just cause you have an auto doesnt mean mods don't work. At the track, auto's rule the world. Have you ever seen a stalled old school camaro launch, it is a beautiful thing. But obviously you didnt get your car for the strip because of the fwd. I personally dont like the idea of an auto fwd car since they are lighter then the awd and better from a roll, so the auto hurts you there. But if you want to mod it, mod it they can be made fast too.

BiGGinZ

 

[talondude4]

wow i was talking about 1gs and stuff you can do to them. and none of my info was off by that much. every thing i said was correct for 1gs. as for the 2gs i have seen a fast auto so its not slow. just upgrade to a t28 and you will notice a diff.

next time send me a private messege and not make such an a** out of me.

not my fault some people take things to serously and make a big deal out of things.

 

[Attack Eagle]

wow i was talking about 1gs and stuff you can do to them. and none of my info was off by that much. every thing i said was correct for 1gs. as for the 2gs i have seen a fast auto so its not slow. just upgrade to a t28 and you will notice a diff.

next time send me a private messege and not make such an a** out of me.

not my fault some people take things to serously and make a big deal out of things.

Next time read what kind of car it is before you start spouting off about it in public. Newbies read these threads.

 

[theebluecrx]

Ive owned both a 1g fwd auto and a 1g awd auto which were both modded.Auto's are very consistent in roll races and are pretty fast running right.My fwd was my first dsm and sadly i wrecked it.

 

[jimmycnote]

I own a 98 GSX A/T. It definitely comes stock with a T25 and 450 injectors and I couldn't agree more with Attack Eagle about correct info!

I regress.

My car has mostly supporting mods Intake, upper and lower I/C piping w/greddy type S, turbo back 3" SS exhaust, MBC (16lbs), Walboro 255Hp pump also gauges and timer; it's pretty damn fast for a daily driver and my grandmother could drive it!

I'd say go for it, I did and I'm real happy.

p.s. I work for mitsu

 

[tsieagletalon]

shift kit 2 word to remember

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

Yeah, I love mine too, and another thing to think about is that if you ever break your hand or have to have surgery like i did about a month ago, you will still be able to drive without having to reach across with your right hand. I had surgery a few weeks ago and so now I wont be able to drive a stick for about 6 months so i gotta sell my 6 speed track ed. 350z, daytona blue to match the talon and all

 

[jimmycnote]

Keep in mind, automatics have come a long way! These aren't the tranies that you had on your caprice classic that you learned to drive on (I did, he he). A lot heavy machinery like large dump trucks you would see at quarry/gravel-pits are autos. They aren't bad there just different. If it's good enough for a combat weight Hum-Vee it's good enough for me.

John at IPT is a giant resource. If you have any questions you should give him a call. He'll definitely point you in the right direction.

 

[jimmycnote]

Look, I know were not talking about heavy machinery, combat vehicles or station wagons but I was just making a point...

Auto's aren't what they used to be.

 

[Romancer]

I, myself, was lucky enough too find a completely stock DSM(save the FIPK filter) and it was an AWD auto. Do what you want man, auto isnt bad at all. Once you get a shift kit, end clutches, and Torque Converter..you will be a happy man. The only problem is that that= a lot of money. Another thing is that auto is an absolute slug without brake boosting. So you might want to get an endclutch soon so you dont get addicted to brake boosting and burn out the stock clutches.

 

[runawayimport]

ok i dont think i would put the time and the money into a turbo automatic........i LOVE the manuals soo much more fun to drive...if i was you i would keep the money and sell that car...and find a good fwd turbo Manual tranny.....and then start to build the car from there....

 

[jimmycnote]

I suppose it also depends on how much you drive. I drive almost 800 miles a week between Upstate New York, Boston, New York metro area including New Jersy (Hoboken etc.). For example, in the last 3 days I drove 750! I'm happy with my auto tranny. I'd probably lose my mind if it were a manual.

All of our input is well and good, but in the end it all depends on how you are going to drive and what your plans are.

 

[projctWraith]

Your car is a good platform for performance. Try to get a 16g turbo kit with intercooler. It will cost around 3k. You'll like the car a lot but I don't see low 10's in youre future for less than 5k.